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12 motorists caught in Forest speed trap

MOTORISTS have been rapped for ignoring speed limits after police set up a camera checkpoint in the New Forest.

Officers caught 12 motorists on the B3078 between Cadnam and Fordingbridge in just over two hours yesterday.

The offenders - all of them New Forest residents - were driving between 51mph and 62 mph despite a massive campaign to restrict cars to 40.

New Forest District Chief Inspector Gary Cooper said: "This is an ongoing campaign to raise awareness and to educate motorists that the speed limit is in place not just to protect the animals, but also them and their passengers.

"Although the number of deaths and injuries to roaming animals has fallen, it is disappointing to find that local motorists are still exceeding the speed limit.

"Even more disconcerting was the fact that one motorist when questioned could see nothing wrong with driving at close to 60mph."

In the eight week period since the last Stay under 40' operation, three road traffic incidents have been reported on New Forest roads involving animals. One of those resulted in an animal death.

It is a significant improvement from the beginning of the year when six animals died in six separate incidents during a five week period.

But despite the safety drive, police have warned motorists that random speed checks will continue in the coming months.

Hampshire Constabulary, Country Watch Sergeant, Louise Hubble said: "We appear to be getting our message through to motorists, but, there is a need to continue this campaign as this operation clearly highlights.

"We will continue to closely monitor the situation and will carry out additional speed checks at various locations to assist in reducing the number of incidents on New Forest roads."

8:11pm Thursday 15th May 2008

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Posted by: Fred on 8:25pm Thu 15 May 08
"The offenders - all of them New Forest residents"

And

"We appear to be getting our message through to motorists, but, there is a need to continue this campaign as this operation clearly highlights."

Interesting interpretation of the results.
Posted by: Adrian Smith on 8:40pm Thu 15 May 08
"We will continue to closely monitor the situation and will carry out additional speed checks at various locations to assist in reducing the number of incidents on New Forest roads."

No - just pitch up at the same spot seven days in a row and see what happens. At least someone will get twelve points that week.
Posted by: gorf, soton on 9:16pm Thu 15 May 08
they wont learn untill they get a cow through the windscreen!!
Posted by: Mad Max, Thunderdome on 11:39pm Thu 15 May 08
gorf wrote:
they wont learn untill they get a cow through the windscreen!!
maybe the police should give up on the speed trap and just put a dead cow on some wheels and just push it in front of the speeding cars....
Posted by: Duh, Southampton on 1:01am Fri 16 May 08
Cars ar still the easiest target, why not go aftr somthing a bit more difficult to catch. Whilst the Police were there trapping easy prey 10 burglaries were going on.

Same old story, go for the easy pickings.
Anything for good statistics these days.
Posted by: Speedy, over here on 7:02am Fri 16 May 08
Fence the forest off, so then the roads can be put back to the national speed limit, like they were in the good old days. Everybody will happy. No animal deaths, no unhappy drivers.
Posted by: Mike, Soton on 7:32am Fri 16 May 08
Duh wrote:
Cars ar still the easiest target, why not go aftr somthing a bit more difficult to catch. Whilst the Police were there trapping easy prey 10 burglaries were going on.

Same old story, go for the easy pickings.
Anything for good statistics these days.
I can think of no better use of limited police resources than to target motorists who ignore the law by a large margin.

I wonder how you would react to a knock on the door from the police today to tell you that your nearest and dearest has been killed in a crash caused by a speeding driver. Is is not right to make motorists - and I have held a licence for more than 40 years - obey the law?

The only pity is that there are not more police to carry out random speed checks.

Goods are replaceable (ie the proceeds of burglaries), human lives are not.
Posted by: jo, So'ton on 8:04am Fri 16 May 08
Well said mike I entirely agree, and its not just the lives of humans, the scum on this planet that speed everywhere need to learn to respect animals more, they are beautiful living, breathing creatures and the human race really should have more respect for them.
Posted by: Woodlander, Pig Bush on 9:15am Fri 16 May 08
Mike wrote:
Duh wrote: Cars ar still the easiest target, why not go aftr somthing a bit more difficult to catch. Whilst the Police were there trapping easy prey 10 burglaries were going on. Same old story, go for the easy pickings. Anything for good statistics these days.
I can think of no better use of limited police resources than to target motorists who ignore the law by a large margin. I wonder how you would react to a knock on the door from the police today to tell you that your nearest and dearest has been killed in a crash caused by a speeding driver. Is is not right to make motorists - and I have held a licence for more than 40 years - obey the law? The only pity is that there are not more police to carry out random speed checks. Goods are replaceable (ie the proceeds of burglaries), human lives are not.
Spot on, Mike. It is an entirely concious decision to exceed a speed limit unless driving without due care and attention or under the influence of . To those that argue that the road and conditions make it safe to exceed the limit what qualifies them to make that judgement? Road agencies and the Police think long and hard before imposing speed limits; they don't do it for fun.

For those who habitually break the limit try travelling your route without exceeding the posted speed restriction and see how little difference it makes to your total journey time and as a bonus you'll see improvements in your fuel consumption.

Posted by: Oh No! on 9:27am Fri 16 May 08
jo wrote:
Well said mike I entirely agree, and its not just the lives of humans, the scum on this planet that speed everywhere need to learn to respect animals more, they are beautiful living, breathing creatures and the human race really should have more respect for them.
Bl**dy tasty too.
Posted by: Christoff on 9:47am Fri 16 May 08
The offenders - all of them New Forest residents


I will remember this story the next time I hear a New Forest resident whinging about people speeding down their roads and putting the lives of animals and people in danger....seems the residents feel they are somewhat exempt from the rules?

Bloody locals!
Posted by: Add on 9:53am Fri 16 May 08
Woodlander wrote:
Mike wrote:
Duh wrote: Cars ar still the easiest target, why not go aftr somthing a bit more difficult to catch. Whilst the Police were there trapping easy prey 10 burglaries were going on. Same old story, go for the easy pickings. Anything for good statistics these days.
I can think of no better use of limited police resources than to target motorists who ignore the law by a large margin. I wonder how you would react to a knock on the door from the police today to tell you that your nearest and dearest has been killed in a crash caused by a speeding driver. Is is not right to make motorists - and I have held a licence for more than 40 years - obey the law? The only pity is that there are not more police to carry out random speed checks. Goods are replaceable (ie the proceeds of burglaries), human lives are not.
Spot on, Mike. It is an entirely concious decision to exceed a speed limit unless driving without due care and attention or under the influence of . To those that argue that the road and conditions make it safe to exceed the limit what qualifies them to make that judgement? Road agencies and the Police think long and hard before imposing speed limits; they don't do it for fun. For those who habitually break the limit try travelling your route without exceeding the posted speed restriction and see how little difference it makes to your total journey time and as a bonus you'll see improvements in your fuel consumption.
50 miles per hour = 50 miles.
25 miles per hour = 25 miles.
DO THE MATHS Woodlander.
Posted by: up up and, away on 11:09am Fri 16 May 08
Add wrote:
Woodlander wrote:
Mike wrote:
Duh wrote: Cars ar still the easiest target, why not go aftr somthing a bit more difficult to catch. Whilst the Police were there trapping easy prey 10 burglaries were going on. Same old story, go for the easy pickings. Anything for good statistics these days.
I can think of no better use of limited police resources than to target motorists who ignore the law by a large margin. I wonder how you would react to a knock on the door from the police today to tell you that your nearest and dearest has been killed in a crash caused by a speeding driver. Is is not right to make motorists - and I have held a licence for more than 40 years - obey the law? The only pity is that there are not more police to carry out random speed checks. Goods are replaceable (ie the proceeds of burglaries), human lives are not.
Spot on, Mike. It is an entirely concious decision to exceed a speed limit unless driving without due care and attention or under the influence of . To those that argue that the road and conditions make it safe to exceed the limit what qualifies them to make that judgement? Road agencies and the Police think long and hard before imposing speed limits; they don\'t do it for fun. For those who habitually break the limit try travelling your route without exceeding the posted speed restriction and see how little difference it makes to your total journey time and as a bonus you\'ll see improvements in your fuel consumption.
50 miles per hour = 50 miles. 25 miles per hour = 25 miles. DO THE MATHS Woodlander.
Only if they do that speed for the hour, which increases the chance of getting caught should it be over the limit...
Posted by: little jon, little jon on 11:14am Fri 16 May 08
lots of people will disagree with me but i think there is something to be said for the fact that someone who is poodling along at 30 and not paying any attention to what is happening around them, talking, fiddling with radio etc etc is more dangerous than someone who is maybe speeding a little.. 50 is a fairly steady speed and actually keeping alook out for those pesky police or horses that may be hiding around the corner and they normally do hide around the corner (not as they say to make a visible presence to slow traffic but to just catch people creaping over the limit - not the horses of course who are lovely - just not as tasty. ;-) . anyway it doesnt matter to me as i can speed as much as i like and never been cought or had an accident of any description for 10 years, for the simple fact that i have 2 very good eyes in the front of my head and unlike majority of drivers it seems i actually look where im going and even whats happening at the side of the road. i must be a genius. I did say lots of people will disagree. Whether you are driving at 30 or 6o it helps if you concentrate on what you are doing and are not distracted by the skirt in the passenger seat for example,m although she has lovely legs. Drive safe.

P.s i dont drive often in new forest but have i completely missed the cows?? i remember only ever seeing horses wandering in the middle of the road which i had to lean out of the window and give a pat on the backside to shift over ... perhaps i also need to pay more attention and look out for any pigs in the area s well as cows these days.
Now thats a thought thats making me hungry.
Aside from the new forest issue, I drive a BMW so i must be a tw*t but i bet it has better stopping power than those boxes on wheels driving around when the speed limit was introduced and yet the motorway speed limit has never increased? crazy! we have ABS these days for a start.
Love the animals and drive safe, if not, be lucky!
Posted by: Anon, Southampton on 12:38pm Fri 16 May 08
I've been stopped by the cows before, once just outside Fritham and the other time near Minstead.

A whole herd of them. Had to wait for half an hour the first time, hoping one wasn't going to sit on the car.
Posted by: John, Southampton on 2:04pm Fri 16 May 08
Sadly, people will always speed, animals in the forest will always get knocked down. These are just a few of the motorists out there, and there's no guarantee that they will observe the limits. I say crush their vehicles if caught. This might get the message home.
Posted by: George on 2:11pm Fri 16 May 08
Mike wrote:
Duh wrote:
Cars ar still the easiest target, why not go aftr somthing a bit more difficult to catch. Whilst the Police were there trapping easy prey 10 burglaries were going on.

Same old story, go for the easy pickings.
Anything for good statistics these days.
I can think of no better use of limited police resources than to target motorists who ignore the law by a large margin.

I wonder how you would react to a knock on the door from the police today to tell you that your nearest and dearest has been killed in a crash caused by a speeding driver. Is is not right to make motorists - and I have held a licence for more than 40 years - obey the law?

The only pity is that there are not more police to carry out random speed checks.

Goods are replaceable (ie the proceeds of burglaries), human lives are not.
You can't think of a better use of police resources than this? I refer you to the proliferation of reported rapes in the city centre recently

Don't get me wrong, I think the 40mph limit in the Forest is justified and should be enforced. But to say it's the best use of limited police resources is, frankly, idiotic
Posted by: George on 2:19pm Fri 16 May 08
Woodlander wrote:
Mike wrote:
Duh wrote: Cars ar still the easiest target, why not go aftr somthing a bit more difficult to catch. Whilst the Police were there trapping easy prey 10 burglaries were going on. Same old story, go for the easy pickings. Anything for good statistics these days.
I can think of no better use of limited police resources than to target motorists who ignore the law by a large margin. I wonder how you would react to a knock on the door from the police today to tell you that your nearest and dearest has been killed in a crash caused by a speeding driver. Is is not right to make motorists - and I have held a licence for more than 40 years - obey the law? The only pity is that there are not more police to carry out random speed checks. Goods are replaceable (ie the proceeds of burglaries), human lives are not.
Spot on, Mike. It is an entirely concious decision to exceed a speed limit unless driving without due care and attention or under the influence of . To those that argue that the road and conditions make it safe to exceed the limit what qualifies them to make that judgement? Road agencies and the Police think long and hard before imposing speed limits; they don't do it for fun.

For those who habitually break the limit try travelling your route without exceeding the posted speed restriction and see how little difference it makes to your total journey time and as a bonus you'll see improvements in your fuel consumption.

As I said above, I agree fully with the speed limit in the Forest, but I'd just like to point out that, actually, many speed limits are not thought out at all. Cars have much better stopping power today than they did decades ago when many speed limits were introduced, and nobody can tell me that the same speed limit is applicable in the same place, at all times of day in all weathers. Is it really just as safe doing 70 in the rain as it is on a sunny day? No. Were these things truly thought out, we'd see many more variable speed limits, the national speed limit being raised, and more 20mph zones in urban areas

Also, fuel consumption doesn't improve lock-step with a reduction in speed. I know for a fact that my car gives better mileage at 80mph than it does at 70mph, for example

But just to re-iterate, the 40mph limit in the Forest is definately right. Too many animals wandering freely about the place for us to go any faster than that. And who wants to anyway? It's one of the few places left that's actually pleasant to drive through and look at. Slow down and enjoy it, speeders!
Posted by: tinanews, southampton on 4:50pm Fri 16 May 08
at last action is being taken against locals who constantly ignore the 40mph speed limit across the forest, believing that it is their right to travel at whatever speed they want on these narrow and winding roads that animals are roaming freely across the forest roads.

I sincereley hope that the police will start prosecuting drivers who injure and kill forest animals. If speed limits were adherred to, then the number of accidents involving animals would be dramatically reduced as drivers would have enough time to avoid forest animals on the roads.
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