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CRUISE liner passengers arriving in Southampton could be left stranded at the docks as a war between rival taxi firms threatens to erupt.
Taxi trade leaders say the situation is like a "tinder box" and last night called for emergency talks with port bosses. They say drivers fear for their livelihoods and that "it would not take much" for a blockade or boycott to bring chaos to the docks.
The row centres on proposals to allow private hire cabs to pick up passengers disembarking at Southampton.
Superliners
Currently, only hackney carriage cabs, those that can be hailed in the street, operate at the city's three cruise terminals.
Port owner Associated British Ports (ABP) wants to allow in more taxis because of the boom in superliners, which can carry up to 4,000 passengers, calling at Southampton.
ABP is considering a number of solutions, including a proposal from the owner of private hire firm West Quay Cars to allow all Southampton's cabs open access to the terminals.
Rank marshals inside the terminals would co-ordinate the scheme, to be funded by a £1 surcharge paid by the passenger.
The scheme, dubbed Comb-ined Taxis of Southampton, is the brainchild of West Quay Cars boss Lee Haynes, who has set out his plan in a letter posted to more than 1,000 drivers.
Mr Haynes said the operation would be run totally independently and that he was simply trying to improve the service received by tourists arriving in Southampton.
He told the Daily Echo: "There are people who spend £8,000 on their annual holiday and then are being greeted with guys in flip-flops and football shorts and they are being charged £20 to go to the airport - I don't want people to have that impression of my city. It's something I'm passionate about. I'm trying to do something for the whole of the trade, but everyone is against me because they are not getting the right information."
Taxi trade representatives are angry at a lack of consultation and say they have been "left in the dark" by ABP.
Transport and General Workers' Union cab section chairman Perry McMillan agreed there had been an increase in passenger numbers, but said the trade as a whole should be involved in developing a solution. He said: "We don't have a problem with a private hire car making a general booking, but what we do object to is somebody who sees an opportunity to expand their own company with no benefit to the docks or passengers.
"If we do not get around the table with ABP, or if West Quay Cars are given a free hand, then there will be a lot of drivers who will be frightened for their livelihoods in what is a very difficult time to earn a living.
"If that happens, then I think there will be a rise in militancy among taxi drivers."
Private land
Clive Johnson, chairman of the Southampton Taxi Consult-ative Council and Radio Taxis, said he had been forced to quell talk of industrial action.
"It's a tinder box and at this present moment I have got control of it, but if they (ABP) do not sit down and talk to us it would not take much," he said.
"We want to show ABP that the main body of the trade is there to help them."
An ABP spokesman said it was committed to undertaking a full consultation process with the trade, but would not comment on threats of industrial action.
Ian Hall, chairman of the Southampton Hackney Assoc-iation, said there should be no talk of militant action.
"The docks are on private land owned by ABP and they can do whatever they want," Mr Hall said.
10:36am Tuesday 5th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: Fred on 11:14am Tue 5 Aug 08
I realised the other day the upside of the recession. Had to catch a cab and the driver was polite. The return cab arrived within two minutes of my call - again the driver was polite.
This was in Portsmouth and I even pointed out I was from Southampton!
I realised the other day the upside of the recession. Had to catch a cab and the driver was polite. The return cab arrived within two minutes of my call - again the driver was polite.
This was in Portsmouth and I even pointed out I was from Southampton!
Posted by: Andrew, Southampton on 11:23am Tue 5 Aug 08
They want to start by teaching these 'supposed' professional drivers how to drive for a start.
These taxi drivers cause mayhem every Friday within the docks.
They want to start by teaching these 'supposed' professional drivers how to drive for a start.
These taxi drivers cause mayhem every Friday within the docks.
Posted by: rmw, Southampton on 12:08pm Tue 5 Aug 08
Those Taxi drivers are agitated all the time. I drove in to the docks at 10.30am the other Saturday and briefly slowed my car to ask the Security Guard on gate 10 a quick question. A West Quay taxi driver behind beeped his horn and showed his annoyance by flapping his arms about! What an idiot!
Those Taxi drivers are agitated all the time. I drove in to the docks at 10.30am the other Saturday and briefly slowed my car to ask the Security Guard on gate 10 a quick question. A West Quay taxi driver behind beeped his horn and showed his annoyance by flapping his arms about! What an idiot!
Posted by: mike, southampton on 12:10pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
They want to start by teaching these 'supposed' professional drivers how to drive for a start. These taxi drivers cause mayhem every Friday within the docks.[/quote] must be them west quay cars then.
Andrew wrote:
They want to start by teaching these 'supposed' professional drivers how to drive for a start. These taxi drivers cause mayhem every Friday within the docks.
must be them west quay cars then.
Posted by: Tom, Chelmsford on 12:22pm Tue 5 Aug 08
A holiday begins when you leave your house to when you arrive back at it. The experience for the customer should be as good as possible - after all people (tourists) make up their minds on a place i.e. Southampton in the first few minutes. The docks are not exactly the most pleasing to the eye so at least for the tourist receiving a nice comfortable trip from the dock to the airport or train station would help forge a better opinion of Southampton.
A holiday begins when you leave your house to when you arrive back at it. The experience for the customer should be as good as possible - after all people (tourists) make up their minds on a place i.e. Southampton in the first few minutes. The docks are not exactly the most pleasing to the eye so at least for the tourist receiving a nice comfortable trip from the dock to the airport or train station would help forge a better opinion of Southampton.
Posted by: Becky, Soton on 12:28pm Tue 5 Aug 08
I wanna know how come a hackney cab at 3am will cost me anywhere between £18-25, when West Quay cabs do exactly the same route, same time, yet manage to be endlessly more polite and prompt and only charge me £12-15!!!
I wanna know how come a hackney cab at 3am will cost me anywhere between £18-25, when West Quay cabs do exactly the same route, same time, yet manage to be endlessly more polite and prompt and only charge me £12-15!!!
Posted by: mike, soton on 1:04pm Tue 5 Aug 08
I want to know why West Quay charge 25% more than any other Taxi Firm during the day,they also have a minimum charge. So that means if the passengers from the ships use West Quay cars, they will not be receiving the cheapest option.Is this what A B P and the council want.
I want to know why West Quay charge 25% more than any other Taxi Firm during the day,they also have a minimum charge. So that means if the passengers from the ships use West Quay cars, they will not be receiving the cheapest option.Is this what A B P and the council want.
Posted by: emma, southampton on 1:08pm Tue 5 Aug 08
I would rather use a West Quay Car any day, staff are polite and cars are of a good standard.
I would rather use a West Quay Car any day, staff are polite and cars are of a good standard.
Posted by: boycott hackney, cabs on 1:13pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Becky[/bold] wrote:
I wanna know how come a hackney cab at 3am will cost me anywhere between £18-25, when West Quay cabs do exactly the same route, same time, yet manage to be endlessly more polite and prompt and only charge me £12-15!!![/quote] I agree. I recently used a hackney cab. It was 2.30am, I was on my own. The driver was really rude to me and when I picked him up on it, he threw me out of the taxi because he didnt like my attitude...his words...(I can assure you he was the one with the attitude). I think kicking a woman out on her own is disgusting at that time of night. I looked for a name card so I could complain but there was not one visable. I will NEVER use them again. Expensive and rude
Becky wrote:
I wanna know how come a hackney cab at 3am will cost me anywhere between £18-25, when West Quay cabs do exactly the same route, same time, yet manage to be endlessly more polite and prompt and only charge me £12-15!!!
I agree. I recently used a hackney cab. It was 2.30am, I was on my own. The driver was really rude to me and when I picked him up on it, he threw me out of the taxi because he didnt like my attitude...his words...(I can assure you he was the one with the attitude). I think kicking a woman out on her own is disgusting at that time of night. I looked for a name card so I could complain but there was not one visable. I will NEVER use them again. Expensive and rude
Posted by: julez, empress road + wot! on 1:18pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Becky[/bold] wrote:
I wanna know how come a hackney cab at 3am will cost me anywhere between £18-25, when West Quay cabs do exactly the same route, same time, yet manage to be endlessly more polite and prompt and only charge me £12-15!!![/quote] cuz ya hav 2 book the west quay drivaz but ya can pull a hackney cab driva newher netime!!
Becky wrote:
I wanna know how come a hackney cab at 3am will cost me anywhere between £18-25, when West Quay cabs do exactly the same route, same time, yet manage to be endlessly more polite and prompt and only charge me £12-15!!!
cuz ya hav 2 book the west quay drivaz but ya can pull a hackney cab driva newher netime!!
Posted by: hackney, soton on 1:21pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Becky[/bold] wrote:
I wanna know how come a hackney cab at 3am will cost me anywhere between £18-25, when West Quay cabs do exactly the same route, same time, yet manage to be endlessly more polite and prompt and only charge me £12-15!!![/quote] the reason they probably charged you that amount may be because they picked you illegally in the trade jargon a "whippey". Also they change tariffs as and when they like hackney carriages cannot do that. You travel with 5 or more mates in a west quay multi seater then come back and say they are cheap. I have a 6 seater taxi I ran the meter from Terminus Terrace to Bitterne Manor at 12.30 am with 6 persons and they kept telling eachother how much was on my meter. I asked if there was a problem, they said "we just thought it would be more than it is". At the B.P garage they paid me £6.75; at 19.00 hrs they had booked a west quay multi seater and it cost them £10.00 to Terminus Terrace from the B.P garage. So love whats cheap about west quay then? In the city multi seater Private hires charge more Hackneys DO NOT.
Becky wrote:
I wanna know how come a hackney cab at 3am will cost me anywhere between £18-25, when West Quay cabs do exactly the same route, same time, yet manage to be endlessly more polite and prompt and only charge me £12-15!!!
the reason they probably charged you that amount may be because they picked you illegally in the trade jargon a "whippey". Also they change tariffs as and when they like hackney carriages cannot do that. You travel with 5 or more mates in a west quay multi seater then come back and say they are cheap. I have a 6 seater taxi I ran the meter from Terminus Terrace to Bitterne Manor at 12.30 am with 6 persons and they kept telling eachother how much was on my meter. I asked if there was a problem, they said "we just thought it would be more than it is". At the B.P garage they paid me £6.75; at 19.00 hrs they had booked a west quay multi seater and it cost them £10.00 to Terminus Terrace from the B.P garage. So love whats cheap about west quay then? In the city multi seater Private hires charge more Hackneys DO NOT.
Posted by: mike, soton on 1:21pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]emma[/bold] wrote:
I would rather use a West Quay Car any day, staff are polite and cars are of a good standard. [/quote] Thats your opinion.
I know people who say they wouldnt touch West Quay.Ask the staff at Grosvenor why they use other Firms when they have the contract with West Quay for their customers.Rude operators more expensive and waiting too long for their cars.
emma wrote:
I would rather use a West Quay Car any day, staff are polite and cars are of a good standard.
Thats your opinion.
I know people who say they wouldnt touch West Quay.Ask the staff at Grosvenor why they use other Firms when they have the contract with West Quay for their customers.Rude operators more expensive and waiting too long for their cars.
Posted by: Anon, southampton on 1:45pm Tue 5 Aug 08
i think that all the above slanging matches are pathetic - small minded people and obviously bored taxi drivers. get a life
i think that all the above slanging matches are pathetic - small minded people and obviously bored taxi drivers. get a life
Posted by: Andrew, Southampton on 1:49pm Tue 5 Aug 08
If you are going to be a taxi driver realise it is a service for the public and treat it as such.
Also, learn the Highway Code and have some consideration for your fellow drivers.
If you are going to be a taxi driver realise it is a service for the public and treat it as such.
Also, learn the Highway Code and have some consideration for your fellow drivers.
Posted by: Steve, Southampton on 1:52pm Tue 5 Aug 08
Hardly any of you are discussing the issue in hand - taxis at the docks. just using this to slate a taxi firm. If you want to make a comment make an appropriate one.
Hardly any of you are discussing the issue in hand - taxis at the docks. just using this to slate a taxi firm. If you want to make a comment make an appropriate one.
Posted by: Sick of it on 2:00pm Tue 5 Aug 08
For years there have not been enough taxi's in southampton, by allowing part time licences only able to operate during peak times we would get more people off the streets in the early hours of the mornings, i,e. Friday and Saturday which would of course reduce drunken violence. The increased volume created by the Cruise Liners cannot currently be accommodated by the current number of licenses.
For years there have not been enough taxi's in southampton, by allowing part time licences only able to operate during peak times we would get more people off the streets in the early hours of the mornings, i,e. Friday and Saturday which would of course reduce drunken violence. The increased volume created by the Cruise Liners cannot currently be accommodated by the current number of licenses.
Posted by: mike, soton on 2:26pm Tue 5 Aug 08
Ok This is how I see it. Lee Haynes is a buisness man,he is trying to create an empire.He makes his money by taking rent from drivers,just like the other firms do.They do not employ the drivers,so if they have no drivers they have no income.What he is proposing is ok if it was run by an independant body not by him.If this goes ahead all that would happen is that West Quay Cars would get all the good jobs ie Heathrow etc and the small jobs would go to the rest.At present the only queues I see is the large amount of Hackney Cars waiting at the Ranks.If it goes the other way, with one company controlling it like the Airport. Then you will create a monopoli which will lead to higher fares and a lower quality of service.This system is desinged not to help the visitors of Southampton but to increase the revenue of the Taxi Firms (not the drivers) in southampton.
Ok This is how I see it. Lee Haynes is a buisness man,he is trying to create an empire.He makes his money by taking rent from drivers,just like the other firms do.They do not employ the drivers,so if they have no drivers they have no income.What he is proposing is ok if it was run by an independant body not by him.If this goes ahead all that would happen is that West Quay Cars would get all the good jobs ie Heathrow etc and the small jobs would go to the rest.At present the only queues I see is the large amount of Hackney Cars waiting at the Ranks.If it goes the other way, with one company controlling it like the Airport. Then you will create a monopoli which will lead to higher fares and a lower quality of service.This system is desinged not to help the visitors of Southampton but to increase the revenue of the Taxi Firms (not the drivers) in southampton.
Posted by: Not Interested on 2:35pm Tue 5 Aug 08
I use taxis quite a lot in and around Southampton, and I would rather let 20 red plates drive by and wait for a West Quay taxi than flag one down.
Southampton red plate (and white plate for that matter) drivers are rude, arrogant and some even have questionable hygiene! They rarely turn up on time when ordered - if at all sometimes and when flagged down my experience is they rarely stop, instead preferring to speed to the more lucrative docks than pick up a local.
Only last week-end, a driver on a rank in the city center locked his doors and refused to let me in unless I told him where I was going before I got in – something I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to do.
I for one am all in favour of supporting local business, and I am aware of the feeling West Quay taxis provoke in the Southampton taxi drivers, but when you all behave the way you do towards the local population is it any wonder we would prefer to use a taxi company that provides taxis when they say they will, with a smart courteous and helpful driver?
I use taxis quite a lot in and around Southampton, and I would rather let 20 red plates drive by and wait for a West Quay taxi than flag one down.
Southampton red plate (and white plate for that matter) drivers are rude, arrogant and some even have questionable hygiene! They rarely turn up on time when ordered - if at all sometimes and when flagged down my experience is they rarely stop, instead preferring to speed to the more lucrative docks than pick up a local.
Only last week-end, a driver on a rank in the city center locked his doors and refused to let me in unless I told him where I was going before I got in – something I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to do.
I for one am all in favour of supporting local business, and I am aware of the feeling West Quay taxis provoke in the Southampton taxi drivers, but when you all behave the way you do towards the local population is it any wonder we would prefer to use a taxi company that provides taxis when they say they will, with a smart courteous and helpful driver?
Posted by: You Should Be, soton on 2:56pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Not Interested[/bold] wrote:
I use taxis quite a lot in and around Southampton, and I would rather let 20 red plates drive by and wait for a West Quay taxi than flag one down. Southampton red plate (and white plate for that matter) drivers are rude, arrogant and some even have questionable hygiene! They rarely turn up on time when ordered - if at all sometimes and when flagged down my experience is they rarely stop, instead preferring to speed to the more lucrative docks than pick up a local. Only last week-end, a driver on a rank in the city center locked his doors and refused to let me in unless I told him where I was going before I got in – something I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to do. I for one am all in favour of supporting local business, and I am aware of the feeling West Quay taxis provoke in the Southampton taxi drivers, but when you all behave the way you do towards the local population is it any wonder we would prefer to use a taxi company that provides taxis when they say they will, with a smart courteous and helpful driver?[/quote] Are these the same drivers that have moved to A T S because West Quays has no work for them.All the drivers are self employed the companies has no control over them.In the last month they have lost over 20 drivers.
Not Interested wrote:
I use taxis quite a lot in and around Southampton, and I would rather let 20 red plates drive by and wait for a West Quay taxi than flag one down. Southampton red plate (and white plate for that matter) drivers are rude, arrogant and some even have questionable hygiene! They rarely turn up on time when ordered - if at all sometimes and when flagged down my experience is they rarely stop, instead preferring to speed to the more lucrative docks than pick up a local. Only last week-end, a driver on a rank in the city center locked his doors and refused to let me in unless I told him where I was going before I got in – something I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to do. I for one am all in favour of supporting local business, and I am aware of the feeling West Quay taxis provoke in the Southampton taxi drivers, but when you all behave the way you do towards the local population is it any wonder we would prefer to use a taxi company that provides taxis when they say they will, with a smart courteous and helpful driver?
Are these the same drivers that have moved to A T S because West Quays has no work for them.All the drivers are self employed the companies has no control over them.In the last month they have lost over 20 drivers.
Posted by: On the Waterfront, Southampton on 3:03pm Tue 5 Aug 08
I bet the Taxi firms aren't rushing to form a queue down at the Flower Gardens. Is it because most of them are going nowhere?
I bet the Taxi firms aren't rushing to form a queue down at the Flower Gardens. Is it because most of them are going nowhere?
Posted by: Persil Pete, Portswood on 3:04pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]You Should Be[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Not Interested[/bold] wrote:
I use taxis quite a lot in and around Southampton, and I would rather let 20 red plates drive by and wait for a West Quay taxi than flag one down. Southampton red plate (and white plate for that matter) drivers are rude, arrogant and some even have questionable hygiene! They rarely turn up on time when ordered - if at all sometimes and when flagged down my experience is they rarely stop, instead preferring to speed to the more lucrative docks than pick up a local. Only last week-end, a driver on a rank in the city center locked his doors and refused to let me in unless I told him where I was going before I got in – something I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to do. I for one am all in favour of supporting local business, and I am aware of the feeling West Quay taxis provoke in the Southampton taxi drivers, but when you all behave the way you do towards the local population is it any wonder we would prefer to use a taxi company that provides taxis when they say they will, with a smart courteous and helpful driver?[/quote] Are these the same drivers that have moved to A T S because West Quays has no work for them.All the drivers are self employed the companies has no control over them.In the last month they have lost over 20 drivers.[/quote] That's what happens if they haven't got Sad Nav.
You Should Be wrote:
Not Interested wrote:
I use taxis quite a lot in and around Southampton, and I would rather let 20 red plates drive by and wait for a West Quay taxi than flag one down. Southampton red plate (and white plate for that matter) drivers are rude, arrogant and some even have questionable hygiene! They rarely turn up on time when ordered - if at all sometimes and when flagged down my experience is they rarely stop, instead preferring to speed to the more lucrative docks than pick up a local. Only last week-end, a driver on a rank in the city center locked his doors and refused to let me in unless I told him where I was going before I got in – something I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to do. I for one am all in favour of supporting local business, and I am aware of the feeling West Quay taxis provoke in the Southampton taxi drivers, but when you all behave the way you do towards the local population is it any wonder we would prefer to use a taxi company that provides taxis when they say they will, with a smart courteous and helpful driver?
Are these the same drivers that have moved to A T S because West Quays has no work for them.All the drivers are self employed the companies has no control over them.In the last month they have lost over 20 drivers.
That's what happens if they haven't got Sad Nav.
Posted by: Ed Case, Southampton on 3:11pm Tue 5 Aug 08
Why don't the Cruise companies set up and run their own 'Taxi' service?
Passengers could pre-book their journey prior to disembarking, the companies increase revenue and have control over the levels of service and presentation. After enjoying a high level of service onboard, there's no need for it to end as you reach Southampton.
I'm off to speak with ABP!
Why don't the Cruise companies set up and run their own 'Taxi' service?
Passengers could pre-book their journey prior to disembarking, the companies increase revenue and have control over the levels of service and presentation. After enjoying a high level of service onboard, there's no need for it to end as you reach Southampton.
I'm off to speak with ABP!
Posted by: Iain, Lordshill on 3:15pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Tom[/bold] wrote:
A holiday begins when you leave your house to when you arrive back at it. The experience for the customer should be as good as possible - after all people (tourists) make up their minds on a place i.e. Southampton in the first few minutes. The docks are not exactly the most pleasing to the eye so at least for the tourist receiving a nice comfortable trip from the dock to the airport or train station would help forge a better opinion of Southampton.[/quote] If they're going direct from the dock to the airport, then they're not getting much of an impression of Southampton anyway. Get the taxi drivers to take them to the Flowers Estate to see some genuine Sotonian street theatre - that's the Wow factor we've been looking for.
Tom wrote:
A holiday begins when you leave your house to when you arrive back at it. The experience for the customer should be as good as possible - after all people (tourists) make up their minds on a place i.e. Southampton in the first few minutes. The docks are not exactly the most pleasing to the eye so at least for the tourist receiving a nice comfortable trip from the dock to the airport or train station would help forge a better opinion of Southampton.
If they're going direct from the dock to the airport, then they're not getting much of an impression of Southampton anyway. Get the taxi drivers to take them to the Flowers Estate to see some genuine Sotonian street theatre - that's the Wow factor we've been looking for.
Posted by: mr soton, Southampton on 3:50pm Tue 5 Aug 08
I am one of only a few Southampton born taxi drivers that are left-Im never rude,I speak english,I wash,I help everyone that gets in my cab.
A message to all taxi drivers out there-times are hard so be polite,wash,and try and learn some basic english before getting in a cab and try not to use a sat-nav.
I hear so many horror storys when people tell me about there taxi experiences.manly about the non english drivers.
Remember!!!! if u want to complain the door stickers should have the car number on also inside the windscreen on the passenger side is the number too.also the driver should have a badge on display or in the car that too has a number.phone the licencing dept and tell them.
there are some good taxi drivers still out there.
I am one of only a few Southampton born taxi drivers that are left-Im never rude,I speak english,I wash,I help everyone that gets in my cab.
A message to all taxi drivers out there-times are hard so be polite,wash,and try and learn some basic english before getting in a cab and try not to use a sat-nav.
I hear so many horror storys when people tell me about there taxi experiences.manly about the non english drivers.
Remember!!!! if u want to complain the door stickers should have the car number on also inside the windscreen on the passenger side is the number too.also the driver should have a badge on display or in the car that too has a number.phone the licencing dept and tell them.
there are some good taxi drivers still out there.
Posted by: disgruntled on 3:58pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mr soton[/bold] wrote:
I am one of only a few Southampton born taxi drivers that are left-Im never rude,I speak english,I wash,I help everyone that gets in my cab. A message to all taxi drivers out there-times are hard so be polite,wash,and try and learn some basic english before getting in a cab and try not to use a sat-nav. I hear so many horror storys when people tell me about there taxi experiences.manly about the non english drivers. Remember!!!! if u want to complain the door stickers should have the car number on also inside the windscreen on the passenger side is the number too.also the driver should have a badge on display or in the car that too has a number.phone the licencing dept and tell them. there are some good taxi drivers still out there. [/quote] I tried but the bloke at the licencing department did not speak enough English to process my complaint and as far as i am aware the goit of a taxy driver is still out there.
mr soton wrote:
I am one of only a few Southampton born taxi drivers that are left-Im never rude,I speak english,I wash,I help everyone that gets in my cab. A message to all taxi drivers out there-times are hard so be polite,wash,and try and learn some basic english before getting in a cab and try not to use a sat-nav. I hear so many horror storys when people tell me about there taxi experiences.manly about the non english drivers. Remember!!!! if u want to complain the door stickers should have the car number on also inside the windscreen on the passenger side is the number too.also the driver should have a badge on display or in the car that too has a number.phone the licencing dept and tell them. there are some good taxi drivers still out there.
I tried but the bloke at the licencing department did not speak enough English to process my complaint and as far as i am aware the goit of a taxy driver is still out there.
Posted by: The Falcon on 4:12pm Tue 5 Aug 08
How strange!
Perry McMilitant suddenly wants to sit round a table and discuss.
This is purely because he cannot bully them and hold them to ransom like he so often does with the council.
This shows yet again what a gutless bully he is.
ABP will not be bullied, you're darn right they won't, so Mcmilitant sucks up to them like a kid with no friends.
Remember this, he and his suck ups are greedy little filth, that despise equality, whilst falsely advocating their right for it.
They lie cheat and intimidate, for their own personal gain. FACT !
Good on the private hire for offering a cheaper service than the robbing militant Hackney bullyboys.
How strange!
Perry McMilitant suddenly wants to sit round a table and discuss.
This is purely because he cannot bully them and hold them to ransom like he so often does with the council.
This shows yet again what a gutless bully he is.
ABP will not be bullied, you're darn right they won't, so Mcmilitant sucks up to them like a kid with no friends.
Remember this, he and his suck ups are greedy little filth, that despise equality, whilst falsely advocating their right for it.
They lie cheat and intimidate, for their own personal gain. FACT !
Good on the private hire for offering a cheaper service than the robbing militant Hackney bullyboys.
Posted by: Simple Solution on 5:10pm Tue 5 Aug 08
I'm going to buy a double decker bus and fill the thing up passenger and do all the cabbies out of business.
I'm going to buy a double decker bus and fill the thing up passenger and do all the cabbies out of business.
Posted by: Taxi Man, at the rank on 5:35pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Simple Solution[/bold] wrote:
I'm going to buy a double decker bus and fill the thing up passenger and do all the cabbies out of business.[/quote] Unless the Taxi industry gets its act in order this is exactly what ABP or the Cruise Companies could do. A lot of the runs are to the Station/Airport/City and busses would be an option at busy times when lack of cabs is a problem.Actually ABP have been pretty fair.At the Airport only one Taxi Company (Checker Cabs) is licensed to operate and they pay a shed load of money to BAA for the privelege. It could happen in the Docks unless the matter is sorted.
Simple Solution wrote:
I'm going to buy a double decker bus and fill the thing up passenger and do all the cabbies out of business.
Unless the Taxi industry gets its act in order this is exactly what ABP or the Cruise Companies could do. A lot of the runs are to the Station/Airport/City and busses would be an option at busy times when lack of cabs is a problem.Actually ABP have been pretty fair.At the Airport only one Taxi Company (Checker Cabs) is licensed to operate and they pay a shed load of money to BAA for the privelege. It could happen in the Docks unless the matter is sorted.
Posted by: taxi driver, southampton on 6:02pm Tue 5 Aug 08
i would like to comment about this situation arising in my opinion perry mcmillan and everyone else from the union are doing a great job supporting the taxi trade and voicing all our concerns to the right organisations i personally would like to operate my business driving a taxi(red plate) without the stress and worry about other companys trying to force work away from me.....
to everyone else out there we are looked upon as moaning taxi drivers but we are not were simply trying to earn an honest living like most folks out there
if ABP allows the likes of west quay cars to come in and service the docks even though without the support of other local taxi firms they cannot cope they themselfs will deeply regret it but like most things in this country they never learn until its too late
SO GUYS REMEMBER LETS NOT LET THAT HAPPEN AND IF A COMPLETE BOYCOTT OF THE DOCKS IS CALLED LETS ALL PULL TOGETHER 100% A TO MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE CAN TAKE OUR LIVELIHOODS AWAY FROM US
(hopefuly none of the above needs to be taken and this all resolved a.s.a.p)
i would like to comment about this situation arising in my opinion perry mcmillan and everyone else from the union are doing a great job supporting the taxi trade and voicing all our concerns to the right organisations i personally would like to operate my business driving a taxi(red plate) without the stress and worry about other companys trying to force work away from me.....
to everyone else out there we are looked upon as moaning taxi drivers but we are not were simply trying to earn an honest living like most folks out there
if ABP allows the likes of west quay cars to come in and service the docks even though without the support of other local taxi firms they cannot cope they themselfs will deeply regret it but like most things in this country they never learn until its too late
SO GUYS REMEMBER LETS NOT LET THAT HAPPEN AND IF A COMPLETE BOYCOTT OF THE DOCKS IS CALLED LETS ALL PULL TOGETHER 100% A TO MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE CAN TAKE OUR LIVELIHOODS AWAY FROM US
(hopefuly none of the above needs to be taken and this all resolved a.s.a.p)
Posted by: hackneyman, taliban rank on 6:22pm Tue 5 Aug 08
Any one concerned with the soton taxi (hackney)trade should just calm down and take a step back for a minute.Has any one heard of any complaints from abp themselves? All the complaints I have seen come from a 'two bob shyster' by the name of Haynes and his cronies.Who the hell is he? He has no concern how the docks run, just so long as he can get in there and make a fast buck, to prop up his wife and mother-in-laws company: West Quay Cars.If abp had any real problems with the service provided by the present system, surely the best thing to do would be to discuss it with those that operate it.Not change the whole workings of the docks just to benefit this slimy snake-oil salesman and risk upsetting the whole of the Hackney trade. Who, on the whole, provide a good service for the cruise ship industry. I will admit that there are a few people that let the trade down at times. But, on the whole, most of us are normal, sensible people just trying to earn a living by providing a service. We are not going to bite the hand that feeds us! So, if anyone from abp is reading this, get in touch with one or all of the trade reps and voice your concerns, if you have any. And lets put a stop to this war of words being fought out in public. And stop giving Haynes the publicity he craves. After all, this is a man who bought a thriving company from a real business man(Dusty Miller) 4 or 5 years ago, and is now so desperate that he has pinned all his hopes on getting into the docks. Let's just see how long he stays in 'his city' when he fails.And, just in case your reading this Mr.Haynes and you are planning for the future, may I suggest that, seing you are so fond of poncing around in your little blue jacket, Pontins are crying out for bluecoats this time of year. Time to make some other town/city your new home!
Any one concerned with the soton taxi (hackney)trade should just calm down and take a step back for a minute.Has any one heard of any complaints from abp themselves? All the complaints I have seen come from a 'two bob shyster' by the name of Haynes and his cronies.Who the hell is he? He has no concern how the docks run, just so long as he can get in there and make a fast buck, to prop up his wife and mother-in-laws company: West Quay Cars.If abp had any real problems with the service provided by the present system, surely the best thing to do would be to discuss it with those that operate it.Not change the whole workings of the docks just to benefit this slimy snake-oil salesman and risk upsetting the whole of the Hackney trade. Who, on the whole, provide a good service for the cruise ship industry. I will admit that there are a few people that let the trade down at times. But, on the whole, most of us are normal, sensible people just trying to earn a living by providing a service. We are not going to bite the hand that feeds us! So, if anyone from abp is reading this, get in touch with one or all of the trade reps and voice your concerns, if you have any. And lets put a stop to this war of words being fought out in public. And stop giving Haynes the publicity he craves. After all, this is a man who bought a thriving company from a real business man(Dusty Miller) 4 or 5 years ago, and is now so desperate that he has pinned all his hopes on getting into the docks. Let's just see how long he stays in 'his city' when he fails.And, just in case your reading this Mr.Haynes and you are planning for the future, may I suggest that, seing you are so fond of poncing around in your little blue jacket, Pontins are crying out for bluecoats this time of year. Time to make some other town/city your new home!
Posted by: her indoors, eastleigh on 6:27pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Ed Case[/bold] wrote:
Why don't the Cruise companies set up and run their own 'Taxi' service? Passengers could pre-book their journey prior to disembarking, the companies increase revenue and have control over the levels of service and presentation. After enjoying a high level of service onboard, there's no need for it to end as you reach Southampton. I'm off to speak with ABP![/quote] most people going to airports ect or live far away usually go by coach and are able to disembark to enable them to catch the coaches also a lot of people get a free taxi as part of the deal when booking others usually pre-book before they go or are picked up by family so i dont know that the taxis are needed but for the few
Ed Case wrote:
Why don't the Cruise companies set up and run their own 'Taxi' service? Passengers could pre-book their journey prior to disembarking, the companies increase revenue and have control over the levels of service and presentation. After enjoying a high level of service onboard, there's no need for it to end as you reach Southampton. I'm off to speak with ABP!
most people going to airports ect or live far away usually go by coach and are able to disembark to enable them to catch the coaches also a lot of people get a free taxi as part of the deal when booking others usually pre-book before they go or are picked up by family so i dont know that the taxis are needed but for the few
Posted by: The Falcon on 6:31pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote]taxi driver, southampton on 6:02pm today
i would like to comment about this situation arising in my opinion perry mcmillan and everyone else from the union are doing a great job supporting the taxi trade and voicing all our concerns to the right organisations i personally would like to operate my business driving a taxi(red plate) without the stress and worry about other companys trying to force work away from me..... to everyone else out there we are looked upon as moaning taxi drivers but we are not were simply trying to earn an honest living like most folks out there if ABP allows the likes of west quay cars to come in and service the docks even though without the support of other local taxi firms they cannot cope they themselfs will deeply regret it but like most things in this country they never learn until its too late SO GUYS REMEMBER LETS NOT LET THAT HAPPEN AND IF A COMPLETE BOYCOTT OF THE DOCKS IS CALLED LETS ALL PULL TOGETHER 100% A TO MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE CAN TAKE OUR LIVELIHOODS AWAY FROM US (hopefuly none of the above needs to be taken and this all resolved a.s.a.p)
[/quote]
Exactly my point blackmailer.
You are bullies, that can only blackmail (Which you endearingly term as "Boycott) to get what you want.
ABP are more than a match for your pathetic little group of nobodies, so bring it on.
All that rubbish about lets sit down. (OR ELSE) that's what you mean.
You are lowlife guttersnipes that are a far cry from yesterdays strikers, who had the sympathy of the public for GENUINE change.
You are greedy little lost sheep, that think McMilitant can win the day with his arrogant wolf pack tactics.
Gutless blackmailers.
taxi driver, southampton on 6:02pm today
i would like to comment about this situation arising in my opinion perry mcmillan and everyone else from the union are doing a great job supporting the taxi trade and voicing all our concerns to the right organisations i personally would like to operate my business driving a taxi(red plate) without the stress and worry about other companys trying to force work away from me..... to everyone else out there we are looked upon as moaning taxi drivers but we are not were simply trying to earn an honest living like most folks out there if ABP allows the likes of west quay cars to come in and service the docks even though without the support of other local taxi firms they cannot cope they themselfs will deeply regret it but like most things in this country they never learn until its too late SO GUYS REMEMBER LETS NOT LET THAT HAPPEN AND IF A COMPLETE BOYCOTT OF THE DOCKS IS CALLED LETS ALL PULL TOGETHER 100% A TO MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE CAN TAKE OUR LIVELIHOODS AWAY FROM US (hopefuly none of the above needs to be taken and this all resolved a.s.a.p)
Exactly my point blackmailer.
You are bullies, that can only blackmail (Which you endearingly term as "Boycott) to get what you want.
ABP are more than a match for your pathetic little group of nobodies, so bring it on.
All that rubbish about lets sit down. (OR ELSE) that's what you mean.
You are lowlife guttersnipes that are a far cry from yesterdays strikers, who had the sympathy of the public for GENUINE change.
You are greedy little lost sheep, that think McMilitant can win the day with his arrogant wolf pack tactics.
Gutless blackmailers.
Posted by: taxi driver, southampton on 7:08pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]The Falcon[/bold] wrote:
[quote]taxi driver, southampton on 6:02pm today i would like to comment about this situation arising in my opinion perry mcmillan and everyone else from the union are doing a great job supporting the taxi trade and voicing all our concerns to the right organisations i personally would like to operate my business driving a taxi(red plate) without the stress and worry about other companys trying to force work away from me..... to everyone else out there we are looked upon as moaning taxi drivers but we are not were simply trying to earn an honest living like most folks out there if ABP allows the likes of west quay cars to come in and service the docks even though without the support of other local taxi firms they cannot cope they themselfs will deeply regret it but like most things in this country they never learn until its too late SO GUYS REMEMBER LETS NOT LET THAT HAPPEN AND IF A COMPLETE BOYCOTT OF THE DOCKS IS CALLED LETS ALL PULL TOGETHER 100% A TO MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE CAN TAKE OUR LIVELIHOODS AWAY FROM US (hopefuly none of the above needs to be taken and this all resolved a.s.a.p) [/quote] Exactly my point blackmailer. You are bullies, that can only blackmail (Which you endearingly term as "Boycott) to get what you want. ABP are more than a match for your pathetic little group of nobodies, so bring it on. All that rubbish about lets sit down. (OR ELSE) that's what you mean. You are lowlife guttersnipes that are a far cry from yesterdays strikers, who had the sympathy of the public for GENUINE change. You are greedy little lost sheep, that think McMilitant can win the day with his arrogant wolf pack tactics. Gutless blackmailers.[/quote] what you do for a living?????????? the falcon
The Falcon wrote:
taxi driver, southampton on 6:02pm today i would like to comment about this situation arising in my opinion perry mcmillan and everyone else from the union are doing a great job supporting the taxi trade and voicing all our concerns to the right organisations i personally would like to operate my business driving a taxi(red plate) without the stress and worry about other companys trying to force work away from me..... to everyone else out there we are looked upon as moaning taxi drivers but we are not were simply trying to earn an honest living like most folks out there if ABP allows the likes of west quay cars to come in and service the docks even though without the support of other local taxi firms they cannot cope they themselfs will deeply regret it but like most things in this country they never learn until its too late SO GUYS REMEMBER LETS NOT LET THAT HAPPEN AND IF A COMPLETE BOYCOTT OF THE DOCKS IS CALLED LETS ALL PULL TOGETHER 100% A TO MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE CAN TAKE OUR LIVELIHOODS AWAY FROM US (hopefuly none of the above needs to be taken and this all resolved a.s.a.p)
Exactly my point blackmailer. You are bullies, that can only blackmail (Which you endearingly term as "Boycott) to get what you want. ABP are more than a match for your pathetic little group of nobodies, so bring it on. All that rubbish about lets sit down. (OR ELSE) that's what you mean. You are lowlife guttersnipes that are a far cry from yesterdays strikers, who had the sympathy of the public for GENUINE change. You are greedy little lost sheep, that think McMilitant can win the day with his arrogant wolf pack tactics. Gutless blackmailers.
what you do for a living?????????? the falcon
Posted by: Mad Max, the prairies on 7:21pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]her indoors[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ed Case[/bold] wrote: Why don't the Cruise companies set up and run their own 'Taxi' service? Passengers could pre-book their journey prior to disembarking, the companies increase revenue and have control over the levels of service and presentation. After enjoying a high level of service onboard, there's no need for it to end as you reach Southampton. I'm off to speak with ABP![/quote] most people going to airports ect or live far away usually go by coach and are able to disembark to enable them to catch the coaches also a lot of people get a free taxi as part of the deal when booking others usually pre-book before they go or are picked up by family so i dont know that the taxis are needed but for the few[/quote] I don't know if they still do, but the cruise companies use to pre-book "executive" travel in Southampton which was run by a local company.... but to be honest, it was mostly well off Americans that used the service....
her indoors wrote:
Ed Case wrote: Why don't the Cruise companies set up and run their own 'Taxi' service? Passengers could pre-book their journey prior to disembarking, the companies increase revenue and have control over the levels of service and presentation. After enjoying a high level of service onboard, there's no need for it to end as you reach Southampton. I'm off to speak with ABP!
most people going to airports ect or live far away usually go by coach and are able to disembark to enable them to catch the coaches also a lot of people get a free taxi as part of the deal when booking others usually pre-book before they go or are picked up by family so i dont know that the taxis are needed but for the few
I don't know if they still do, but the cruise companies use to pre-book "executive" travel in Southampton which was run by a local company.... but to be honest, it was mostly well off Americans that used the service....
Posted by: Andy, Locks Heath on 7:24pm Tue 5 Aug 08
We should build a taxi rank on Dibden Bay and send the passengers over by bosuns chair blah blah blah etc etc etc.. Its [italic]OUR[/italic] bay...DID YOU HEAR WHAT I SAID??? [bold]OUR BAY!!!! AARRRGGGHHHH!!![/bold]
We should build a taxi rank on Dibden Bay and send the passengers over by bosuns chair blah blah blah etc etc etc.. Its
OUR bay...DID YOU HEAR WHAT I SAID???
OUR BAY!!!! AARRRGGGHHHH!!! Posted by: liam singh, southampton on 7:32pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Becky[/bold] wrote:
I wanna know how come a hackney cab at 3am will cost me anywhere between £18-25, when West Quay cabs do exactly the same route, same time, yet manage to be endlessly more polite and prompt and only charge me £12-15!!![/quote] they charge this because there are not enough taxi's i.e hakneys on the road. for the past ten years the labour council would not change this. now we have a chnce for this town that i was born in to move into the future with councillor royston smith to delimit the the number of cars and do what all other city' our size are doing and you will find an even cheaper service than west quay.
Becky wrote:
I wanna know how come a hackney cab at 3am will cost me anywhere between £18-25, when West Quay cabs do exactly the same route, same time, yet manage to be endlessly more polite and prompt and only charge me £12-15!!!
they charge this because there are not enough taxi's i.e hakneys on the road. for the past ten years the labour council would not change this. now we have a chnce for this town that i was born in to move into the future with councillor royston smith to delimit the the number of cars and do what all other city' our size are doing and you will find an even cheaper service than west quay.
Posted by: Mick Collins, Southampton on 8:05pm Tue 5 Aug 08
One thing to consider, ABP are involved so have a look at all the f**k ups they've been involved in over the last few years and you'll see anything can happen!
Also, good idea about putting a taxi rank on Dibden Bay.
One thing to consider, ABP are involved so have a look at all the f**k ups they've been involved in over the last few years and you'll see anything can happen!
Also, good idea about putting a taxi rank on Dibden Bay.
Posted by: mrsmcmillan, Central on 8:29pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Not Interested[/bold] wrote:
I use taxis quite a lot in and around Southampton, and I would rather let 20 red plates drive by and wait for a West Quay taxi than flag one down. Southampton red plate (and white plate for that matter) drivers are rude, arrogant and some even have questionable hygiene! They rarely turn up on time when ordered - if at all sometimes and when flagged down my experience is they rarely stop, instead preferring to speed to the more lucrative docks than pick up a local. Only last week-end, a driver on a rank in the city center locked his doors and refused to let me in unless I told him where I was going before I got in – something I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to do. I for one am all in favour of supporting local business, and I am aware of the feeling West Quay taxis provoke in the Southampton taxi drivers, but when you all behave the way you do towards the local population is it any wonder we would prefer to use a taxi company that provides taxis when they say they will, with a smart courteous and helpful driver?[/quote] for someone who is "not interested"you seem to have alot to say and im guessing your in the trade (possibly west quay driver)as you refer to red plates ...which only someone in the know would refer to !!!
Not Interested wrote:
I use taxis quite a lot in and around Southampton, and I would rather let 20 red plates drive by and wait for a West Quay taxi than flag one down. Southampton red plate (and white plate for that matter) drivers are rude, arrogant and some even have questionable hygiene! They rarely turn up on time when ordered - if at all sometimes and when flagged down my experience is they rarely stop, instead preferring to speed to the more lucrative docks than pick up a local. Only last week-end, a driver on a rank in the city center locked his doors and refused to let me in unless I told him where I was going before I got in – something I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to do. I for one am all in favour of supporting local business, and I am aware of the feeling West Quay taxis provoke in the Southampton taxi drivers, but when you all behave the way you do towards the local population is it any wonder we would prefer to use a taxi company that provides taxis when they say they will, with a smart courteous and helpful driver?
for someone who is "not interested"you seem to have alot to say and im guessing your in the trade (possibly west quay driver)as you refer to red plates ...which only someone in the know would refer to !!!
Posted by: Alf, coxford on 8:35pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mr soton[/bold] wrote:
I am one of only a few Southampton born taxi drivers that are left-Im never rude,I speak english,I wash,I help everyone that gets in my cab. A message to all taxi drivers out there-times are hard so be polite,wash,and try and learn some basic english before getting in a cab and try not to use a sat-nav. I hear so many horror storys when people tell me about there taxi experiences.manly about the non english drivers. Remember!!!! if u want to complain the door stickers should have the car number on also inside the windscreen on the passenger side is the number too.also the driver should have a badge on display or in the car that too has a number.phone the licencing dept and tell them. there are some good taxi drivers still out there. [/quote] I use a taxi to get to work most weekends to get from Coxford to Eastern Docks, You get an english driver he will take you the quickest route, get a foreigner he will take you on a guided tour of Southampton, as happened to me a couple of weeks ago. Makes you wonder how they pass the licence!!!
mr soton wrote:
I am one of only a few Southampton born taxi drivers that are left-Im never rude,I speak english,I wash,I help everyone that gets in my cab. A message to all taxi drivers out there-times are hard so be polite,wash,and try and learn some basic english before getting in a cab and try not to use a sat-nav. I hear so many horror storys when people tell me about there taxi experiences.manly about the non english drivers. Remember!!!! if u want to complain the door stickers should have the car number on also inside the windscreen on the passenger side is the number too.also the driver should have a badge on display or in the car that too has a number.phone the licencing dept and tell them. there are some good taxi drivers still out there.
I use a taxi to get to work most weekends to get from Coxford to Eastern Docks, You get an english driver he will take you the quickest route, get a foreigner he will take you on a guided tour of Southampton, as happened to me a couple of weeks ago. Makes you wonder how they pass the licence!!!
Posted by: Taxi know it all, Southampton on 8:36pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote]3rd All hackney carriage vehicles if you go out of the southampton boundry are legally allowed to charge you a 25% boundary charge on top of the metered fare.IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO PAY THIS THEN PHONE RADIO,ATS STEAMLINE OR OURSELVES ON 07900 083380 WE ALL ONLY CHARGE METERED FARES.[/quote]
They are legally only allowed to charge you 25% extra on the portion of the journey THAT IS OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARY. If they try to charge 25% on top of the whole journey refuse to pay and report them to the council.
Also if you pre-book a taxi and a hackney turns up they cannot charge you a boundary charge as they are acting as a private hire.
3rd All hackney carriage vehicles if you go out of the southampton boundry are legally allowed to charge you a 25% boundary charge on top of the metered fare.IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO PAY THIS THEN PHONE RADIO,ATS STEAMLINE OR OURSELVES ON 07900 083380 WE ALL ONLY CHARGE METERED FARES.
They are legally only allowed to charge you 25% extra on the portion of the journey THAT IS OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARY. If they try to charge 25% on top of the whole journey refuse to pay and report them to the council.
Also if you pre-book a taxi and a hackney turns up they cannot charge you a boundary charge as they are acting as a private hire.
Posted by: The Falcon on 8:47pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote]what you do for a living?????????? the falcon[/quote]
Fabrication/Welding.
Not that this should make any difference, unless you would like to turn my profession in to a reason i dislike blackmailing, militant losers!
The truth is, i have watched the filth Mcmillan parade and p0nce his beliefs, then when he doesn't get his way, spit the dummy out and resort to blackmail and threats.
This is not about me disliking taxi drivers, this is about certain ones in particular, lying and twisting their way into situations that purely benefit them.
These same people have nothing to offer, unless they, and only they, stand to personally gain.
If you want public support, try being lead by an honest, down to earth frontman with integrity, whos sole ambition is to fight for the good of the drivers AND the public alike. Then you may get some sympathy from a public, that can see through a veiled and badly worded tirade, that only serves to sicken to the core, genuine people.
Take a back seat at one of his gobby hyped up sermons, there is nothing of substance, only junk after junk after junk. Everything he gets involved in, is purely to give himself a stage due to his narcisistic belief, that he's important.
what you do for a living?????????? the falcon
Fabrication/Welding.
Not that this should make any difference, unless you would like to turn my profession in to a reason i dislike blackmailing, militant losers!
The truth is, i have watched the filth Mcmillan parade and p0nce his beliefs, then when he doesn't get his way, spit the dummy out and resort to blackmail and threats.
This is not about me disliking taxi drivers, this is about certain ones in particular, lying and twisting their way into situations that purely benefit them.
These same people have nothing to offer, unless they, and only they, stand to personally gain.
If you want public support, try being lead by an honest, down to earth frontman with integrity, whos sole ambition is to fight for the good of the drivers AND the public alike. Then you may get some sympathy from a public, that can see through a veiled and badly worded tirade, that only serves to sicken to the core, genuine people.
Take a back seat at one of his gobby hyped up sermons, there is nothing of substance, only junk after junk after junk. Everything he gets involved in, is purely to give himself a stage due to his narcisistic belief, that he's important.
Posted by: gravygranules, southampton on 8:47pm Tue 5 Aug 08
i thought about becoming a taxi driver....dont like people talking behind my back...
i thought about becoming a taxi driver....dont like people talking behind my back...
Posted by: HAR, HAMPSHIRE on 10:02pm Tue 5 Aug 08
HACKNEY CARRIAGE CAB DRIVERS AFRAID OF COMPETITION?
HACKNEY CARRIAGE CAB DRIVERS AFRAID OF COMPETITION?
Posted by: DRIVER, SOUTHAMPTON on 10:30pm Tue 5 Aug 08
TOO MANY COMMENTS ON HERE RUNNING DOWN TAXI DRIVERS AND TAXI COMPANIES
THE HACKNEY TRADE HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT AS THE DOCKS COULD NOT COPE WITHOUT YOU GUYS
TOO MANY COMMENTS ON HERE RUNNING DOWN TAXI DRIVERS AND TAXI COMPANIES
THE HACKNEY TRADE HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT AS THE DOCKS COULD NOT COPE WITHOUT YOU GUYS
Posted by: Big ****, Upper Shirley on 10:31pm Tue 5 Aug 08
As a privte hire driver i think the red plates(hackney carriage drivers) as scared that we(privte hire drivers) are going to show them up, to show that they are a bunch of moaning badly dressed smelly old gits that are not happy unless they are moaning about somthing.They are also very scared that the council will de-regulise the taxi industery then the sh1t will hit the fan big time as then all taxis will be the same!!
As a privte hire driver i think the red plates(hackney carriage drivers) as scared that we(privte hire drivers) are going to show them up, to show that they are a bunch of moaning badly dressed smelly old gits that are not happy unless they are moaning about somthing.They are also very scared that the council will de-regulise the taxi industery then the sh1t will hit the fan big time as then all taxis will be the same!!
Posted by: HACKNEY DRIVER, SOUTHAMPTON on 10:41pm Tue 5 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Big ****[/bold] wrote:
As a privte hire driver i think the red plates(hackney carriage drivers) as scared that we(privte hire drivers) are going to show them up, to show that they are a bunch of moaning badly dressed smelly old gits that are not happy unless they are moaning about somthing.They are also very scared that the council will de-regulise the taxi industery then the sh1t will hit the fan big time as then all taxis will be the same!! [/quote] i take it that you havent given this much thought before you opened you big mouth have you because with the situation in the docks also effects you yes the private hire driver because when your out working your system and there is no work in the docks those hackneys will also be logged onto your system meaning less work for you.................
also if the council do de-regulate that will also effect you
so please think carefully before go running your mouth
you need to back the hackney trade just so that it doesnt affect your business as a private hire driver
Big **** wrote:
As a privte hire driver i think the red plates(hackney carriage drivers) as scared that we(privte hire drivers) are going to show them up, to show that they are a bunch of moaning badly dressed smelly old gits that are not happy unless they are moaning about somthing.They are also very scared that the council will de-regulise the taxi industery then the sh1t will hit the fan big time as then all taxis will be the same!!
i take it that you havent given this much thought before you opened you big mouth have you because with the situation in the docks also effects you yes the private hire driver because when your out working your system and there is no work in the docks those hackneys will also be logged onto your system meaning less work for you.................
also if the council do de-regulate that will also effect you
so please think carefully before go running your mouth
you need to back the hackney trade just so that it doesnt affect your business as a private hire driver
Posted by: sceptical, in limbo on 11:01pm Tue 5 Aug 08
Is this anything to do a with Hackney Carriage Licences worth between £20/£30k apiece because drivers can pick up anywhere? If so perhaps the Hackney licence ownersa are worried that their 'investment' might reduce in value if competition is opened up. Some one told me that that there are only 100 or so Hackney cabs licenced to operate out of the Docks.On busy days this is surely not enough to cater for the cruise passenger need especially as quite a few Hackneys are on contract work during school term time and the main requirement is when cruise ship passengers get off ie between 8/9 am
Is this anything to do a with Hackney Carriage Licences worth between £20/£30k apiece because drivers can pick up anywhere? If so perhaps the Hackney licence ownersa are worried that their 'investment' might reduce in value if competition is opened up. Some one told me that that there are only 100 or so Hackney cabs licenced to operate out of the Docks.On busy days this is surely not enough to cater for the cruise passenger need especially as quite a few Hackneys are on contract work during school term time and the main requirement is when cruise ship passengers get off ie between 8/9 am
Posted by: freeda smith, southampton on 8:03am Wed 6 Aug 08
I get a taxi from central shirley cabs at least 3 times a week and they are always prompt and smart. Ive never had any problem with the drivers or the taxi being late, where as when i used west quay, i found the staff rather rude and scruffy. Central shirley cars also dont have a boundry charge. All in all im very happy with the service.
I get a taxi from central shirley cabs at least 3 times a week and they are always prompt and smart. Ive never had any problem with the drivers or the taxi being late, where as when i used west quay, i found the staff rather rude and scruffy. Central shirley cars also dont have a boundry charge. All in all im very happy with the service.
Posted by: A taxi driver, southampton on 8:46am Wed 6 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Taxi Driver[/bold] wrote:
I had a letter in the post today from Lee haynes the owner of west quay cars, what a load of crap and lies, it says non bios, yet he is the founder of this so called Combined Taxis Of Southampton, it also says that central Shirley cars are committed to this system he wants to impose.. So how can you trust someone who lies about being him being non bios yet he is the founder of the company, and saying that another Taxi comapny is supporting him when they are not... Do you really want someone like this suppling you a PH car???? I think not.. Plus he has got the council lic department to send these letters out, Why are they being so helpful? there are a lot of questions that need to be aswered..[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] [bold]bold[/bold] I also had a letter from Lee Haynes and it tells me that he is out to gain from other taxi drivers and companies by charging the drivers £1 to pick up from the docks and the driver charges an extra £1 to the customer.
If i was to get a taxi from the docks and get charged a extra £1 i would feel i was being ripped off when you can get a cab from anywhere else in the city without this extra charge.
Have the cruise companies been imformed that there customers will be charged this extra cost and get ripped off.
[bold]bold[/bold]
Taxi Driver wrote:
I had a letter in the post today from Lee haynes the owner of west quay cars, what a load of crap and lies, it says non bios, yet he is the founder of this so called Combined Taxis Of Southampton, it also says that central Shirley cars are committed to this system he wants to impose.. So how can you trust someone who lies about being him being non bios yet he is the founder of the company, and saying that another Taxi comapny is supporting him when they are not... Do you really want someone like this suppling you a PH car???? I think not.. Plus he has got the council lic department to send these letters out, Why are they being so helpful? there are a lot of questions that need to be aswered..
I also had a letter from Lee Haynes and it tells me that he is out to gain from other taxi drivers and companies by charging the drivers £1 to pick up from the docks and the driver charges an extra £1 to the customer.
If i was to get a taxi from the docks and get charged a extra £1 i would feel i was being ripped off when you can get a cab from anywhere else in the city without this extra charge.
Have the cruise companies been imformed that there customers will be charged this extra cost and get ripped off.
Posted by: S13, Meh on 9:16am Wed 6 Aug 08
Will their be an Ice Rink?
Will their be an Ice Rink?
Posted by: A Taxi User, southampton on 9:27am Wed 6 Aug 08
[quote][bold]emma[/bold] wrote:
I would rather use a West Quay Car any day, staff are polite and cars are of a good standard. [/quote] i have found in useing West Quay that thay are more exspensive than any other taxi company and there drivers are rood and unhelpfull.
I book a car 1 day from West Quay Cars and it was over half hour late and the driver got out of the car to open the boot with a cigeret in his mouth and the car stunk and when i tried to be polit and talk to the driver he just turned his sterio up. How rood was that.
I will never use West Quay cars again.
I now use Centeral Shirley Cabs and i recieve a better service 023 80393939.
The drivers seem to be more helpfull, chatty and even meet me at my door and drop me where i want to go and thay are on average £2 cheeper each trip i make and prompt even at busy times with the rush hour
emma wrote:
I would rather use a West Quay Car any day, staff are polite and cars are of a good standard.
i have found in useing West Quay that thay are more exspensive than any other taxi company and there drivers are rood and unhelpfull.
I book a car 1 day from West Quay Cars and it was over half hour late and the driver got out of the car to open the boot with a cigeret in his mouth and the car stunk and when i tried to be polit and talk to the driver he just turned his sterio up. How rood was that.
I will never use West Quay cars again.
I now use Centeral Shirley Cabs and i recieve a better service 023 80393939.
The drivers seem to be more helpfull, chatty and even meet me at my door and drop me where i want to go and thay are on average £2 cheeper each trip i make and prompt even at busy times with the rush hour
Posted by: happy, soton on 10:06am Wed 6 Aug 08
[quote][bold]hackneyed[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]sceptical[/bold] wrote: Is this anything to do a with Hackney Carriage Licences worth between £20/£30k apiece because drivers can pick up anywhere? If so perhaps the Hackney licence ownersa are worried that their 'investment' might reduce in value if competition is opened up. Some one told me that that there are only 100 or so Hackney cabs licenced to operate out of the Docks.On busy days this is surely not enough to cater for the cruise passenger need especially as quite a few Hackneys are on contract work during school term time and the main requirement is when cruise ship passengers get off ie between 8/9 am[/quote] Why don't you f @@k off to bed you boring t@at. You obviously have no clue what your'e talking about. So off you go and snuggle up to your blow up dolly you loser.[/quote] Seems like a raw nerve has been exposed here by the attitude of this 'gentleman'
Presumably this is the root of the problem
hackneyed wrote:
sceptical wrote: Is this anything to do a with Hackney Carriage Licences worth between £20/£30k apiece because drivers can pick up anywhere? If so perhaps the Hackney licence ownersa are worried that their 'investment' might reduce in value if competition is opened up. Some one told me that that there are only 100 or so Hackney cabs licenced to operate out of the Docks.On busy days this is surely not enough to cater for the cruise passenger need especially as quite a few Hackneys are on contract work during school term time and the main requirement is when cruise ship passengers get off ie between 8/9 am
Why don't you f @@k off to bed you boring t@at. You obviously have no clue what your'e talking about. So off you go and snuggle up to your blow up dolly you loser.
Seems like a raw nerve has been exposed here by the attitude of this 'gentleman'
Presumably this is the root of the problem
Posted by: Caroline, lee's back pocket on 10:22am Wed 6 Aug 08
I would just like to say that i totally disagree with everything Lee is doing. Sorry Lee.
I would just like to say that i totally disagree with everything Lee is doing. Sorry Lee.
Posted by: poxy taxis, rip offs on 10:27am Wed 6 Aug 08
Taxis a summary, they are always late, don't know were they are going, take the slowest longest route and the drivers act stupid and cannot speak ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE THEM ALL. Not to mention they have bald tyres too.
Taxis a summary, they are always late, don't know were they are going, take the slowest longest route and the drivers act stupid and cannot speak ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE THEM ALL. Not to mention they have bald tyres too.
Posted by: peedos, so'ton on 10:30am Wed 6 Aug 08
A policeman told me once that all taxi drivers are either on their way to prison or have just been released from prison.
A policeman told me once that all taxi drivers are either on their way to prison or have just been released from prison.
Posted by: Be your own Boss, soton on 11:40am Wed 6 Aug 08
The whole industry is corrupt,especially the firms.You pay £80/£100 a week to keep them afloat and all they do is look after their favourites.They even let some drivers go into the office so that they can pick their own jobs.If you want to go far in this industry you have to have a long tongue,be nice to the office staff and be prepared to give back handers.If you cannot lower yourselves to do this then I suggest form your own company.
The whole industry is corrupt,especially the firms.You pay £80/£100 a week to keep them afloat and all they do is look after their favourites.They even let some drivers go into the office so that they can pick their own jobs.If you want to go far in this industry you have to have a long tongue,be nice to the office staff and be prepared to give back handers.If you cannot lower yourselves to do this then I suggest form your own company.
Posted by: here here, eastleigh on 11:46am Wed 6 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Be your own Boss[/bold] wrote:
The whole industry is corrupt,especially the firms.You pay £80/£100 a week to keep them afloat and all they do is look after their favourites.They even let some drivers go into the office so that they can pick their own jobs.If you want to go far in this industry you have to have a long tongue,be nice to the office staff and be prepared to give back handers.If you cannot lower yourselves to do this then I suggest form your own company.[/quote] You must work for A T S.
Be your own Boss wrote:
The whole industry is corrupt,especially the firms.You pay £80/£100 a week to keep them afloat and all they do is look after their favourites.They even let some drivers go into the office so that they can pick their own jobs.If you want to go far in this industry you have to have a long tongue,be nice to the office staff and be prepared to give back handers.If you cannot lower yourselves to do this then I suggest form your own company.
You must work for A T S.
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 1:08pm Wed 6 Aug 08
run the trains back in there again to take passengers to the airport and else where,
run the trains back in there again to take passengers to the airport and else where,
Posted by: Rock and roll on 2:18pm Wed 6 Aug 08
[quote] freeda smith, southampton on 8:03am today
I get a taxi from central shirley cabs at least 3 times a week and they are always prompt and smart. Ive never had any problem with the drivers or the taxi being late, where as when i used west quay, i found the staff rather rude and scruffy. Central shirley cars also dont have a boundry charge. All in all im very happy with the service.
[/quote]
Another fat old dog of a hackney wife, trying to stand by her disgusting sweaty burger seeping stinker of a husband.
No one likes Hackneys, as they are thieves. Their personal hygiene is that of any number of dying animal, too lazy or unfit to clean themselves, where euthanasia would be the better option.
Hackney or private, you are all the same robbing sc"m. Trying to differentiate between the 2, is asking do you want sh!t on your dinner or puke.
freeda smith, southampton on 8:03am today
I get a taxi from central shirley cabs at least 3 times a week and they are always prompt and smart. Ive never had any problem with the drivers or the taxi being late, where as when i used west quay, i found the staff rather rude and scruffy. Central shirley cars also dont have a boundry charge. All in all im very happy with the service.
Another fat old dog of a hackney wife, trying to stand by her disgusting sweaty burger seeping stinker of a husband.
No one likes Hackneys, as they are thieves. Their personal hygiene is that of any number of dying animal, too lazy or unfit to clean themselves, where euthanasia would be the better option.
Hackney or private, you are all the same robbing sc"m. Trying to differentiate between the 2, is asking do you want sh!t on your dinner or puke.
Posted by: Harry Houdini on 2:46pm Wed 6 Aug 08
There's only two words on how to deal with taxi drivers.
Dougie Latter
There's only two words on how to deal with taxi drivers.
Dougie Latter
Posted by: Katrina, Southampton on 3:09pm Wed 6 Aug 08
Pompey cabs are way better unfortunately, more timely, helpful and way cheaper. Take note Soton taxi drivers!!!
Pompey cabs are way better unfortunately, more timely, helpful and way cheaper. Take note Soton taxi drivers!!!
Posted by: freeda smith, southampton on 3:12pm Wed 6 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Rock and roll[/bold] wrote:
[quote] freeda smith, southampton on 8:03am today
I get a taxi from central shirley cabs at least 3 times a week and they are always prompt and smart. Ive never had any problem with the drivers or the taxi being late, where as when i used west quay, i found the staff rather rude and scruffy. Central shirley cars also dont have a boundry charge. All in all im very happy with the service.
[/quote]
Another fat old dog of a hackney wife, trying to stand by her disgusting sweaty burger seeping stinker of a husband.
No one likes Hackneys, as they are thieves. Their personal hygiene is that of any number of dying animal, too lazy or unfit to clean themselves, where euthanasia would be the better option.
Hackney or private, you are all the same robbing sc\\\"m. Trying to differentiate between the 2, is asking do you want sh!t on your dinner or puke.
[/quote] Im sorry, ur obviously to stupid to realise tht central shirley are pre booked cabs, so im not a hackney wife.... try reading more carefully, theres a good little boy.
Rock and roll wrote:
freeda smith, southampton on 8:03am today
I get a taxi from central shirley cabs at least 3 times a week and they are always prompt and smart. Ive never had any problem with the drivers or the taxi being late, where as when i used west quay, i found the staff rather rude and scruffy. Central shirley cars also dont have a boundry charge. All in all im very happy with the service.
Another fat old dog of a hackney wife, trying to stand by her disgusting sweaty burger seeping stinker of a husband.
No one likes Hackneys, as they are thieves. Their personal hygiene is that of any number of dying animal, too lazy or unfit to clean themselves, where euthanasia would be the better option.
Hackney or private, you are all the same robbing sc\\\"m. Trying to differentiate between the 2, is asking do you want sh!t on your dinner or puke.
Im sorry, ur obviously to stupid to realise tht central shirley are pre booked cabs, so im not a hackney wife.... try reading more carefully, theres a good little boy.
Posted by: Rock and roll on 3:38pm Wed 6 Aug 08
You are right, i didn't bother reading it, as you are just a greedy wife of a fat useless loser.
My point was not what side you were arguing for, but why you were arguing.
It's the same ending, you are a fat lazy wife, with a fat useless husband.
I don't read the rubbish, just seek out filth like you and their motives.
You are not interested in the public, or the good of your sweaty lumps colleagues, you are interested in how your fat little fingers can grab more cash, to spend on more chips, smokes and diet pills.
Now run along, there's a good little dog.
You are right, i didn't bother reading it, as you are just a greedy wife of a fat useless loser.
My point was not what side you were arguing for, but why you were arguing.
It's the same ending, you are a fat lazy wife, with a fat useless husband.
I don't read the rubbish, just seek out filth like you and their motives.
You are not interested in the public, or the good of your sweaty lumps colleagues, you are interested in how your fat little fingers can grab more cash, to spend on more chips, smokes and diet pills.
Now run along, there's a good little dog.
Posted by: freeda smith, southampton on 4:03pm Wed 6 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Rock and roll[/bold] wrote:
You are right, i didn\'t bother reading it, as you are just a greedy wife of a fat useless loser.
My point was not what side you were arguing for, but why you were arguing.
It\'s the same ending, you are a fat lazy wife, with a fat useless husband.
I don\'t read the rubbish, just seek out filth like you and their motives.
You are not interested in the public, or the good of your sweaty lumps colleagues, you are interested in how your fat little fingers can grab more cash, to spend on more chips, smokes and diet pills.
Now run along, there\'s a good little dog.[/quote] haha, do u realise how sad u look, searching the dailey echo website looking for people to talk too, poor little sad man, ur right hand is ur only friend.... try going out and earning urself a living... good boy.
Rock and roll wrote:
You are right, i didn\'t bother reading it, as you are just a greedy wife of a fat useless loser.
My point was not what side you were arguing for, but why you were arguing.
It\'s the same ending, you are a fat lazy wife, with a fat useless husband.
I don\'t read the rubbish, just seek out filth like you and their motives.
You are not interested in the public, or the good of your sweaty lumps colleagues, you are interested in how your fat little fingers can grab more cash, to spend on more chips, smokes and diet pills.
Now run along, there\'s a good little dog.
haha, do u realise how sad u look, searching the dailey echo website looking for people to talk too, poor little sad man, ur right hand is ur only friend.... try going out and earning urself a living... good boy.
Posted by: Lowe and behold, St Marys hotseat on 4:20pm Wed 6 Aug 08
[quote][bold]freeda smith[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Rock and roll[/bold] wrote: You are right, i didn\'t bother reading it, as you are just a greedy wife of a fat useless loser. My point was not what side you were arguing for, but why you were arguing. It\'s the same ending, you are a fat lazy wife, with a fat useless husband. I don\'t read the rubbish, just seek out filth like you and their motives. You are not interested in the public, or the good of your sweaty lumps colleagues, you are interested in how your fat little fingers can grab more cash, to spend on more chips, smokes and diet pills. Now run along, there\'s a good little dog.[/quote] haha, do u realise how sad u look, searching the dailey echo website looking for people to talk too, poor little sad man, ur right hand is ur only friend.... try going out and earning urself a living... good boy.[/quote] Your firm is sh*t the only reason you lot are still around is because you rob all those who visit SGH.
You robbing sc*m kebab munching fa**ies
freeda smith wrote:
Rock and roll wrote: You are right, i didn\'t bother reading it, as you are just a greedy wife of a fat useless loser. My point was not what side you were arguing for, but why you were arguing. It\'s the same ending, you are a fat lazy wife, with a fat useless husband. I don\'t read the rubbish, just seek out filth like you and their motives. You are not interested in the public, or the good of your sweaty lumps colleagues, you are interested in how your fat little fingers can grab more cash, to spend on more chips, smokes and diet pills. Now run along, there\'s a good little dog.
haha, do u realise how sad u look, searching the dailey echo website looking for people to talk too, poor little sad man, ur right hand is ur only friend.... try going out and earning urself a living... good boy.
Your firm is sh*t the only reason you lot are still around is because you rob all those who visit SGH.
You robbing sc*m kebab munching fa**ies
Posted by: freeda smith, southampton on 4:30pm Wed 6 Aug 08
Well find them very polite and therefore and still going to use them, whatever u have to say. You seem to know a lot about them?
Well find them very polite and therefore and still going to use them, whatever u have to say. You seem to know a lot about them?
Posted by: Rock and roll on 7:19pm Wed 6 Aug 08
You are right, i didn't bother reading it, as you are just a greedy wife of a fat useless loser.
My point was not what side you were arguing for, but why you were arguing.
It's the same ending, you are a fat lazy wife, with a fat useless husband.
I don't read the rubbish, just seek out filth like you and their motives.
You are not interested in the public, or the good of your sweaty lumps colleagues, you are interested in how your fat little fingers can grab more cash, to spend on more chips, smokes and diet pills.
Now run along, there's a good little dog.
I think you'll find, you thick fat moose, the words you so sadly failed to type - due to your good self and slob of a husband being brother and sister - were;
to not too
Daily not dailey
Yourself not urself
You not u
Your not ur
Luckily, i have the nice position of being paid for what i know, so i can sit on my ar$e and watch sc"m like you and burger bar Barry, try extremely hard - but without success - bully your way into making more burger and Kebab money. Sc"m begging filth!
Run along you fat skunk breath lump of lard.
Hello Lowe, you know what they say, If you want a fat greasy excuse of a life to drive you around to all the prostitutes of the town, of which they take favours for fares, phone a taxi driver, If on the other hand you want a large monstrosity who's body odour could sink a ship from two miles, phone his great big fat gut buster sl@pper of a wife.
You are right, i didn't bother reading it, as you are just a greedy wife of a fat useless loser.
My point was not what side you were arguing for, but why you were arguing.
It's the same ending, you are a fat lazy wife, with a fat useless husband.
I don't read the rubbish, just seek out filth like you and their motives.
You are not interested in the public, or the good of your sweaty lumps colleagues, you are interested in how your fat little fingers can grab more cash, to spend on more chips, smokes and diet pills.
Now run along, there's a good little dog.
I think you'll find, you thick fat moose, the words you so sadly failed to type - due to your good self and slob of a husband being brother and sister - were;
to not too
Daily not dailey
Yourself not urself
You not u
Your not ur
Luckily, i have the nice position of being paid for what i know, so i can sit on my ar$e and watch sc"m like you and burger bar Barry, try extremely hard - but without success - bully your way into making more burger and Kebab money. Sc"m begging filth!
Run along you fat skunk breath lump of lard.
Hello Lowe, you know what they say, If you want a fat greasy excuse of a life to drive you around to all the prostitutes of the town, of which they take favours for fares, phone a taxi driver, If on the other hand you want a large monstrosity who's body odour could sink a ship from two miles, phone his great big fat gut buster sl@pper of a wife.
Posted by: Lowe and behold, St Marys hotseat on 1:50am Thu 7 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Rock and roll[/bold] wrote:
You are right, i didn't bother reading it, as you are just a greedy wife of a fat useless loser. My point was not what side you were arguing for, but why you were arguing. It's the same ending, you are a fat lazy wife, with a fat useless husband. I don't read the rubbish, just seek out filth like you and their motives. You are not interested in the public, or the good of your sweaty lumps colleagues, you are interested in how your fat little fingers can grab more cash, to spend on more chips, smokes and diet pills. Now run along, there's a good little dog. I think you'll find, you thick fat moose, the words you so sadly failed to type - due to your good self and slob of a husband being
