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WARRING families wreaked havoc when they went on the rampage in a Southampton estate.
The two groups of people burst into the road in the middle of the afternoon, armed with crossbows, baseball bats and planks of wood.
Men and women of all ages, including teens and people in their 60s, were involved in the mass brawl which broke out on Bassett's Flowers Estate on Saturday afternoon.
Residents watched on in horror from inside and outside their homes in Violet Road as the fight, which lasted about half and hour, escalated.
At one point the crossbow was fired and the metal bolt was shot into a car parked in the street.
Others were battered about their heads and bodies with the wood and bats, leaving three people in need of hospital treatment.
Women, thought to include mothers and girlfriends of those fighting, were seen running, shouting and screaming as the violence continued.
Police were called to the fracas shortly after 3pm and it is understood paramedics arrived to take the injured parties to Southampton General Hospital.
One man suffered abdominal injuries after being hit with the plank of wood while a second was treated for a gash to his head.
A third person was also taken to hospital with cuts and bruises.
Detectives are today continuing to investigate the violence which is thought to have involved up to 15 people.
Three men in their early 20s have been arrested and were last night being spoken to by police.
Detective Sergeant Dave Jackson, from Bitterne CID, said: "This was a serious violent disorder that happened in the middle of the street, in full view of the public.
"Violence of any nature within a community is completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated. We know that this incident was witnessed by many people who either live in or where in Violet Road on Saturday afternoon and I would urge them to come forward."
Anyone with information is asked to call 0845 045 4545 or the anonymous Crimestoppers line on 0800 555 111.
7:19am Monday 4th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: Disbelief, southampton on 7:28am Mon 4 Aug 08
Unacceptable behaviour - I beg to differ, this is exactly the behaviour that has been sanctioned by a weak liberal society.
Unacceptable behaviour - I beg to differ, this is exactly the behaviour that has been sanctioned by a weak liberal society.
Posted by: Mr Frog, Basset on 7:33am Mon 4 Aug 08
Mmm. Flower Estate's Power...
Mmm. Flower Estate's Power...
Posted by: hmm on 7:35am Mon 4 Aug 08
"about half and hour"
How long?
"about half and hour"
How long?
Posted by: steve on 7:35am Mon 4 Aug 08
still doesn't make it acceptable. Stupid comment. No-one sanctions this kind of behaviour!!
still doesn't make it acceptable. Stupid comment. No-one sanctions this kind of behaviour!!
Posted by: The Star Chamber on 7:37am Mon 4 Aug 08
"being spoken to by police"
What a weak society we live in. They should be interogated, with the help of dripping water.
"being spoken to by police"
What a weak society we live in. They should be interogated, with the help of dripping water.
Posted by: The big question on 7:47am Mon 4 Aug 08
Who won the fight?
Posted by: Sceptic, Waterside on 8:13am Mon 4 Aug 08
Maybe the council should add an 'N' to the street sign.
Maybe the council should add an 'N' to the street sign.
Posted by: Saddened, Southampton on 8:45am Mon 4 Aug 08
What stupid behaviour from adults. No wonder the children are out of control. It is another 4 weeks before they go back to school - help. Everybody involved in the fight should be made to do community work within the area. They should all be named and shamed. No excuses.
What stupid behaviour from adults. No wonder the children are out of control. It is another 4 weeks before they go back to school - help. Everybody involved in the fight should be made to do community work within the area. They should all be named and shamed. No excuses.
Posted by: True Blue, Fareham on 8:47am Mon 4 Aug 08
Two teams in Southampton showing a bit of fight! Any chance of a third?
Two teams in Southampton showing a bit of fight! Any chance of a third?
Posted by: Fred on 8:50am Mon 4 Aug 08
"armed with crossbows"
and
"the crossbow"
Echo talking it up again.
"armed with crossbows"
and
"the crossbow"
Echo talking it up again.
Posted by: KEEP SOUTHAMPTON CLEAN, looking down my nose on 9:19am Mon 4 Aug 08
send them to portsmouth thats where they belong
send them to portsmouth thats where they belong
Posted by: Wills, In The Wilderness on 9:23am Mon 4 Aug 08
Who the hell is armed with a cross bow? Weren't those popular in the middle ages or am I missing something here? Either way totally unacceptable behaviour, you can see why the youth of today act the way they do if this is the kind of moronic parenting they have been brought up with.
Who the hell is armed with a cross bow? Weren't those popular in the middle ages or am I missing something here? Either way totally unacceptable behaviour, you can see why the youth of today act the way they do if this is the kind of moronic parenting they have been brought up with.
Posted by: King Arthur, Winchester on 9:44am Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Wills[/bold] wrote:
Who the hell is armed with a cross bow? Weren't those popular in the middle ages or am I missing something here? Either way totally unacceptable behaviour, you can see why the youth of today act the way they do if this is the kind of moronic parenting they have been brought up with.[/quote] Apparently their trebuchet was out of service due to failing a health and safety inspection.
Wills wrote:
Who the hell is armed with a cross bow? Weren't those popular in the middle ages or am I missing something here? Either way totally unacceptable behaviour, you can see why the youth of today act the way they do if this is the kind of moronic parenting they have been brought up with.
Apparently their trebuchet was out of service due to failing a health and safety inspection.
Posted by: clampit, thorney hill on 9:54am Mon 4 Aug 08
i am so glad my kids and i moved from that estate,we moved coz i didnt think it was the right place to bring up my kids !!!
i am so glad my kids and i moved from that estate,we moved coz i didnt think it was the right place to bring up my kids !!!
Posted by: Amused, Southampton on 9:58am Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Sceptic[/bold] wrote:
Maybe the council should add an \'N\' to the street sign.[/quote] Ha ha ha
Sceptic wrote:
Maybe the council should add an \'N\' to the street sign.
Ha ha ha
Posted by: TS, southampton on 10:11am Mon 4 Aug 08
Totally agree with Clive.Something does not add up.
Totally unacceptable behaviour and these people should be very much monitored from now on and put away if they move their finger again (apart if they do honest work).
I am amazed that the police is just speaking to 3 of them... there are 3 more in hospital to have a word and put some sense and charges onto (or are they the same ones? if this is the case not great policing).
I hope they track the 15 of them + girlfriends etc. and get to police them properly.
I am fed up of normal people being always soft target persecuted by the police and the scum of the society making our life misery always getting off lightly.
Totally agree with Clive.Something does not add up.
Totally unacceptable behaviour and these people should be very much monitored from now on and put away if they move their finger again (apart if they do honest work).
I am amazed that the police is just speaking to 3 of them... there are 3 more in hospital to have a word and put some sense and charges onto (or are they the same ones? if this is the case not great policing).
I hope they track the 15 of them + girlfriends etc. and get to police them properly.
I am fed up of normal people being always soft target persecuted by the police and the scum of the society making our life misery always getting off lightly.
Posted by: John H, Shirley on 11:06am Mon 4 Aug 08
I think they should put them on tv, a big brother, but with families at war. Instead of sending them to hospital they should just be left, stop waisting our resources!
I think they should put them on tv, a big brother, but with families at war. Instead of sending them to hospital they should just be left, stop waisting our resources!
Posted by: bassett born and bred, southampton on 11:09am Mon 4 Aug 08
the good people of bassett of which there are many have been let down by the police for a long time now,these insane scum should be in a zoo,so sad to see whats happening now.[bold]bold[/bold]
the good people of bassett of which there are many have been let down by the police for a long time now,these insane scum should be in a zoo,so sad to see whats happening now.
Posted by: Me, at my desk on 11:10am Mon 4 Aug 08
I live fairly close to Violet Road and I never heard a thing Saturday afternoon! The residents of the Flower Estate are NOT all bad, just a minority, don't tar us all with the same brush as some of the rogues
I live fairly close to Violet Road and I never heard a thing Saturday afternoon! The residents of the Flower Estate are NOT all bad, just a minority, don't tar us all with the same brush as some of the rogues
Posted by: pikey, new forest on 11:13am Mon 4 Aug 08
why should these people be put in a zoo, animals are much better behaved. The whole of Bassett should be bulldozed.
why should these people be put in a zoo, animals are much better behaved. The whole of Bassett should be bulldozed.
Posted by: George W Bush Jr, The White House on 11:20am Mon 4 Aug 08
We here in America would like to offer our brothers in the UK a helping hand in this matter.
As such, we are sending our most prized negotiator.....Alaba
ma Mayor, Mr Jerry Springer. He is highly skilled and experienced in such matters.
America's hearts are with you all!
We here in America would like to offer our brothers in the UK a helping hand in this matter.
As such, we are sending our most prized negotiator.....Alaba
ma Mayor, Mr Jerry Springer. He is highly skilled and experienced in such matters.
America's hearts are with you all!
Posted by: Dave Hunter, New Zealand on 11:20am Mon 4 Aug 08
I used to walk these streets as a kid, and had many friends from the area. After getting married we moved to Merryoak. I used to wander these means streets alone after football matches and long evenings at the pub or club. My point is that "Trouble finds Trouble". Years ago you only had one idiot living in your road, now you possible may have 10 or more. Give these people some descent weapons and let them wipe each other of the face off the earth.
We now live in New Zealand, we get to look at green fields, ice bergs and penguins, a long way from the stabbings, beatings and drug dealing of the council estates in southampton.
I used to walk these streets as a kid, and had many friends from the area. After getting married we moved to Merryoak. I used to wander these means streets alone after football matches and long evenings at the pub or club. My point is that "Trouble finds Trouble". Years ago you only had one idiot living in your road, now you possible may have 10 or more. Give these people some descent weapons and let them wipe each other of the face off the earth.
We now live in New Zealand, we get to look at green fields, ice bergs and penguins, a long way from the stabbings, beatings and drug dealing of the council estates in southampton.
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 11:35am Mon 4 Aug 08
Can anyone explain how you dont see anybody actually playing baseball in our parks but millions of bats have been sold over the years?
Likewise - I gather that we have a few potential crossbow champions in training at the moment although it's not considered as part of the Olympic Games?
'The Flowers' sounds so idyllic doesnt it.
I pity the majority of folk who inhabit the place
Can anyone explain how you dont see anybody actually playing baseball in our parks but millions of bats have been sold over the years?
Likewise - I gather that we have a few potential crossbow champions in training at the moment although it's not considered as part of the Olympic Games?
'The Flowers' sounds so idyllic doesnt it.
I pity the majority of folk who inhabit the place
Posted by: claire, swaythling on 11:38am Mon 4 Aug 08
my friend got was involved in this, she was walking up violet road with her little girl and she got beat up by a man with a plant of wood, another friend of mine was nearly shot by a crossbow and arrow, what a bunch of losers, i hope they get put into prison for this, if they dont, there will be more trouble as there is a lot of angry people, that family are scum and need to get out of bassett.
my friend got was involved in this, she was walking up violet road with her little girl and she got beat up by a man with a plant of wood, another friend of mine was nearly shot by a crossbow and arrow, what a bunch of losers, i hope they get put into prison for this, if they dont, there will be more trouble as there is a lot of angry people, that family are scum and need to get out of bassett.
Posted by: In Fear, Southampton on 11:50am Mon 4 Aug 08
I blame the Mail on Sunday advert where two tribes go to war!
Clearly infuenced this brawl on saturday!
I feel sorry for the elderly that took part in this! I mean just think, they are clearly able to work and so that may cause retirement ages to be of a higher age! lifting a baseball bat and planks of wood at their age!
ooooh betty, that has really taken it out of me, these youngsters today.... put the kettle on! oooh me back... im not as fit as I was in those days!
Im disgusted that I now have to not only fear for my safety when around youths, but now OAP's! what is the world coming to!
I blame the Mail on Sunday advert where two tribes go to war!
Clearly infuenced this brawl on saturday!
I feel sorry for the elderly that took part in this! I mean just think, they are clearly able to work and so that may cause retirement ages to be of a higher age! lifting a baseball bat and planks of wood at their age!
ooooh betty, that has really taken it out of me, these youngsters today.... put the kettle on! oooh me back... im not as fit as I was in those days!
Im disgusted that I now have to not only fear for my safety when around youths, but now OAP's! what is the world coming to!
Posted by: Southampton Pensioner, Outside co-op on 11:57am Mon 4 Aug 08
Make Tea, not war!!
It was never like this in my day, they should've been in the blitz then they'd know hardship.
Bring back the birch...etc...etc...
etc
Make Tea, not war!!
It was never like this in my day, they should've been in the blitz then they'd know hardship.
Bring back the birch...etc...etc...
etc
Posted by: Chav free zone, Swaythling on 12:06pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Violent Road as it was known when i went to school at Glen Eyre. thank god my family moved out at the earliest opportunity. ie 1959.
Violent Road as it was known when i went to school at Glen Eyre. thank god my family moved out at the earliest opportunity. ie 1959.
Posted by: helsbels, bitternpark /canary's on 12:10pm Mon 4 Aug 08
reason for this outburst by mindless indvidals????
pensioners involved .Any of this lot in council housing should be evicted.to a much better place NOT!
reason for this outburst by mindless indvidals????
pensioners involved .Any of this lot in council housing should be evicted.to a much better place NOT!
Posted by: Not Rose Tinted Specs, Southampton on 12:23pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Dave Hunter[/bold] wrote:
I used to walk these streets as a kid, and had many friends from the area. After getting married we moved to Merryoak. I used to wander these means streets alone after football matches and long evenings at the pub or club. My point is that "Trouble finds Trouble". Years ago you only had one idiot living in your road, now you possible may have 10 or more. Give these people some descent weapons and let them wipe each other of the face off the earth. We now live in New Zealand, we get to look at green fields, ice bergs and penguins, a long way from the stabbings, beatings and drug dealing of the council estates in southampton. [/quote] ..er..you seem to have conveniently glossed over the widely commented on epidemic proportions of violent gang crime in New Zealand!
Dave Hunter wrote:
I used to walk these streets as a kid, and had many friends from the area. After getting married we moved to Merryoak. I used to wander these means streets alone after football matches and long evenings at the pub or club. My point is that "Trouble finds Trouble". Years ago you only had one idiot living in your road, now you possible may have 10 or more. Give these people some descent weapons and let them wipe each other of the face off the earth. We now live in New Zealand, we get to look at green fields, ice bergs and penguins, a long way from the stabbings, beatings and drug dealing of the council estates in southampton.
..er..you seem to have conveniently glossed over the widely commented on epidemic proportions of violent gang crime in New Zealand!
Posted by: Same S*** Different Day, Broadlands Rd. on 12:34pm Mon 4 Aug 08
It's been brewing for weeks.
Police surveillence and outsider criminals watching as well, just waiting for this to explode.
As for pensioners, well thats no surprise, once a crim with 'status' they dare not step back and be seen as weak, natural justice the law of the jungle at its best would mean not just loss of face/status...
The good people on the Flowers, yes I know a few of them and they outnumber the chav/crim's 10-1 or more, have to put up with this background of intimidation and violence all year round, the problem isn't easy to solve, where ever the problem families are put they carry on just the same.
One lot I had dealings with were put into a good area, according to social services "so they might learn from others and improve themselves", all they did was start to drag the area down to their level, violent disorder, assault, theft went through the roof, until they picked on the wrong family...
I wonder if thats what happened here???
It's been brewing for weeks.
Police surveillence and outsider criminals watching as well, just waiting for this to explode.
As for pensioners, well thats no surprise, once a crim with 'status' they dare not step back and be seen as weak, natural justice the law of the jungle at its best would mean not just loss of face/status...
The good people on the Flowers, yes I know a few of them and they outnumber the chav/crim's 10-1 or more, have to put up with this background of intimidation and violence all year round, the problem isn't easy to solve, where ever the problem families are put they carry on just the same.
One lot I had dealings with were put into a good area, according to social services "so they might learn from others and improve themselves", all they did was start to drag the area down to their level, violent disorder, assault, theft went through the roof, until they picked on the wrong family...
I wonder if thats what happened here???
Posted by: Finlay, Des Moines, Iowa on 1:14pm Mon 4 Aug 08
...just another day in a lawless city I guess there will be even more to come.
Now when my critics start blasting me for my comments from the US they need to read the article first and then decide who is in a better place now.
Men, women and children warring on the streets, baseball bats, crossbows blah blah blah - Hmmmm how errr 'nice'
A wonderful place to bring your family up I guess
...just another day in a lawless city I guess there will be even more to come.
Now when my critics start blasting me for my comments from the US they need to read the article first and then decide who is in a better place now.
Men, women and children warring on the streets, baseball bats, crossbows blah blah blah - Hmmmm how errr 'nice'
A wonderful place to bring your family up I guess
Posted by: Unhard and unrespected!, Southampton on 1:25pm Mon 4 Aug 08
I would imagine someone "disrespected" someone else, which required the disrespected person, their friends and family to show that they should be respected by the Flowers estate and that they are the "hardest"...Today the Flowers Estae next the World! Idiots.
I would imagine someone "disrespected" someone else, which required the disrespected person, their friends and family to show that they should be respected by the Flowers estate and that they are the "hardest"...Today the Flowers Estae next the World! Idiots.
Posted by: Sceptic, Waterside on 1:33pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Fin, it really is time you got out and made some friends in this Utopia that you call home.
If I was as disillusioned with the UK and it's inhabitants as you constantly claim to be i wouldn't bother with the UK at all...i certainly wouldn't keep looking at UK forums!
I've been reading your posts for a while now and can't help thinking that you protesteth too much...your comments remind me of a line from The Pogues song 'Thousands Are Sailing'about all the Irish who have moved to the US..
[italic]'Postcards we're mailing
Of sky-blue skies and oceans
From rooms that daylight never sees
Where lights dont glow on christmas trees'[/italic] .
Fin, it really is time you got out and made some friends in this Utopia that you call home.
If I was as disillusioned with the UK and it's inhabitants as you constantly claim to be i wouldn't bother with the UK at all...i certainly wouldn't keep looking at UK forums!
I've been reading your posts for a while now and can't help thinking that you protesteth too much...your comments remind me of a line from The Pogues song 'Thousands Are Sailing'about all the Irish who have moved to the US..
'Postcards we're mailing
Of sky-blue skies and oceans
From rooms that daylight never sees
Where lights dont glow on christmas trees' .
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 1:41pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Finlay[/bold] wrote:
...just another day in a lawless city I guess there will be even more to come. Now when my critics start blasting me for my comments from the US they need to read the article first and then decide who is in a better place now. Men, women and children warring on the streets, baseball bats, crossbows blah blah blah - Hmmmm how errr 'nice' A wonderful place to bring your family up I guess[/quote] Finlay often comes blasting in on any thread such as this and wishes to compare the glorious USA with the much reported crime and anti-social behaviour. Most of us are concerned about the high degree of lawlessness and failures by those in charge.
However he posts from Iowa - a fairly nice albeit non descript kind of place and without many of the city connurbations that tend to throw up the scum underclass.
Finlay - how come you dont move to any of the well known hellholes scattered all over America?
They have big problems with the ongoing gang/drugs warfare and there are many well known No-Go areas. The Flowers and associated areas pale into insignificance when looking across the water so perhaps Finlay needs to look at the wider picture instead of banging away on the same soapbox on every opportunity.
Flowers/Thornhill/Mi
llbrook/Townhill Park etc most people are OK and we all know that most problems are caused by problem families who infest any area.
We dont know the full story yet but perhaps the authorities are just sitting back and letting the feuding families sort it from within?
Same with warring druggie/gangtaz in South London. Maybe if they all kill each other then the rest of us can carry on with a normal life?
Trouble is the innocent bystanders or passers by.
Its really getting to be a Mad Max/Clockwork Orange kind of world
Finlay wrote:
...just another day in a lawless city I guess there will be even more to come. Now when my critics start blasting me for my comments from the US they need to read the article first and then decide who is in a better place now. Men, women and children warring on the streets, baseball bats, crossbows blah blah blah - Hmmmm how errr 'nice' A wonderful place to bring your family up I guess
Finlay often comes blasting in on any thread such as this and wishes to compare the glorious USA with the much reported crime and anti-social behaviour. Most of us are concerned about the high degree of lawlessness and failures by those in charge.
However he posts from Iowa - a fairly nice albeit non descript kind of place and without many of the city connurbations that tend to throw up the scum underclass.
Finlay - how come you dont move to any of the well known hellholes scattered all over America?
They have big problems with the ongoing gang/drugs warfare and there are many well known No-Go areas. The Flowers and associated areas pale into insignificance when looking across the water so perhaps Finlay needs to look at the wider picture instead of banging away on the same soapbox on every opportunity.
Flowers/Thornhill/Mi
llbrook/Townhill Park etc most people are OK and we all know that most problems are caused by problem families who infest any area.
We dont know the full story yet but perhaps the authorities are just sitting back and letting the feuding families sort it from within?
Same with warring druggie/gangtaz in South London. Maybe if they all kill each other then the rest of us can carry on with a normal life?
Trouble is the innocent bystanders or passers by.
Its really getting to be a Mad Max/Clockwork Orange kind of world
Posted by: Mr E, Eastleigh on 1:47pm Mon 4 Aug 08
these so caled 'problem' families cost a fortune in damage to the area they live in.
build an estate away from decent folk with 20 foot wall around it , CCTV on the streets and a police station at the enterance, then put all the troublemakers in there.
stop the rediculous policy if trying to make them integrate with the 95% of the population that are law abideing
these so caled 'problem' families cost a fortune in damage to the area they live in.
build an estate away from decent folk with 20 foot wall around it , CCTV on the streets and a police station at the enterance, then put all the troublemakers in there.
stop the rediculous policy if trying to make them integrate with the 95% of the population that are law abideing
Posted by: Ed the Ref, Southampton on 1:48pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Finlay[/bold] wrote:
...just another day in a lawless city I guess there will be even more to come.
Now when my critics start blasting me for my comments from the US they need to read the article first and then decide who is in a better place now.
Men, women and children warring on the streets, baseball bats, crossbows blah blah blah - Hmmmm how errr \'nice\'
A wonderful place to bring your family up I guess[/quote] Finlay wrote:
...just another day in a lawless city I guess there will be even more to come...
Lawless City?!
I think you may be reading too many comics. Warm weather, cpld beer, hot heads... it's hardly surprising a few stripped down to their string vests to compare tattoos (and that's just the women). A community game of rounders that's all it was.
Finlay wrote:
...just another day in a lawless city I guess there will be even more to come.
Now when my critics start blasting me for my comments from the US they need to read the article first and then decide who is in a better place now.
Men, women and children warring on the streets, baseball bats, crossbows blah blah blah - Hmmmm how errr \'nice\'
A wonderful place to bring your family up I guess
Finlay wrote:
...just another day in a lawless city I guess there will be even more to come...
Lawless City?!
I think you may be reading too many comics. Warm weather, cpld beer, hot heads... it's hardly surprising a few stripped down to their string vests to compare tattoos (and that's just the women). A community game of rounders that's all it was.
Posted by: Simon on 1:52pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Southampton Pensioner[/bold] wrote:
Make Tea, not war!! It was never like this in my day, they should've been in the blitz then they'd know hardship. Bring back the birch...etc...etc... etc[/quote] Be a dear and put the kettle on.
Southampton Pensioner wrote:
Make Tea, not war!! It was never like this in my day, they should've been in the blitz then they'd know hardship. Bring back the birch...etc...etc... etc
Be a dear and put the kettle on.
Posted by: Finlay, Des Moines, Iowa on 2:18pm Mon 4 Aug 08
... Your all vermin and I'm so glad I'm well shot of all the inbred chav scum that are the people of Southampton!
... Your all vermin and I'm so glad I'm well shot of all the inbred chav scum that are the people of Southampton!
Posted by: Sceptic, Waterside...'and lovin' it'! on 2:22pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Finlay, Des Moines, Iowa[/bold] wrote:
... Your all vermin and I'm so glad I'm well shot of all the inbred chav scum that are the people of Southampton![/quote] Could someone pop Finlays' stars and stripes rattle back in his pram please?
Thanks
Finlay, Des Moines, Iowa wrote:
... Your all vermin and I'm so glad I'm well shot of all the inbred chav scum that are the people of Southampton!
Could someone pop Finlays' stars and stripes rattle back in his pram please?
Thanks
Posted by: Gordon of The Gardens, Bitterne on 2:29pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Nice to see the investment in your education wasn't a complete waste of time..
It's so rewarding to see that you're almost getting the words in the correct order, as well as making improvements with the spelling,,, well done; now fek off and let us enjoy the fact that we're not in Iowa.
Nice to see the investment in your education wasn't a complete waste of time..
It's so rewarding to see that you're almost getting the words in the correct order, as well as making improvements with the spelling,,, well done; now fek off and let us enjoy the fact that we're not in Iowa.
Posted by: John on 2:31pm Mon 4 Aug 08
News Headlines from the Des Moines Register (local news website from Finlay's town): Young suspects in Des Moines Botanical Center fire released to parents; Sound of breaking glass precedes Des Moines carjacking; Woman allegedly stabs four men in fight; Fort Dodge shooting tied to gun thefts; Murder of father of 6 was random, police say.
Your comments please Finlay!!!
News Headlines from the Des Moines Register (local news website from Finlay's town): Young suspects in Des Moines Botanical Center fire released to parents; Sound of breaking glass precedes Des Moines carjacking; Woman allegedly stabs four men in fight; Fort Dodge shooting tied to gun thefts; Murder of father of 6 was random, police say.
Your comments please Finlay!!!
Posted by: norman tebbitt, gate inn bar on 2:33pm Mon 4 Aug 08
years of liberal wish washy ,nicey nicey treatment has produced these knuckle dragging morons,cant judge the poor dears,when i was young i got on my bike and got a life,such is england in the 21st century.[bold]bold[/bold]
years of liberal wish washy ,nicey nicey treatment has produced these knuckle dragging morons,cant judge the poor dears,when i was young i got on my bike and got a life,such is england in the 21st century.
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 2:36pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Att: Finlay the pseudo Yank. Taken from an Iowa chatsite.
"Waterloo does have a bad reputation in Iowa and it is somewhat deserved. As far as Iowa is concerned there is a tad bit more crime than average, most notably on the east side of the Cedar River. The west side of Waterloo is your normal mid-sized Iowa city. Again this is all relative to Iowa, so Waterloo isn't a ghetto infested city, it's just more "urban" and diverse than other places in Iowa"
Att: Finlay the pseudo Yank. Taken from an Iowa chatsite.
"Waterloo does have a bad reputation in Iowa and it is somewhat deserved. As far as Iowa is concerned there is a tad bit more crime than average, most notably on the east side of the Cedar River. The west side of Waterloo is your normal mid-sized Iowa city. Again this is all relative to Iowa, so Waterloo isn't a ghetto infested city, it's just more "urban" and diverse than other places in Iowa"
Posted by: one who was involved on 2:36pm Mon 4 Aug 08
the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!!
the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Andy, In My Pants on 2:38pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Why is everyone so quick to judge the yoof of today? The poor little lambs have nothing better to do because our criminally inept council refuse to build an ice rink where they could congregate.
However, the OAPS should know better. It's time to legalise euthanasia for the coffin dodgers. This would help the economy as well by reducing the drain on the NHS and the pension coffers.
Everything is about cause and effect... this was obviously a riot started by some crusty old folks who were bored because the bingo was closed.
The poor much maligned yoof try to restore order with the judicious use of baseball bats (which they cannot use to play baseball because the council insists on concreting over the parks for new houses and even more shopping centres) and a crossbow.
At least the yoofs were partaking in some exercise - something else they get accused of shirking.
Ban the Blue Rinse Brigade - [bold]long live the yoof[/bold] (well, until they themselves become old and decrepid and become a burden to society, then they should be summarily executed.
Why is everyone so quick to judge the yoof of today? The poor little lambs have nothing better to do because our criminally inept council refuse to build an ice rink where they could congregate.
However, the OAPS should know better. It's time to legalise euthanasia for the coffin dodgers. This would help the economy as well by reducing the drain on the NHS and the pension coffers.
Everything is about cause and effect... this was obviously a riot started by some crusty old folks who were bored because the bingo was closed.
The poor much maligned yoof try to restore order with the judicious use of baseball bats (which they cannot use to play baseball because the council insists on concreting over the parks for new houses and even more shopping centres) and a crossbow.
At least the yoofs were partaking in some exercise - something else they get accused of shirking.
Ban the Blue Rinse Brigade -
long live the yoof (well, until they themselves become old and decrepid and become a burden to society, then they should be summarily executed.
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 2:39pm Mon 4 Aug 08
PS
I have a pal who actually lives in Des Moines so have a fairly good idea of what it's like.
Or maybe Finlay IS in Redbridge as surmised above! Maybe an apprentice troll?
PS
I have a pal who actually lives in Des Moines so have a fairly good idea of what it's like.
Or maybe Finlay IS in Redbridge as surmised above! Maybe an apprentice troll?
Posted by: one what was not involved on 2:41pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]one who was involved[/bold] wrote:
the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] Is your English and use of grammar always this good?
one who was involved wrote:
the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!!
Is your English and use of grammar always this good?
Posted by: Ron and Pam from Badidallyboing, Wideridaho on 2:47pm Mon 4 Aug 08
We know Finlay....What a guy!
We know Finlay....What a guy!
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 2:47pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]one what was not involved[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]one who was involved[/bold] wrote: the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] Is your English and use of grammar always this good?[/quote] Is your Holier Than Thou condescending pedantic irrelevant posturing always this good?
Seems that the young lady is only offering an insight and should be commended - not condemned.
one what was not involved wrote:
one who was involved wrote: the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!!
Is your English and use of grammar always this good?
Is your Holier Than Thou condescending pedantic irrelevant posturing always this good?
Seems that the young lady is only offering an insight and should be commended - not condemned.
Posted by: Anon, eastleigh on 2:54pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Speaking from experience the police do nothing constructive in these instances even when provided with hard evidence.
It does not surprise me at all that people take action in to their own hands, not that it is right. I still don’t understand why as an authority we have to provide housing for these families when they behave so badly. Until you have had one of these families living near you its hard to imagine just how horrible they make life for everyone.
Speaking from experience the police do nothing constructive in these instances even when provided with hard evidence.
It does not surprise me at all that people take action in to their own hands, not that it is right. I still don’t understand why as an authority we have to provide housing for these families when they behave so badly. Until you have had one of these families living near you its hard to imagine just how horrible they make life for everyone.
Posted by: Know it all, Southampton on 2:56pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate?
I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary's, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent's Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes.
Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don't live in a council estate.
Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don't speak properly either, they always say, "I don't know nothing" and "Innit." Why?
I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail!
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate?
I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary's, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent's Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes.
Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don't live in a council estate.
Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don't speak properly either, they always say, "I don't know nothing" and "Innit." Why?
I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail!
Posted by: Doofus on 2:56pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]King Mush[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]one what was not involved[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]one who was involved[/bold] wrote: the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] Is your English and use of grammar always this good?[/quote] Is your Holier Than Thou condescending pedantic irrelevant posturing always this good? Seems that the young lady is only offering an insight and should be commended - not condemned.[/quote] Fool.
Quote: ...viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten... Unquote
Possibly not a young lady?
Numpty!
King Mush wrote:
one what was not involved wrote: one who was involved wrote: the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!!
Is your English and use of grammar always this good?
Is your Holier Than Thou condescending pedantic irrelevant posturing always this good? Seems that the young lady is only offering an insight and should be commended - not condemned.
Fool.
Quote: ...viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten... Unquote
Possibly not a young lady?
Numpty!
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 3:04pm Mon 4 Aug 08
lol
To be honest - I didnt really scrutinise the original post - just skimmed over it
Mind you - many girls have 'girlfriends' nudge nudge wink wink.
Yours Numptily
KM
lol
To be honest - I didnt really scrutinise the original post - just skimmed over it
Mind you - many girls have 'girlfriends' nudge nudge wink wink.
Yours Numptily
KM
Posted by: anon on 3:08pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote:
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary's, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent's Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don't live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don't speak properly either, they always say, "I don't know nothing" and "Innit." Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail![/quote] WUM!
Know it all wrote:
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary's, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent's Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don't live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don't speak properly either, they always say, "I don't know nothing" and "Innit." Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail!
WUM!
Posted by: c on 3:08pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
Speaking from experience the police do nothing constructive in these instances even when provided with hard evidence.
It does not surprise me at all that people take action in to their own hands, not that it is right. I still don’t understand why as an authority we have to provide housing for these families when they behave so badly. Until you have had one of these families living near you its hard to imagine just how horrible they make life for everyone.
[/quote] Yeah its not right that innocent people have to put up with this type of thing, but when you live on an estate or anywhere for that matter, people do have disputes, arguments, if the police do nothing then sometimes people have to sort it themselves.
Anon wrote:
Speaking from experience the police do nothing constructive in these instances even when provided with hard evidence.
It does not surprise me at all that people take action in to their own hands, not that it is right. I still don’t understand why as an authority we have to provide housing for these families when they behave so badly. Until you have had one of these families living near you its hard to imagine just how horrible they make life for everyone.
Yeah its not right that innocent people have to put up with this type of thing, but when you live on an estate or anywhere for that matter, people do have disputes, arguments, if the police do nothing then sometimes people have to sort it themselves.
Posted by: Arthur, Southampton on 3:17pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]anon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote:
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary's, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent's Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don't live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don't speak properly either, they always say, "I don't know nothing" and "Innit." Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail![/quote] WUM![/quote] Did we miss your appearance on the Jeremy Kyle Show?
anon wrote:
Know it all wrote:
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary's, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent's Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don't live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don't speak properly either, they always say, "I don't know nothing" and "Innit." Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail!
WUM!
Did we miss your appearance on the Jeremy Kyle Show?
Posted by: Know it all, Southampton on 3:24pm Mon 4 Aug 08
What does "WUM" mean?
Posted by: Giant on 3:29pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Cross-bow!! Holy moly! Where do you buy one of those from nowadays! They must have robbed a Norman Soldier or Robin Hood to get one of those bad boys.
Cross-bow!! Holy moly! Where do you buy one of those from nowadays! They must have robbed a Norman Soldier or Robin Hood to get one of those bad boys.
Posted by: Southampton pensioner, Watching Countdown on 3:31pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote:
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary\'s, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent\'s Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don\'t live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don\'t speak properly either, they always say, \"I don\'t know nothing\" and \"Innit.\" Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail![/quote] Well said young man/lady.
It's always baffled me about the upturned trike and mattress in the front garden. Sometimes they have a supermarket trolley there too and why do all (male) chavs like to walk around without their shirts on displaying their unimpressive tattoos and weedy torso's - quite remarkable indeed!
Know it all wrote:
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary\'s, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent\'s Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don\'t live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don\'t speak properly either, they always say, \"I don\'t know nothing\" and \"Innit.\" Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail!
Well said young man/lady.
It's always baffled me about the upturned trike and mattress in the front garden. Sometimes they have a supermarket trolley there too and why do all (male) chavs like to walk around without their shirts on displaying their unimpressive tattoos and weedy torso's - quite remarkable indeed!
Posted by: Do Ron Ron, Southampton on 3:32pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote:
What does "WUM" mean?[/quote] Wake Up Moron
Wouldn't Use Mine
or
Wind Up Merchant.
You can choose.
Know it all wrote:
What does "WUM" mean?
Wake Up Moron
Wouldn't Use Mine
or
Wind Up Merchant.
You can choose.
Posted by: ex so'ton, Abingdon on 3:33pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Why couldn't they all have waited for the football season to start, or was this just a practice friendly?
Why couldn't they all have waited for the football season to start, or was this just a practice friendly?
Posted by: Know it all, Southampton on 3:36pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Southampton pensioner[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote: Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary\'s, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent\'s Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don\'t live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don\'t speak properly either, they always say, \"I don\'t know nothing\" and \"Innit.\" Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail![/quote] Well said young man/lady. It's always baffled me about the upturned trike and mattress in the front garden. Sometimes they have a supermarket trolley there too and why do all (male) chavs like to walk around without their shirts on displaying their unimpressive tattoos and weedy torso's - quite remarkable indeed! [/quote] Forgot about those aspects, well said! I know what WUM means now also.
Southampton pensioner wrote:
Know it all wrote: Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary\'s, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent\'s Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don\'t live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don\'t speak properly either, they always say, \"I don\'t know nothing\" and \"Innit.\" Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail!
Well said young man/lady. It's always baffled me about the upturned trike and mattress in the front garden. Sometimes they have a supermarket trolley there too and why do all (male) chavs like to walk around without their shirts on displaying their unimpressive tattoos and weedy torso's - quite remarkable indeed!
Forgot about those aspects, well said! I know what WUM means now also.
Posted by: Know it all, Southampton on 3:38pm Mon 4 Aug 08
I wonder what a "Wind up merchant" is? I think it must be someone that helps in the sale and distribution of watches or such like. Emmmmmm!
I wonder what a "Wind up merchant" is? I think it must be someone that helps in the sale and distribution of watches or such like. Emmmmmm!
Posted by: I was dere init, Flowerz Boy Cru on 3:50pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Yo, i waz dere last yestrda, it waz ardcore my face got billed with a 2x9 blud, i lost a eye but god gave me oder, i smashed some billin on a twallen. He merced me twice i bludded his mandem with a clarky cat. My mate got stepple jacked over a triple hammer, jessop, jessop, jessop. I didnt wan ma arms to feel like a messy fortnight in a bad balloN!!!! braaaap.
Blud out
Yo, i waz dere last yestrda, it waz ardcore my face got billed with a 2x9 blud, i lost a eye but god gave me oder, i smashed some billin on a twallen. He merced me twice i bludded his mandem with a clarky cat. My mate got stepple jacked over a triple hammer, jessop, jessop, jessop. I didnt wan ma arms to feel like a messy fortnight in a bad balloN!!!! braaaap.
Blud out
Posted by: c on 3:54pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]I was dere init[/bold] wrote:
Yo, i waz dere last yestrda, it waz ardcore my face got billed with a 2x9 blud, i lost a eye but god gave me oder, i smashed some billin on a twallen. He merced me twice i bludded his mandem with a clarky cat. My mate got stepple jacked over a triple hammer, jessop, jessop, jessop. I didnt wan ma arms to feel like a messy fortnight in a bad balloN!!!! braaaap.
Blud out[/quote] Can you write that in English as well please.
I was dere init wrote:
Yo, i waz dere last yestrda, it waz ardcore my face got billed with a 2x9 blud, i lost a eye but god gave me oder, i smashed some billin on a twallen. He merced me twice i bludded his mandem with a clarky cat. My mate got stepple jacked over a triple hammer, jessop, jessop, jessop. I didnt wan ma arms to feel like a messy fortnight in a bad balloN!!!! braaaap.
Blud out
Can you write that in English as well please.
Posted by: Andy, In My Pants on 3:56pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Giamt
Not only can you buy one - it is legal to kill a Welshman with a crossbow - however it has to be within the ancient city walls (can't remember which town/city... Chester or Shrewsbury springs to mind) and it has to be on a certain day (again, cannot truly remember but it's something like a Tuesday afternoon).
It's an ancient medieval law that has never been removed... though to be fair, the modern laws on murder might outweigh your arguments in court.
Saying that with todays liberal pansies, you would be more likely to get a longer sentence for racial discrimination against the Welshman than you would for actually killing the sheep loving Taff.
Giamt
Not only can you buy one - it is legal to kill a Welshman with a crossbow - however it has to be within the ancient city walls (can't remember which town/city... Chester or Shrewsbury springs to mind) and it has to be on a certain day (again, cannot truly remember but it's something like a Tuesday afternoon).
It's an ancient medieval law that has never been removed... though to be fair, the modern laws on murder might outweigh your arguments in court.
Saying that with todays liberal pansies, you would be more likely to get a longer sentence for racial discrimination against the Welshman than you would for actually killing the sheep loving Taff.
Posted by: Know it all, Southampton on 3:56pm Mon 4 Aug 08
"Southampton Pensioner....," I like your style!
"Southampton Pensioner....," I like your style!
Posted by: Know it all, Southampton on 3:58pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]I was dere init[/bold] wrote:
Yo, i waz dere last yestrda, it waz ardcore my face got billed with a 2x9 blud, i lost a eye but god gave me oder, i smashed some billin on a twallen. He merced me twice i bludded his mandem with a clarky cat. My mate got stepple jacked over a triple hammer, jessop, jessop, jessop. I didnt wan ma arms to feel like a messy fortnight in a bad balloN!!!! braaaap. Blud out[/quote] Poor thing's mentally ill, Bless! I wonder if his care worker knows hes using a computer without supervision?
I was dere init wrote:
Yo, i waz dere last yestrda, it waz ardcore my face got billed with a 2x9 blud, i lost a eye but god gave me oder, i smashed some billin on a twallen. He merced me twice i bludded his mandem with a clarky cat. My mate got stepple jacked over a triple hammer, jessop, jessop, jessop. I didnt wan ma arms to feel like a messy fortnight in a bad balloN!!!! braaaap. Blud out
Poor thing's mentally ill, Bless! I wonder if his care worker knows hes using a computer without supervision?
Posted by: Steve Grunt on 4:00pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote:
Giamt Not only can you buy one - it is legal to kill a Welshman with a crossbow - however it has to be within the ancient city walls (can't remember which town/city... Chester or Shrewsbury springs to mind) and it has to be on a certain day (again, cannot truly remember but it's something like a Tuesday afternoon). It's an ancient medieval law that has never been removed... though to be fair, the modern laws on murder might outweigh your arguments in court. Saying that with todays liberal pansies, you would be more likely to get a longer sentence for racial discrimination against the Welshman than you would for actually killing the sheep loving Taff.[/quote] Yeah its a by-law of Norwich which doesnt mean jack anymore
Andy wrote:
Giamt Not only can you buy one - it is legal to kill a Welshman with a crossbow - however it has to be within the ancient city walls (can't remember which town/city... Chester or Shrewsbury springs to mind) and it has to be on a certain day (again, cannot truly remember but it's something like a Tuesday afternoon). It's an ancient medieval law that has never been removed... though to be fair, the modern laws on murder might outweigh your arguments in court. Saying that with todays liberal pansies, you would be more likely to get a longer sentence for racial discrimination against the Welshman than you would for actually killing the sheep loving Taff.
Yeah its a by-law of Norwich which doesnt mean jack anymore
Posted by: Andy, In My Pants on 4:09pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Just been trawling the web (as I don't do any work according to my neighbour)... many versions of the bow and arrow and killing of someone exist... I'm sure not all are true... The one I have just found which specifically states the use of a Cross Bow and not a longbow is:
[quote]It says that a Welshman on the Welsh side is perfectly safe from the law and a charge of murder if he shoots an Englishman dead on the English side of the river as long as it is with a crossbow and after sundown![/quote]
Still desperately looking for one that states you can kill a neighbour who is a South African crook with a cross bow (hell, a sharpened carrot will do), not bothered about specific days if anyone can point me in the right direction.
Much obliged
Just been trawling the web (as I don't do any work according to my neighbour)... many versions of the bow and arrow and killing of someone exist... I'm sure not all are true... The one I have just found which specifically states the use of a Cross Bow and not a longbow is:
It says that a Welshman on the Welsh side is perfectly safe from the law and a charge of murder if he shoots an Englishman dead on the English side of the river as long as it is with a crossbow and after sundown!
Still desperately looking for one that states you can kill a neighbour who is a South African crook with a cross bow (hell, a sharpened carrot will do), not bothered about specific days if anyone can point me in the right direction.
Much obliged
Posted by: JAY, Southampton on 4:18pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Just another day in the flower roads Estate
Just another day in the flower roads Estate
Posted by: Southampton Pensioner, Watching 'Enter the Dragon' on 4:25pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote:
"Southampton Pensioner....," I like your style![/quote] My style? You can call it the art of fighting, without fighting!
It is like a finger pointing away to the moon...Don't concentrate on the finger or you'll miss all that heavenly glory! you understand?
Know it all wrote:
"Southampton Pensioner....," I like your style!
My style? You can call it the art of fighting, without fighting!
It is like a finger pointing away to the moon...Don't concentrate on the finger or you'll miss all that heavenly glory! you understand?
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 4:33pm Mon 4 Aug 08
know it all,you must of lead a very sheltered life.testwood and totton has seen some very big fights in the pass,has with the other places you was on about.
i also like to inform you kendel ave is in millbrook hous est redbridge not millbrook,and regents park is part of millbrook.
know it all,you must of lead a very sheltered life.testwood and totton has seen some very big fights in the pass,has with the other places you was on about.
i also like to inform you kendel ave is in millbrook hous est redbridge not millbrook,and regents park is part of millbrook.
Posted by: know nothing on 4:35pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote:
What does "WUM" mean?[/quote] Not much of a know-it-all are ya?
Know it all wrote:
What does "WUM" mean?
Not much of a know-it-all are ya?
Posted by: Know it all, Southampton on 4:38pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Southampton Pensioner[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote: "Southampton Pensioner....," I like your style![/quote] My style? You can call it the art of fighting, without fighting! It is like a finger pointing away to the moon...Don't concentrate on the finger or you'll miss all that heavenly glory! you understand?[/quote] Oh yes, I do understand!
Southampton Pensioner wrote:
Know it all wrote: "Southampton Pensioner....," I like your style!
My style? You can call it the art of fighting, without fighting! It is like a finger pointing away to the moon...Don't concentrate on the finger or you'll miss all that heavenly glory! you understand?
Oh yes, I do understand!
Posted by: We're not worthy on 4:40pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
know it all,you must of lead a very sheltered life.testwood and totton has seen some very big fights in the pass,has with the other places you was on about. i also like to inform you kendel ave is in millbrook hous est redbridge not millbrook,and regents park is part of millbrook.[/quote] Well done Southy the fountain of all knowledge as usual.
You truely (sic) are of the wisest order
southy wrote:
know it all,you must of lead a very sheltered life.testwood and totton has seen some very big fights in the pass,has with the other places you was on about. i also like to inform you kendel ave is in millbrook hous est redbridge not millbrook,and regents park is part of millbrook.
Well done Southy the fountain of all knowledge as usual.
You truely (sic) are of the wisest order
Posted by: Know it all, Southampton on 4:40pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]know nothing[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote: What does \"WUM\" mean?[/quote] Not much of a know-it-all are ya?[/quote] If you read my post after asking you would'nt make that comment would you? As, according to your name you know nothing, then of course you don't know!
know nothing wrote:
Know it all wrote: What does \"WUM\" mean?
Not much of a know-it-all are ya?
If you read my post after asking you would'nt make that comment would you? As, according to your name you know nothing, then of course you don't know!
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 4:47pm Mon 4 Aug 08
We're not worthy not just lived long enough to know those sort of things.and all ways lived in the area.
We're not worthy not just lived long enough to know those sort of things.and all ways lived in the area.
Posted by: We're not worthy on 4:51pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
We're not worthy not just lived long enough to know those sort of things.and all ways lived in the area.[/quote] Seriously man, you should write a book on your Southampton knowledge and experiences.
Just one thing though - make sure you get someone to proof read it first.
southy wrote:
We're not worthy not just lived long enough to know those sort of things.and all ways lived in the area.
Seriously man, you should write a book on your Southampton knowledge and experiences.
Just one thing though - make sure you get someone to proof read it first.
Posted by: Know it all, Southampton on 4:52pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
know it all,you must of lead a very sheltered life.testwood and totton has seen some very big fights in the pass,has with the other places you was on about. i also like to inform you kendel ave is in millbrook hous est redbridge not millbrook,and regents park is part of millbrook.[/quote] Actually you're wrong, look at my name, I really do know it all.
There have been no recorded mass fights in the Testwood area (Shakespeare Drive area), admittedly there is a small council house area there but never any mass fights. Totton has never had any mass fights since 1904. This was when a large group from Winsor (in the New Forest) met with a large group of Totton men and a large fight ensued. I am led to believe that several men were actually killed.
As for Kendal Avenue, it is a large road which stretches from the top of Wimpson Lane through to the other end of it, a semi circle if you will. Most of this area, and the area of the large fight that I was writing about was on the Millbrook site. However; thank you for reminding me of the large fight outside the shops in Kendal Avenue opposite Cuckmere Lane, you're right there was also a large fight there that I witnessed in 2002 at approximately 19.00hrs. I had forgotten that one, thank you. That part of Kendal Avenue is regarded as Redbridge by some but not all residents, so I suspect that's the area you're writing about.
As for Regents Park, that is no longer part of Millbrook. However you may like to know that originally it was. In fact the old mill that gave Millbrook it's name was situated by Tannersbrook School, thus the brook now being named Tanners.
Thought you might like to know things by "Know it all," like I said, "I know all things," so always question me, I love a challenge, but I'm yet to be wrong! Keep up the errors!
southy wrote:
know it all,you must of lead a very sheltered life.testwood and totton has seen some very big fights in the pass,has with the other places you was on about. i also like to inform you kendel ave is in millbrook hous est redbridge not millbrook,and regents park is part of millbrook.
Actually you're wrong, look at my name, I really do know it all.
There have been no recorded mass fights in the Testwood area (Shakespeare Drive area), admittedly there is a small council house area there but never any mass fights. Totton has never had any mass fights since 1904. This was when a large group from Winsor (in the New Forest) met with a large group of Totton men and a large fight ensued. I am led to believe that several men were actually killed.
As for Kendal Avenue, it is a large road which stretches from the top of Wimpson Lane through to the other end of it, a semi circle if you will. Most of this area, and the area of the large fight that I was writing about was on the Millbrook site. However; thank you for reminding me of the large fight outside the shops in Kendal Avenue opposite Cuckmere Lane, you're right there was also a large fight there that I witnessed in 2002 at approximately 19.00hrs. I had forgotten that one, thank you. That part of Kendal Avenue is regarded as Redbridge by some but not all residents, so I suspect that's the area you're writing about.
As for Regents Park, that is no longer part of Millbrook. However you may like to know that originally it was. In fact the old mill that gave Millbrook it's name was situated by Tannersbrook School, thus the brook now being named Tanners.
Thought you might like to know things by "Know it all," like I said, "I know all things," so always question me, I love a challenge, but I'm yet to be wrong! Keep up the errors!
Posted by: Southampton Pensioner, Getting a brew on 4:57pm Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Southampton Pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Know it all[/bold] wrote: "Southampton Pensioner....," I like your style![/quote] My style? You can call it the art of fighting, without fighting! It is like a finger pointing away to the moon...Don't concentrate on the finger or you'll miss all that heavenly glory! you understand?[/quote] Oh yes, I do understand![/quote] Excellent. Until tomorrow's topic then my WUM friends, I bid you farewell!!
Right, where's that kettle....
Know it all wrote:
Southampton Pensioner wrote: Know it all wrote: "Southampton Pensioner....," I like your style!
My style? You can call it the art of fighting, without fighting! It is like a finger pointing away to the moon...Don't concentrate on the finger or you'll miss all that heavenly glory! you understand?
Oh yes, I do understand!
Excellent. Until tomorrow's topic then my WUM friends, I bid you farewell!!
Right, where's that kettle....
