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JAN POORTVLIET
JAN POORTVLIET

Jan Poortvliet was a happy man after seeing his Saints side draw 2-2 with West Ham at St Mary's last night.

Poortvliet had promised to treat the game as if it were next Saturday's Championship opener against Cardiff and saw his current first choice side, apart from the injured Kelvin Davis, put in an excellent display.

David McGoldrick netted both Saints goals in the first half but the Premiership side battled back to make it 2-2.

Saints' performance was well received by the 12,000 fans in the ground and Poortvliet was delighted with the way his side performed in their penultimate friendly before the Championship season begins.

He said: "We have to look at the game in general and everyone has seen a good game and a quick game from both sides.

"The first 45 minutes we were outstanding, we made two goals and we deserved it. We had everything - good pressure, good football, shots on goal.

"It was very good and the second half we played good.

"On certain moments we made mistakes and we have to learn from that but I think in general the boys played 90 minutes and continued to try to play and play and play, and I think we were a bit unlucky Jake Thomson didn't make it 3-1.

"In general we are satisfied and I think everybody would have enjoyed the game.

"We try to bring a quickness in the game from the goalkeeper throwing the ball out to passing quick going forwards and I think everyone will be happy with that.

"Everything now has to bring results and confidence but from last night they can take a lot of confidence."

For full story, match report and pictures see today's Daily Echo.

7:15am Saturday 2nd August 2008

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Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 7:49am Sat 2 Aug 08
This guy appears to be what the club have lacked since Strachan left. Open and frank with his comments, certainly not defending players or making excuses. If players like James, Gillett and Thomson are up to it why weren't they being played last season?
Posted by: thedelldays, southampton on 7:57am Sat 2 Aug 08
I read comments on this site calling the coacg a donkey and clueless etc...well, he certainly is not...I saw some sheer brilliant football last night with the players moving, passing and rotating like never before, the work rate was sky high and fully deserved to beat west ham if it not was for their equaliser which was miles off side..

those who want to stay away because of lowe are welcome to, the rest of us are in for some fantastic games at SMS this season..
Posted by: joe, southampton on 8:12am Sat 2 Aug 08
Bring on the season,
come on you saints

Posted by: Needles, Kings Somborne on 8:23am Sat 2 Aug 08
Was there last night - BRILLIANT

LLoyd James was outstanding!
Posted by: MIKE MACEY, SALISBURY on 8:25am Sat 2 Aug 08
YOU KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS? FITNESS
Posted by: Ian Owen, London on 8:28am Sat 2 Aug 08
That's excellent news about free flowing football. I'm hoping to come down for the Stoke game if I can get the day off work. I'm also hoping a lot of other fans are going to be there. I can't believe we are only attracting 12,000 fans.
Still think we need a fullback but a question to people who were at the game last night, who should be our starting 11?
Posted by: Rottie on 8:40am Sat 2 Aug 08
I have been calling for McG ever since he bagged the goals in the reserves. Idiots in these forums say he doesnt have championship experience. Fact is he does know where the goal is! That applies to all the young kids, no experience??? who cares,they give 110%. Not like the prima donnas we have had. They could kill some of the championship teams with fitness.
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 8:46am Sat 2 Aug 08
It was clear last season that the players weren't fit. I felt that Pearson tried to rectify this but it was too little too late.

It's great to see young players coming back into the team. It reminds me of my youth when I used to see Le Tiss, Shearer, the Wallaces, Benali and Dodd at The Dell.
Posted by: Wont get stuffed, soton on 8:49am Sat 2 Aug 08
Davies (when fit)
James
Svensson
Perry (need Andrew Davies in here thou asap)
Surman

shneiderlin
Gillet (I would have wotton in here)
Lallana

Holmes
McGoldrick (i'm sorry but this needs to be stern john)
Dyer

Bench - Thomas, BWP, Bewlgowski, wotton, John

we need to get these players out of the club and off the wage bill - Skacel, Safri, Euell, Rasiak, saga and get in a full back on loan - if surman or james get injured we are in trouble. Keeping john is a must.
Posted by: St Michael, Poole on 8:56am Sat 2 Aug 08
Well Done Saints! Saints last night were superb, some of the passing and movement was outstanding. The Stoke game will be a good test, playing against a much more physical side. The football on show last night is beginning banish the memories I still have of the last two seasons' dire home games against Colchester! Be there on Tuesday night! COYR
Posted by: SteveYOT, Harefield on 9:03am Sat 2 Aug 08
Fantastic stuff from the youngsters, they were a credit to the R&W shirt. What a difference a pre-season makes. Got rid of a load of dead wood (more still to go, brought in enthusiasm. Feet on the ground though, this is still pre-season. To me its shaping up like we'll hammer a few sides in the league, but will equally get a few bashings as well (remember there are a lot of bruisers and cloggers that won't let us play). Bring on the season, and to all you stay aways - come back and put your money where your mouth is, the club needs it - whatever our views are about the boardroom. Swallow your pride and prejudice and fill the stadium for these kids, they are worth it.
Posted by: Cilla Black, not too far away.. on 9:09am Sat 2 Aug 08
Surprise Surprise...

Saints have a great result, show some real promise...and the whingers, moaners and Lowe haters are nowhere to be seen.

Good news. Hopefully they'll crawl back under their rocks and leave the real fans to get behind the club.

You don't have to like Rupert Lowe to see that Portvliet has Saints playing some quality football. We stil have some fine tuning to do, but I'll be there as much as possible this year, cheering the lads on with all my heart.
With a bit of passion and belief, promotion isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

Come on you Reds!!
Posted by: Dan, soton on 9:19am Sat 2 Aug 08
Wont get stuffed wrote:
Davies (when fit)
James
Svensson
Perry (need Andrew Davies in here thou asap)
Surman

shneiderlin
Gillet (I would have wotton in here)
Lallana

Holmes
McGoldrick (i'm sorry but this needs to be stern john)
Dyer

Bench - Thomas, BWP, Bewlgowski, wotton, John

we need to get these players out of the club and off the wage bill - Skacel, Safri, Euell, Rasiak, saga and get in a full back on loan - if surman or james get injured we are in trouble. Keeping john is a must.
I would go for

Bialkowski

James
Svennson
Perry
Surman

Schneiderlin
Gillett
Thompson

Dyer
Mcgoldrick
LLalana
Posted by: Wazza on 9:25am Sat 2 Aug 08
We played well last night. We looked to go forward we had some enthusiasm, we looked hungry and up for it. First half I'm not sure west Ham got the ball!

However we looked small and weak compared to a West Ham side that were still only building up to their season. When Lowe returned and bought in Jan I was mortified but now I am cautiously optimistic, however Cardiff away in the Championship (and the like) will be a completely different kettle of fish to West Ham home in a frindly
Posted by: SwissSaint, Basel, Switzerland on 9:50am Sat 2 Aug 08
From what I heard, it sounds like our style of football is returning to that of the Chris Nichol era. Fast-Flowing, attacking and very exciting football!. Fantastic!!

I must admit, though, to being dissolusioned with Lowe's return and I thought it was a BIG mistake that big Nige didn't have his contract renewed..but now I'm very happy to be eating my own words.
The future's bright, the future's Saints! COYR!
Posted by: SFC76, Boycotting St Mary's on 9:52am Sat 2 Aug 08
How many times do I have to advise you sad deluded lowe luvvvies. Portaloo and his co clowns are talking double dutch lowe spin yet again. the side is going to struggle. the sooner we go into administration the better for all of us lowe out, wilde out and take the dutch clowns with you.
Posted by: N on 9:53am Sat 2 Aug 08
I saw more football played in 90 minutes last night than in the last two seasons, put together!

An excellent performance against a strong West Ham side Bellamy, Upson, Neill etc.
(who used about 8 subs, to our one)

Good flowing sensible well-thought out football played out by players hungry for the ball and working as a team, if this is Saints under Poortvliet then I can't wait for the season to start.

Great to see Svensson back, didn't put a foot (or head) wrong all night, and will make a superb captain and example to the youngsters.
The only under-par performance came from Bart who looked very shaky an did not caommand his area at all.

WELL DONE TO ALL CONCERNED, COYR!
Posted by: Ken, Mansbridge on 10:11am Sat 2 Aug 08
SFC76 wrote:
How many times do I have to advise you sad deluded lowe luvvvies. Portaloo and his co clowns are talking double dutch lowe spin yet again. the side is going to struggle. the sooner we go into administration the better for all of us lowe out, wilde out and take the dutch clowns with you.
I prefer to rely on the comments of those that attend the games, rather than your ill-informed rubbish.
You have proved what an idiot you are so I hope this draws a line under your posts, I will not respond to your childish insults anymore and hope the rest of the posters can do the same.
Go and troll somewhere else.
Up the Saints!
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 10:15am Sat 2 Aug 08
I've looked back and found the last negative posting referring to Lowe and and Donkeys to be about 8:32 p.m. Friday evening.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if that was the last for a while.

There's bound to be some bad results (not too many we hope) in the next season BUT its absolutley great to see such strong Club support - even for a draw.

Up the Saints!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: STH on 10:17am Sat 2 Aug 08
SFC76 wrote:
How many times do I have to advise you sad deluded lowe luvvvies. Portaloo and his co clowns are talking double dutch lowe spin yet again. the side is going to struggle. the sooner we go into administration the better for all of us lowe out, wilde out and take the dutch clowns with you.
Morning PFC76 !!

It's obvious now isn't it.
Posted by: Captain Swing, Southampton on 10:24am Sat 2 Aug 08
SFC76 wrote:
How many times do I have to advise you sad deluded lowe luvvvies. Portaloo and his co clowns are talking double dutch lowe spin yet again. the side is going to struggle. the sooner we go into administration the better for all of us lowe out, wilde out and take the dutch clowns with you.
Great spectical last night!
You, SFC76, weren't missed. And, happily, it appears that you won't be missed for a very, very long time.
Posted by: washsaint, Salisbury on 10:26am Sat 2 Aug 08
Ignore the idiot that is SF76 - if it is who I think it is thank god the National Front supporting muppet will be nowhere near St Marys eh Tris?

What a great display last night - when the teams were announced I was concerned as only Killer and Perry were over 23! However, the football played was beautiful with a real edge and the lads really got stuck in and gave West Ham no time on the ball at all.

It made me, for the first time in many years, proud to be a Saints fan and to see hungry, up for it, proud to wear the shirt team playing for each other was a joy to behold.

James was outstanding at RB and it looks like he has made that position his own (with Hatch in the wings), Gillett and Schneiderlin ran midfield and Thomson and Holmes worked their socks off on the wings and frightened West Ham with their skill and speed.

McGoldrick also had a blinder and was everywhere in search of the ball.

I cannot remember ever watching a Saints side pass the ball as well and as consistently as last night. I think the writing is on the wall for players like Rasiak, Saga and SKacel.

To think, we have players waiting in the wings like Patterson, White, Hatch, Mills, Gobern, Racine....the future really does look bright. A top 10 finish will exceed all expectations this season.

I'm loving what JP and Wotte are doing.....in such a short space of time they have turned us from one dimensional hoof and hope side to a cultured, dangerous side with pace, movement and plenty of skill.
Posted by: Ted Stripes, SO19 on 10:38am Sat 2 Aug 08
washsaint wrote:
Ignore the idiot that is SF76 - if it is who I think it is thank god the National Front supporting muppet will be nowhere near St Marys eh Tris? What a great display last night - when the teams were announced I was concerned as only Killer and Perry were over 23! However, the football played was beautiful with a real edge and the lads really got stuck in and gave West Ham no time on the ball at all. It made me, for the first time in many years, proud to be a Saints fan and to see hungry, up for it, proud to wear the shirt team playing for each other was a joy to behold. James was outstanding at RB and it looks like he has made that position his own (with Hatch in the wings), Gillett and Schneiderlin ran midfield and Thomson and Holmes worked their socks off on the wings and frightened West Ham with their skill and speed. McGoldrick also had a blinder and was everywhere in search of the ball. I cannot remember ever watching a Saints side pass the ball as well and as consistently as last night. I think the writing is on the wall for players like Rasiak, Saga and SKacel. To think, we have players waiting in the wings like Patterson, White, Hatch, Mills, Gobern, Racine....the future really does look bright. A top 10 finish will exceed all expectations this season. I'm loving what JP and Wotte are doing.....in such a short space of time they have turned us from one dimensional hoof and hope side to a cultured, dangerous side with pace, movement and plenty of skill.
I Couldn`t agree more.
It was the first game I have really enjoyed since I can`t remember. I thought we were a little bit too adventurous at times, but what the heck. I think we will be a big surprise to some of the more agricultural sides.
COME ON YOU FANS, WHERE ARE ALL THE FAIRWEATHER CUP FINAL SUPPORTERS, COME ALONG> THIS IS THE START OF SOMETHING BIG.
Posted by: thedelldays, southampton on 10:50am Sat 2 Aug 08
SF76 you are an IDIOT...the dutch duo are clearly far from donkeys and in fact, got the team playing some of the best football I have seen in years..YES we will lose at times and probably get the odd heavy defeat but to suggest we are down the pan after seein last night is was wide of reality..SHOULD we play like that most of the season and do well with injuries I can only see a play off challenge..

NOW, that does not fit in with you agenda i know, but the rest of us will be getting value for money and get entertained by a bunch of teenagers..

ffs, only 2-3 players were over 23!!!

you stay away, please, the (very) young lads played their hearts out and dont need people like you at the ground..

watching players like James, schneiderlin, gillit and holmes do what they did last night made me walk away from SMS with a huge smile on my face...cant remember the last time that happened (sheff utd apart)...

oh, please dont send me any more emails to re activate my account of foreversaints..you banned me for calling you obsessed out lowe..which you clearly are
Posted by: St Mark, Northampton on 10:58am Sat 2 Aug 08
Ted Stripes wrote:
washsaint wrote:
Ignore the idiot that is SF76 - if it is who I think it is thank god the National Front supporting muppet will be nowhere near St Marys eh Tris? What a great display last night - when the teams were announced I was concerned as only Killer and Perry were over 23! However, the football played was beautiful with a real edge and the lads really got stuck in and gave West Ham no time on the ball at all. It made me, for the first time in many years, proud to be a Saints fan and to see hungry, up for it, proud to wear the shirt team playing for each other was a joy to behold. James was outstanding at RB and it looks like he has made that position his own (with Hatch in the wings), Gillett and Schneiderlin ran midfield and Thomson and Holmes worked their socks off on the wings and frightened West Ham with their skill and speed. McGoldrick also had a blinder and was everywhere in search of the ball. I cannot remember ever watching a Saints side pass the ball as well and as consistently as last night. I think the writing is on the wall for players like Rasiak, Saga and SKacel. To think, we have players waiting in the wings like Patterson, White, Hatch, Mills, Gobern, Racine....the future really does look bright. A top 10 finish will exceed all expectations this season. I'm loving what JP and Wotte are doing.....in such a short space of time they have turned us from one dimensional hoof and hope side to a cultured, dangerous side with pace, movement and plenty of skill.
I Couldn`t agree more.
It was the first game I have really enjoyed since I can`t remember. I thought we were a little bit too adventurous at times, but what the heck. I think we will be a big surprise to some of the more agricultural sides.
COME ON YOU FANS, WHERE ARE ALL THE FAIRWEATHER CUP FINAL SUPPORTERS, COME ALONG> THIS IS THE START OF SOMETHING BIG.
I agree that the Team meeds the support of a large fan base Ted, but calling them "fair weather cup final supporters" is a method of motivation that might need some tweaking! ;-)

See you next season!
Posted by: DJI, Kingsland on 11:12am Sat 2 Aug 08
I found myself sitting in the Kingsland smiling as I watched my Team enjoying themselves on the pitch. I have seen some of the other friendlies too and have been impressed with the youngsters ever since. They don't give up, attack as a force, and support each other in defence.

For anyone who went last night; can you ever remember Saints tackling so much in recent times? Ever area of the pitch saw a Saints shirt tackling and winning the ball back or getting it to safety. Holmes, right in front of Northum, put in a great tackle on the right to deny the Hammers left winger and send him of the floor! For anyone that doesn't know, Holmes is our left winger!

I loved to see the confident Schneiderlin making plays, controlling the midfield, passing around the park. Some of his little flicks were sensational and completely wrong-footed the opposition. Last season, our players tried this and failed miserably; it shows what players with confidence can do!

Lloyd James in right back had a great game but I agree we need another player to slot in if he gets injured. But James certainly looks the part, making some telling tackles at the right times and, instead of giving possesion away, starts the play off again. Question for those who went: how many corners did we concede last night? Far less than any other game last season. In fact, most of the time, we won the ball and, through good movement by others, were able to make an attack again.

For all those with principles, put them in your sock drawer and come and watch an exciting team, full of energy, confidence and pride, playing for each other and the RED & WHITE of Saints.

Clever touch from Holmes at the end, walking the pitch and applauding the supporters; at a home game! Not a bad start for someone who has just joined the club.
Posted by: Jack, Chandlers Ford on 11:18am Sat 2 Aug 08
Great performance last night, we played with hunger, determination and style! We played some excellent football and out played West Ham in many passages of the game. West Ham fielded a good side and we deservedly got a draw, my main concern is the lack of height at set pieces, but get Davies back and perhaps Wayne Thomas somewhere along the back line and I think that can be resolved.

I know its only one game but I am quite optimistic about the new season, we looked much fitter and hungrier than last season - play like this throughout the season and there will be much more room for optimism!

Lets just get some good crowds in St Marys to back the team!
Posted by: Happy Little Bunny, St.Mary's forever. on 11:30am Sat 2 Aug 08
To all those boycotting games just to spite one man;
I think it is time you bit the bullet and hauled your sorry a**es back to St.Marys, you are going to miss out on some cracking football, last night was the best football I have seen at St.Marys. Every player gave his all and it was a superb team performance. (The only under par player was Bart "Katalinic")

The only people you will be hurting are yourselves.
Posted by: Mark on 11:46am Sat 2 Aug 08
Great performance lets keep it up!

come on u saints
Posted by: realist, cloud 8 1/2 on 11:47am Sat 2 Aug 08
it really is heartwarming to see so many positive posts here today and a general sense of optimism running through a site usually choc-a-bloc full of woe from the doom-and-gloom merchants.
Let's just hope we can harness this spirit and the future looks bright.
No, we're not going to win every game, and yes, we're sure to get a few stuffings along the way, but that's the CCC for you. The great thing about this style of football is that if you go up you don't have to change totally to adapt to the demands of the Premiership, which is what happened in the past few years with Watford, Palace, Sunderland (pre-Keane) and Derby.
No reason why Saints can't soon become a Premiershihp force again.
Oh, and just one more thing, here's to us passing P#mp#y and 'orrible 'Arry on their way down.
COYR
Posted by: harry fox, New Forest on 11:49am Sat 2 Aug 08
Well played Saints! A very promising start. Easy to get carried away by a performance like this - and why not! Sterner tests will come with heavy pitches, injuries as the CCC heavies go all out to clobber our kids and opposition who might be out for more than a summer stroll in the evening sunshine.

Today 'though, enough to savour and dream of what might become..




Posted by: Ian Owen, London on 12:18pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Dan wrote:
Wont get stuffed wrote:
Davies (when fit)
James
Svensson
Perry (need Andrew Davies in here thou asap)
Surman

shneiderlin
Gillet (I would have wotton in here)
Lallana

Holmes
McGoldrick (i'm sorry but this needs to be stern john)
Dyer

Bench - Thomas, BWP, Bewlgowski, wotton, John

we need to get these players out of the club and off the wage bill - Skacel, Safri, Euell, Rasiak, saga and get in a full back on loan - if surman or james get injured we are in trouble. Keeping john is a must.
I would go for

Bialkowski

James
Svennson
Perry
Surman

Schneiderlin
Gillett
Thompson

Dyer
Mcgoldrick
LLalana
I can't stand the idea of Surman being our left back.
Posted by: Hutch on 12:26pm Sat 2 Aug 08
It seems that Burley may not have supped the "Spirit of Southampton" after all.
It appears that JP & MW have found a crate of the stuff.
I forsee plenty of goals (at both ends) for Saints this season, but what a contrast to the dull, negative football of the past few seasons.
Keep it up.
Posted by: Lowe has not yet redeemed himself, wait until February to see if he ever does. on 12:28pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Graham wrote:
I've looked back and found the last negative posting referring to Lowe and and Donkeys to be about 8:32 p.m. Friday evening. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that was the last for a while. There's bound to be some bad results (not too many we hope) in the next season BUT its absolutley great to see such strong Club support - even for a draw. Up the Saints!!!!!!!!!!
I absolutely loathe Rupert Lowe not because of his class because I do not feel inferior to him but because of what he has done to the staus of our club in terms of its finances, resources, players, reputation and its status. However I love Southampton FC and and will not let him get in the way of my support for the club. As far as I am concerned he has a long way to go to make amends for the harm he has done. With regard to the team I have never made a negative comment and was impressed at what I saw against Celtic. Other commitments meant I could not be there last night so I cannot comment on the match. I have looked for the opinions of the media and Hammers fans to get a line free of spin. What is undeniable though is that the squad still needs strengthening at full back and up front. Hate Lowe love the club.
Posted by: N on 12:31pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Ian Owen wrote:
Dan wrote:
Wont get stuffed wrote: Davies (when fit) James Svensson Perry (need Andrew Davies in here thou asap) Surman shneiderlin Gillet (I would have wotton in here) Lallana Holmes McGoldrick (i'm sorry but this needs to be stern john) Dyer Bench - Thomas, BWP, Bewlgowski, wotton, John we need to get these players out of the club and off the wage bill - Skacel, Safri, Euell, Rasiak, saga and get in a full back on loan - if surman or james get injured we are in trouble. Keeping john is a must.
I would go for Bialkowski James Svennson Perry Surman Schneiderlin Gillett Thompson Dyer Mcgoldrick LLalana
I can't stand the idea of Surman being our left back.
Under JP the players do not stick to their positions, but when Surman surges forward someone else will take responsibility and cover for him.
Total Football at its best.
As long as they all work as hard as they did last night the stadium will soon be full again.

Posted by: ANON due to sad losers copying my name, Shirley, Southampton on 12:33pm Sat 2 Aug 08
SFC76 wrote:
How many times do I have to advise you sad deluded lowe luvvvies. Portaloo and his co clowns are talking double dutch lowe spin yet again. the side is going to struggle. the sooner we go into administration the better for all of us lowe out, wilde out and take the dutch clowns with you.
Are you a genuine supporter? If we go into adminstration that is automatic points deduction which could relegate us! I do agree with your anti-Lowe opionions but administration - NO WAY.
Posted by: Don't let the truth ruin a good rant on 12:38pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Lowe has not yet redeemed himself wrote:
Graham wrote: I've looked back and found the last negative posting referring to Lowe and and Donkeys to be about 8:32 p.m. Friday evening. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that was the last for a while. There's bound to be some bad results (not too many we hope) in the next season BUT its absolutley great to see such strong Club support - even for a draw. Up the Saints!!!!!!!!!!
I absolutely loathe Rupert Lowe not because of his class because I do not feel inferior to him but because of what he has done to the staus of our club in terms of its finances, resources, players, reputation and its status. However I love Southampton FC and and will not let him get in the way of my support for the club. As far as I am concerned he has a long way to go to make amends for the harm he has done. With regard to the team I have never made a negative comment and was impressed at what I saw against Celtic. Other commitments meant I could not be there last night so I cannot comment on the match. I have looked for the opinions of the media and Hammers fans to get a line free of spin. What is undeniable though is that the squad still needs strengthening at full back and up front. Hate Lowe love the club.
We spent 27 years in the top flight, 10 years of which Lowe was at the helm.
In 2 seasons without Lowe we were one game away from Division 3.
Get over him, and support YOUR team.
Posted by: Matt D, Centre of the Northem Stand, Lowe or not. on 1:05pm Sat 2 Aug 08
What a game did not come away feeling dissapointed at all, if only a little hard done by that we did not win it. The football was brilliant running circles round the other team and a brilliant passing percentage. Lee Holmes is great down the wing and we where just missing Dyers pace down the other side. Surman plays well as a sort of attacking left defence feeding through well to Holmes and the other mid fielders. David McGoldrick seems to be fairly accurate and hits the target even if the keeper saves it you got to hit the target to score. I agree we need to hang on to Stern we would be in div 1 if it was not for his goals last season and we need his experiance up front. I really am looking forward to the season now we have a good team of lads that want to play and want play right up until the end of the match. Oh and Killer what a legend you would have thought he would take it a bit easy but he dont mind putting him self in the way to stop an attack.
Posted by: George, Hamble on 1:23pm Sat 2 Aug 08
On last night's performance, my lineup would be (notice I use the revolutionary 4-2-1-2-1 formation):

Bialkowski (until he has a few bad performances)

Surman (but would prefer someone in on loan)
Davies (Perry when he is injured)
Svensson (legend)
James (brilliant last night)

Schneiderlin (best player on the park)
Wotton(Gillett makes too many mistakes)

Euell (Lallana wasn't that good v WHU)

Holmes (links up well with midfield)
Thomson (hard-worker/creativ
e)

John (proven goalscorer)

Subs: Davis, Perry, Gillett, Lallana, McGoldrick
Posted by: Northover85, hythe on 2:15pm Sat 2 Aug 08
i can officially bow me head, and say the double dutch have got us playing SEXY football the only decent thing lowe has done is bring in these 2. Schneiderlin absolute run the midflied in the first half and tomson and holmes look quailty on the wings, if we play like that this season i will be very happy.

jan sorry i ever doubt u!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Credit the manager, coaches and team, but credit useless Lowe with nothing. on 2:57pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Don't let the truth ruin a good rant wrote:
Lowe has not yet redeemed himself wrote:
Graham wrote: I've looked back and found the last negative posting referring to Lowe and and Donkeys to be about 8:32 p.m. Friday evening. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that was the last for a while. There's bound to be some bad results (not too many we hope) in the next season BUT its absolutley great to see such strong Club support - even for a draw. Up the Saints!!!!!!!!!!
I absolutely loathe Rupert Lowe not because of his class because I do not feel inferior to him but because of what he has done to the staus of our club in terms of its finances, resources, players, reputation and its status. However I love Southampton FC and and will not let him get in the way of my support for the club. As far as I am concerned he has a long way to go to make amends for the harm he has done. With regard to the team I have never made a negative comment and was impressed at what I saw against Celtic. Other commitments meant I could not be there last night so I cannot comment on the match. I have looked for the opinions of the media and Hammers fans to get a line free of spin. What is undeniable though is that the squad still needs strengthening at full back and up front. Hate Lowe love the club.
We spent 27 years in the top flight, 10 years of which Lowe was at the helm. In 2 seasons without Lowe we were one game away from Division 3. Get over him, and support YOUR team.
And for five of those seasons he had more resources at his disposal than any previous chairman. He messed up big time for which I will never forgive him so you stop your spin, stop denying the truth about him and like me support the saints but hate Lowe. The last two years were the consequences of his actions.
Posted by: John on 3:41pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Great result, BUT what about low crowd, dont think it short term only 9500 ST sold. We need to get fans back to games.
Posted by: Bored of whingers on 4:10pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Credit the manager, coaches and team wrote:
Don't let the truth ruin a good rant wrote:
Lowe has not yet redeemed himself wrote:
Graham wrote: I've looked back and found the last negative posting referring to Lowe and and Donkeys to be about 8:32 p.m. Friday evening. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that was the last for a while. There's bound to be some bad results (not too many we hope) in the next season BUT its absolutley great to see such strong Club support - even for a draw. Up the Saints!!!!!!!!!!
I absolutely loathe Rupert Lowe not because of his class because I do not feel inferior to him but because of what he has done to the staus of our club in terms of its finances, resources, players, reputation and its status. However I love Southampton FC and and will not let him get in the way of my support for the club. As far as I am concerned he has a long way to go to make amends for the harm he has done. With regard to the team I have never made a negative comment and was impressed at what I saw against Celtic. Other commitments meant I could not be there last night so I cannot comment on the match. I have looked for the opinions of the media and Hammers fans to get a line free of spin. What is undeniable though is that the squad still needs strengthening at full back and up front. Hate Lowe love the club.
We spent 27 years in the top flight, 10 years of which Lowe was at the helm. In 2 seasons without Lowe we were one game away from Division 3. Get over him, and support YOUR team.
And for five of those seasons he had more resources at his disposal than any previous chairman. He messed up big time for which I will never forgive him so you stop your spin, stop denying the truth about him and like me support the saints but hate Lowe. The last two years were the consequences of his actions.
I hate no-one.

Except perhaps those that try to force their opinion onto others.
Posted by: Ever the optimist on 4:15pm Sat 2 Aug 08
John wrote:
Great result, BUT what about low crowd, dont think it short term only 9500 ST sold. We need to get fans back to games.
12,000+ for a pre-season FRIENDLY.
Pretty good turn-out considering the number of people away on holiday.
If they continue to play the way they did last night the crowds will soon start rising. Might even force a U-turn about closing the corners.

I too and bored of all this Lowe talk, lets just ignore the attention-seeker and support OUR club. A successful buyer will be looking for an attractive investment, not a half-empty one.
Posted by: adam on 4:16pm Sat 2 Aug 08
devonsaint wrote:
SFC76 wrote: How many times do I have to advise you sad deluded lowe luvvvies. Portaloo and his co clowns are talking double dutch lowe spin yet again. the side is going to struggle. the sooner we go into administration the better for all of us lowe out, wilde out and take the dutch clowns with you.
does the 'SFC' bit of your name stand for stupid fat c*nt?
Please we dont need to be rude, he has opinion that just different to you.
Posted by: leesaint, behindbluelines on 4:50pm Sat 2 Aug 08
I admit I don't like Lowe but everyone deserves a second chance and this time he seems to have got it right. most fans I know wanted to see the youngsters bought in last season. We always wanted entertaining football as well results and it looks like we will get it.

COYR
Posted by: thedelldays, soton on 4:58pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Credit the manager, coaches and team wrote:
Don't let the truth ruin a good rant wrote:
Lowe has not yet redeemed himself wrote:
Graham wrote: I've looked back and found the last negative posting referring to Lowe and and Donkeys to be about 8:32 p.m. Friday evening. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that was the last for a while. There's bound to be some bad results (not too many we hope) in the next season BUT its absolutley great to see such strong Club support - even for a draw. Up the Saints!!!!!!!!!!
I absolutely loathe Rupert Lowe not because of his class because I do not feel inferior to him but because of what he has done to the staus of our club in terms of its finances, resources, players, reputation and its status. However I love Southampton FC and and will not let him get in the way of my support for the club. As far as I am concerned he has a long way to go to make amends for the harm he has done. With regard to the team I have never made a negative comment and was impressed at what I saw against Celtic. Other commitments meant I could not be there last night so I cannot comment on the match. I have looked for the opinions of the media and Hammers fans to get a line free of spin. What is undeniable though is that the squad still needs strengthening at full back and up front. Hate Lowe love the club.
We spent 27 years in the top flight, 10 years of which Lowe was at the helm. In 2 seasons without Lowe we were one game away from Division 3. Get over him, and support YOUR team.
And for five of those seasons he had more resources at his disposal than any previous chairman. He messed up big time for which I will never forgive him so you stop your spin, stop denying the truth about him and like me support the saints but hate Lowe. The last two years were the consequences of his actions.
yes..and we got a cup final to remember and european football...ffs, blackburn won the league and went down not long after...
Posted by: Robhythe, Hythe on 5:19pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Ever the optimist wrote:
John wrote: Great result, BUT what about low crowd, dont think it short term only 9500 ST sold. We need to get fans back to games.
12,000+ for a pre-season FRIENDLY. Pretty good turn-out considering the number of people away on holiday. If they continue to play the way they did last night the crowds will soon start rising. Might even force a U-turn about closing the corners. I too and bored of all this Lowe talk, lets just ignore the attention-seeker and support OUR club. A successful buyer will be looking for an attractive investment, not a half-empty one.
I agree 12000 is ok for pre season friendly! Dont forget most other teams have low attendances for these games!! Man City had only 7000 last week for a european qualifier!!
Posted by: StuSaint, Dorset on 6:07pm Sat 2 Aug 08
12000 attendance is FANTASTIC for A tough pre-season friendly where expectation was poor and already we feel happier due to a positive performance. Top job to Jan and the boys. Good luck and hopefully Saints can have a season which makes us forget about the past few seasons. Come ON You Reds.
Posted by: Frank on 6:29pm Sat 2 Aug 08
i was sceptical about Lowes return and even more sceptical about the dutch duo but after what i saw last night i think we could be in for an exciting season i'm not sure about promotion but we seem to be going in the right direction and at the same time sorting out our financial probs !!!!
Posted by: john, basingstoke on 6:38pm Sat 2 Aug 08
couldnt believe what i was seeing last night. saints stringing 2/3/4 passes together in a row! when was the last time we did that?! i was expecting saints to get a good kicking from west ham but it was the other way round. Now weve got rid of all the old carthorses the team looks so much better.
when we sacked pearson i couldnt believe it as i really liked him and thought he was the best man for the job. but poortvliet has really got them playing and giving 100% for the team. Add andrew davies, stern john and dyer to the mix and we do have a really good side which is amazing considering the circumstances. It shows what a good job poortvliet has done that we can look forwards to a good season, who would have thought....
Posted by: Chas on 7:38pm Sat 2 Aug 08
goodness knows what anti-Lowe thickos are thinking now.the latest events must be scrambling thier tiny confused minds ! lol!
Posted by: adam on 8:20pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Why if someone has a differnt opinion to you they are thick. I think you have a problem, without the anti lowe saint fans the club will be in real trouble. We all support saints, me, you, guess most people on this site. We need to build bridges not walls. Lowe is a prat but he is our prat, we need the 8000 missing fans back in SMS for home games - get a life.
Posted by: SAINTS DIEHARD NUMBER ONE, london on 8:35pm Sat 2 Aug 08
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! COME ONE U REDS! PLEASE CHANT THIS GUYS FOR EVERY HOME GAME AND U WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE PLAYERS.GOOD LUCK TO THE GREAT CLUB OF ENGLAND. U ARE RISING AGAIN! YES!!!!!!!!!!! I AM CONFIDENT ENOUGH
Posted by: joseph, southampton on 9:20pm Sat 2 Aug 08
I Love the saints, come on
Posted by: Del on 9:42pm Sat 2 Aug 08
adam wrote:
Why if someone has a differnt opinion to you they are thick. I think you have a problem, without the anti lowe saint fans the club will be in real trouble. We all support saints, me, you, guess most people on this site. We need to build bridges not walls. Lowe is a prat but he is our prat, we need the 8000 missing fans back in SMS for home games - get a life.
I think it is the likes of you that have a problem and that is a lack of perception.We had 8-10,000 missing fans last season and Lowe wasnt there !
I bet what Chas means is he is sick of negativity of the anti-lowe rabble.They seem to want to have problems so they can blame it on Lowe.
Enough.Get behind the new set up or **** off and support Pumpey.Forget about the deluded fantasies of multi-million takeovers or dim-witted fan led consortiums.
COYS.
Posted by: HEROD on 9:51pm Sat 2 Aug 08
adam wrote:
Why if someone has a differnt opinion to you they are thick. I think you have a problem, without the anti lowe saint fans the club will be in real trouble. We all support saints, me, you, guess most people on this site. We need to build bridges not walls. Lowe is a prat but he is our prat, we need the 8000 missing fans back in SMS for home games - get a life.
YEAH Right ! The anti-lowes really helped the club didnt they ?They heralded the worst season in the clubs history.Worse than the Branfoot era and worse than the relegation season.
We got our club back-my arse.
Investment-****
Fan On The Board-Bullshit
Thank god Rupert is back and thank god the Dutch revolution is under way.
Posted by: Adam on 10:56pm Sat 2 Aug 08
HEROD wrote:
adam wrote: Why if someone has a differnt opinion to you they are thick. I think you have a problem, without the anti lowe saint fans the club will be in real trouble. We all support saints, me, you, guess most people on this site. We need to build bridges not walls. Lowe is a prat but he is our prat, we need the 8000 missing fans back in SMS for home games - get a life.
YEAH Right ! The anti-lowes really helped the club didnt they ?They heralded the worst season in the clubs history.Worse than the Branfoot era and worse than the relegation season. We got our club back-my arse. Investment-**** Fan On The Board-Bullshit Thank god Rupert is back and thank god the Dutch revolution is under way.
T**ser.
Posted by: ANON due to sad losers copying my name, Southampton on 12:06am Sun 3 Aug 08
joseph wrote:
I Love the saints, come on
Me too. Nice comment. COYR :-)
Posted by: Bobby Valentino, Borrusia on 12:17am Sun 3 Aug 08
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! COME ONE U REDS! PLEASE CHANT THIS GUYS FOR EVERY HOME GAME AND U WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE PLAYERS.GOOD LUCK TO THE GREAT CLUB OF ENGLAND. U ARE RISING AGAIN! YES!!!!!!!!!!! I AM CONFIDENT ENOUGH

Brilliant Good Comment! COYS
Posted by: C O Y R on 12:40am Sun 3 Aug 08
C O Y R
Posted by: ADAM on 7:14am Sun 3 Aug 08
Del wrote:
adam wrote: Why if someone has a differnt opinion to you they are thick. I think you have a problem, without the anti lowe saint fans the club will be in real trouble. We all support saints, me, you, guess most people on this site. We need to build bridges not walls. Lowe is a prat but he is our prat, we need the 8000 missing fans back in SMS for home games - get a life.
I think it is the likes of you that have a problem and that is a lack of perception.We had 8-10,000 missing fans last season and Lowe wasnt there ! I bet what Chas means is he is sick of negativity of the anti-lowe rabble.They seem to want to have problems so they can blame it on Lowe. Enough.Get behind the new set up or **** off and support Pumpey.Forget about the deluded fantasies of multi-million takeovers or dim-witted fan led consortiums. COYS.
Average gate last season 22000, with only 9000 ST sold, average gate this season wis expected to be about 11000, the club will be in serious s**t for cash. Thats the missing fans Ime talking about, WE NEED them back.
Posted by: stripey on 7:34am Sun 3 Aug 08
I see the pro-lowe facists have been out in force again trying to silence anyone who disagrees with them. Its as if they genuinely believe that slagging other saints fans off is going to help. Come on, stop all this slagging and start pulling in the same direction.
Posted by: Adam on 8:00am Sun 3 Aug 08
stripey wrote:
I see the pro-lowe facists have been out in force again trying to silence anyone who disagrees with them. Its as if they genuinely believe that slagging other saints fans off is going to help. Come on, stop all this slagging and start pulling in the same direction.
Dont see any slagging off, please explain.
Posted by: Derek on 8:04am Sun 3 Aug 08
Adam wrote:
HEROD wrote:
adam wrote: Why if someone has a differnt opinion to you they are thick. I think you have a problem, without the anti lowe saint fans the club will be in real trouble. We all support saints, me, you, guess most people on this site. We need to build bridges not walls. Lowe is a prat but he is our prat, we need the 8000 missing fans back in SMS for home games - get a life.
YEAH Right ! The anti-lowes really helped the club didnt they ?They heralded the worst season in the clubs history.Worse than the Branfoot era and worse than the relegation season. We got our club back-my arse. Investment-**** Fan On The Board-Bullshit Thank god Rupert is back and thank god the Dutch revolution is under way.
T**ser.
Typical anti-lowe knuckle draggers debating skills in acton !
A well thought out argument sir !
Posted by: Artful Dodger, Millbrook on 8:46am Sun 3 Aug 08
SAINTS DIEHARD NUMBER ONE wrote:
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! WE ARE GOING UP! COME ONE U REDS! PLEASE CHANT THIS GUYS FOR EVERY HOME GAME AND U WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE PLAYERS.GOOD LUCK TO THE GREAT CLUB OF ENGLAND. U ARE RISING AGAIN! YES!!!!!!!!!!! I AM CONFIDENT ENOUGH
What medication are you on? Happy pills? Come down to earth at once.