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JAN Poortvliet has revealed he is on the lookout for two new signings - a replacement for departed defender Andrew Davies and a new striker.
Centre-back Davies, last season's Daily Echo Fans' Player-of-The-Year, completed his move to Premier League new boys Stoke City yesterday for an undisclosed fee.
Davies's sale is the latest move by cash-strapped Saints in their bid to slash the wage bill. The same motive was a major factor in the recent decisions to send strikers Marek Saganowski and Grzegorz Rasiak out on loan to Danish side Aalborg and Watford respectively.
And Saints head coach Poortvliet is now searching for both defensive and attacking replacements to increase his options.
Poortvliet is well aware of the constraints placed on him as he goes about that search, due to Saints' current financial position.
But he remains confident that he will still be able to bring in the players he feels he needs.
He said: "Andrew is gone now and you need someone in the centre-half position because at the moment we haven't got a lot of people capable of playing there. We are also looking for a centre forward. We need to find a goal-scorer."
Full story in today's Daily Echo
6:00am Wednesday 20th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: skintsaint, Perth, WA on 6:10am Wed 20 Aug 08
Lets hope he brings in the right players.
Full backs wouldnt go amiss either ;)
Lets hope he brings in the right players.
Full backs wouldnt go amiss either ;)
Posted by: Correction on 6:22am Wed 20 Aug 08
Poortvliet had better hope that Rupert picks the correct players for him then. I doubt that Jan will have much say in who he can and can not sign. And where are all those quality loan players that Lowe promised us? I see that Derby are signing Arsenal youngsters, why can't we?
Poortvliet had better hope that Rupert picks the correct players for him then. I doubt that Jan will have much say in who he can and can not sign. And where are all those quality loan players that Lowe promised us? I see that Derby are signing Arsenal youngsters, why can't we?
Posted by: Ian on 6:33am Wed 20 Aug 08
rupert lowe pick something good?
i'd love to see that day, i thought i'd seen it when he left the club but no. he just had to go f*** that up and come back and cause even more complete and utter chaos at the club when it was already in deep enough sh** fighting a relegation battle. we just need to get a whole new board, one that knows what they're doing and isn't in it for the money. someone who actually knows what they're doing. biggest mistake i believe was letting nigel pearson go, courtesy of rupert lowe. i have sat by and thought things will get better, and kept supporting them as things kept getting worse and worse, and now enough is enough, get rid of every pinheaded idiot in the entire board and bring in someone with even a slight bit of football common sense!
come on you saints!!!
rupert lowe pick something good?
i'd love to see that day, i thought i'd seen it when he left the club but no. he just had to go f*** that up and come back and cause even more complete and utter chaos at the club when it was already in deep enough sh** fighting a relegation battle. we just need to get a whole new board, one that knows what they're doing and isn't in it for the money. someone who actually knows what they're doing. biggest mistake i believe was letting nigel pearson go, courtesy of rupert lowe. i have sat by and thought things will get better, and kept supporting them as things kept getting worse and worse, and now enough is enough, get rid of every pinheaded idiot in the entire board and bring in someone with even a slight bit of football common sense!
come on you saints!!!
Posted by: ossiesaint, at the bar on 6:36am Wed 20 Aug 08
Makes good economical sense, players on "big money" not playing..his main signing Wooton not in starting line up and he JP wants a defender and striker..pay peanuts you get monkey's. Lowe thanks for killing our club!
Makes good economical sense, players on "big money" not playing..his main signing Wooton not in starting line up and he JP wants a defender and striker..pay peanuts you get monkey's. Lowe thanks for killing our club!
Posted by: therogermoore, unfortunately the realworld on 6:41am Wed 20 Aug 08
The problem is that the loan players from the top clubs 'albeit nippers are on good contracts and their weekly wages are out of our league.
dont expept anything special
lowe out!!Barnett where's the money!!!!
The problem is that the loan players from the top clubs 'albeit nippers are on good contracts and their weekly wages are out of our league.
dont expept anything special
lowe out!!Barnett where's the money!!!!
Posted by: Saints Fan on 6:44am Wed 20 Aug 08
"Two New Signings"
Replacements for Rupert Lowe and Micheal Judas Wilde.
"Two New Signings"
Replacements for Rupert Lowe and Micheal Judas Wilde.
Posted by: saintly, THE FARMYARD on 7:14am Wed 20 Aug 08
Word has it that a player called [bold]EEAW[/bold] is on the verge of signing. His wages fit in with the wage structure [bold]2 BAGS OF CARROTTS A DAY.[/bold] He will certainly feel at home with all the other DONKEYS like Perry and Svenson !
[bold]HEEHAW HEEHAW HEEHAW[/bold]
Word has it that a player called
EEAW is on the verge of signing. His wages fit in with the wage structure
2 BAGS OF CARROTTS A DAY. He will certainly feel at home with all the other DONKEYS like Perry and Svenson !
HEEHAW HEEHAW HEEHAW Posted by: Artful Dodger, Millbrook on 7:37am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]saintly[/bold] wrote:
Word has it that a player called [bold]EEAW[/bold] is on the verge of signing. His wages fit in with the wage structure [bold]2 BAGS OF CARROTTS A DAY.[/bold] He will certainly feel at home with all the other DONKEYS like Perry and Svenson ! [bold]HEEHAW HEEHAW HEEHAW[/bold] [/quote] Great news!
As it would appear that they are members of your family, perhaps we can rely on you to sponsor them.
saintly wrote:
Word has it that a player called EEAW is on the verge of signing. His wages fit in with the wage structure 2 BAGS OF CARROTTS A DAY. He will certainly feel at home with all the other DONKEYS like Perry and Svenson ! HEEHAW HEEHAW HEEHAW
Great news!
As it would appear that they are members of your family, perhaps we can rely on you to sponsor them.
Posted by: ever hopeful, southampton on 7:48am Wed 20 Aug 08
CHRIS BAIRD WOULD BE A GOOD START......AND HOW ABOUT DAVID NUGENT??
CHRIS BAIRD WOULD BE A GOOD START......AND HOW ABOUT DAVID NUGENT??
Posted by: Ever mental on 8:05am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]ever hopeful[/bold] wrote:
CHRIS BAIRD WOULD BE A GOOD START......AND HOW ABOUT DAVID NUGENT?? [/quote] Nugent is on £35,000 a week at Pompey. Saints can afford to pay him £35 per week (plus free use of Rupert's gentleman and swingers club).
ever hopeful wrote:
CHRIS BAIRD WOULD BE A GOOD START......AND HOW ABOUT DAVID NUGENT??
Nugent is on £35,000 a week at Pompey. Saints can afford to pay him £35 per week (plus free use of Rupert's gentleman and swingers club).
Posted by: True Blue, Fareham on 8:26am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Ever mental[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ever hopeful[/bold] wrote: CHRIS BAIRD WOULD BE A GOOD START......AND HOW ABOUT DAVID NUGENT?? [/quote] Nugent is on £35,000 a week at Pompey. Saints can afford to pay him £35 per week (plus free use of Rupert's gentleman and swingers club).[/quote] According to The News, Nugent wishes to continue his career in football, which would appear to rule out a loan move to 'The graveyard of football'.
Ever mental wrote:
ever hopeful wrote: CHRIS BAIRD WOULD BE A GOOD START......AND HOW ABOUT DAVID NUGENT??
Nugent is on £35,000 a week at Pompey. Saints can afford to pay him £35 per week (plus free use of Rupert's gentleman and swingers club).
According to The News, Nugent wishes to continue his career in football, which would appear to rule out a loan move to 'The graveyard of football'.
Posted by: Dean, Southampton on 8:41am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]True Blue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ever mental[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]ever hopeful[/bold] wrote: CHRIS BAIRD WOULD BE A GOOD START......AND HOW ABOUT DAVID NUGENT?? [/quote] Nugent is on £35,000 a week at Pompey. Saints can afford to pay him £35 per week (plus free use of Rupert's gentleman and swingers club).[/quote] According to The News, Nugent wishes to continue his career in football, which would appear to rule out a loan move to 'The graveyard of football'.[/quote] True,
he is already 6 feet under at the burst bubble of PFC.
True Blue wrote:
Ever mental wrote: ever hopeful wrote: CHRIS BAIRD WOULD BE A GOOD START......AND HOW ABOUT DAVID NUGENT??
Nugent is on £35,000 a week at Pompey. Saints can afford to pay him £35 per week (plus free use of Rupert's gentleman and swingers club).
According to The News, Nugent wishes to continue his career in football, which would appear to rule out a loan move to 'The graveyard of football'.
True,
he is already 6 feet under at the burst bubble of PFC.
Posted by: Major Sir Jerry Pending, Ward 10 on 8:53am Wed 20 Aug 08
I thought Wayne Thomas was a centre half and also that Wotton & Schneiderlin could play there as well, so strange that JP wants to sign a centre half and not two full backs which are currently lacking.
I thought Wayne Thomas was a centre half and also that Wotton & Schneiderlin could play there as well, so strange that JP wants to sign a centre half and not two full backs which are currently lacking.
Posted by: mullingar on 9:05am Wed 20 Aug 08
We will be signing a left back to replace Surman soon who is off to Reading - Ian Harte is at Staplewood this week and he will be signed as the new left back!
We will be signing a left back to replace Surman soon who is off to Reading - Ian Harte is at Staplewood this week and he will be signed as the new left back!
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 9:18am Wed 20 Aug 08
14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right.
14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right.
Posted by: Danny, Southampton of course on 9:20am Wed 20 Aug 08
Maybe we should all start supporting salisbury? get ourselves all fixed up for two seasons time when we're in the same division?
Maybe we should all start supporting salisbury? get ourselves all fixed up for two seasons time when we're in the same division?
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 9:20am Wed 20 Aug 08
I thought Harte was at Wolves, a good player desperate for a club I suppose. Alan Bennett's at Brentford but has been told to find another club by Reading. I thought Anthony Pulis was coming as part of the Davies deal?
I thought Harte was at Wolves, a good player desperate for a club I suppose. Alan Bennett's at Brentford but has been told to find another club by Reading. I thought Anthony Pulis was coming as part of the Davies deal?
Posted by: Question on 9:24am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right. [/quote] Graham, as these negative comments seem to upset you so much, why do you bother reading them? They are just comments at the end of the day, I seriously doubt they have any impact on people either supporting or not supporting Saints. Certainly won't have any impact on how our beloved Chairmen run the club. Certainly won't effect the players either, as most of them struggle to use a computer or even read.
Graham wrote:
14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right.
Graham, as these negative comments seem to upset you so much, why do you bother reading them? They are just comments at the end of the day, I seriously doubt they have any impact on people either supporting or not supporting Saints. Certainly won't have any impact on how our beloved Chairmen run the club. Certainly won't effect the players either, as most of them struggle to use a computer or even read.
Posted by: Epiphany on 9:26am Wed 20 Aug 08
I think it's good news that we're going to be making a couple of signings. Makes sense to clear out the bigger earners and bring in someone we can afford. I'd rather they sorted the finances out than we end up starting next season in League 1 with -15 points!
I think it's good news that we're going to be making a couple of signings. Makes sense to clear out the bigger earners and bring in someone we can afford. I'd rather they sorted the finances out than we end up starting next season in League 1 with -15 points!
Posted by: mullingar on 9:26am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote:
I thought Harte was at Wolves, a good player desperate for a club I suppose. Alan Bennett's at Brentford but has been told to find another club by Reading. I thought Anthony Pulis was coming as part of the Davies deal?[/quote] I don't think Wolves offered him a contract.
Condor Man wrote:
I thought Harte was at Wolves, a good player desperate for a club I suppose. Alan Bennett's at Brentford but has been told to find another club by Reading. I thought Anthony Pulis was coming as part of the Davies deal?
I don't think Wolves offered him a contract.
Posted by: Saint from Downunder, Woolgoolga Australia on 9:31am Wed 20 Aug 08
You lot are pathetic!!!!!!!!!! You have Olympic Champions representing Great Britain and the Southampton area... NOT ONE positive comment to congratulate what these sports people have acheived. All you do is winge and whine... With that attitude from the "FANS" of all things Southampton, what do you really expect...
You lot are pathetic!!!!!!!!!! You have Olympic Champions representing Great Britain and the Southampton area... NOT ONE positive comment to congratulate what these sports people have acheived. All you do is winge and whine... With that attitude from the "FANS" of all things Southampton, what do you really expect...
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 9:32am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Question[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: 14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right. [/quote] Graham, as these negative comments seem to upset you so much, why do you bother reading them? They are just comments at the end of the day, I seriously doubt they have any impact on people either supporting or not supporting Saints. Certainly won't have any impact on how our beloved Chairmen run the club. Certainly won't effect the players either, as most of them struggle to use a computer or even read.[/quote] I just wonder why people bother.
You either support the Club at a very difficult time or you don't and as I have said on a number of occasions i have a need to fight against stupidity, bigotory and intolerance - particulary when aimed against a great Club like ours.
I see them as the real enemy within.
Conspiracy theory or what.
A bit unkind about our footie players - struggle to even read?
Perhaps their Agents do all the difficult stuff for them!!
Question wrote:
Graham wrote: 14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right.
Graham, as these negative comments seem to upset you so much, why do you bother reading them? They are just comments at the end of the day, I seriously doubt they have any impact on people either supporting or not supporting Saints. Certainly won't have any impact on how our beloved Chairmen run the club. Certainly won't effect the players either, as most of them struggle to use a computer or even read.
I just wonder why people bother.
You either support the Club at a very difficult time or you don't and as I have said on a number of occasions i have a need to fight against stupidity, bigotory and intolerance - particulary when aimed against a great Club like ours.
I see them as the real enemy within.
Conspiracy theory or what.
A bit unkind about our footie players - struggle to even read?
Perhaps their Agents do all the difficult stuff for them!!
Posted by: Kate, Andover on 9:47am Wed 20 Aug 08
Good news that the club can afford a couple of new players...... Will they be to cover two players leaving though? Andrew Davies is obviously one, but will Surman go too? If not, who else will make room for a new player?
I would imagine anybody new coming in would be loanees not actual bought-and-paid-for players. Not that that will make a difference in quality.
I think the focus at the moment has to be right & left-backs. If Surman does go, who have we got?? Skacel will be going I'm sure (call me cynical but it's funny he's injured so close to the end of the transfer window........) so that doesn't leave anybody! We have enough strikers, they just need a bit of experience. That's why we have to keep hold of Stern John and even Bradley.
Anyone know what's happening with Dyer recently? Was he at the Fun Day yesterday??
Good news that the club can afford a couple of new players...... Will they be to cover two players leaving though? Andrew Davies is obviously one, but will Surman go too? If not, who else will make room for a new player?
I would imagine anybody new coming in would be loanees not actual bought-and-paid-for players. Not that that will make a difference in quality.
I think the focus at the moment has to be right & left-backs. If Surman does go, who have we got?? Skacel will be going I'm sure (call me cynical but it's funny he's injured so close to the end of the transfer window........) so that doesn't leave anybody! We have enough strikers, they just need a bit of experience. That's why we have to keep hold of Stern John and even Bradley.
Anyone know what's happening with Dyer recently? Was he at the Fun Day yesterday??
Posted by: Question on 9:47am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Question[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: 14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right. [/quote] Graham, as these negative comments seem to upset you so much, why do you bother reading them? They are just comments at the end of the day, I seriously doubt they have any impact on people either supporting or not supporting Saints. Certainly won't have any impact on how our beloved Chairmen run the club. Certainly won't effect the players either, as most of them struggle to use a computer or even read.[/quote] I just wonder why people bother. You either support the Club at a very difficult time or you don't and as I have said on a number of occasions i have a need to fight against stupidity, bigotory and intolerance - particulary when aimed against a great Club like ours. I see them as the real enemy within. Conspiracy theory or what. A bit unkind about our footie players - struggle to even read? Perhaps their Agents do all the difficult stuff for them!! [/quote] So why do you bother? Do you really think you will change anyone's mind with your points?
Intolerance works both ways, you seem intolerant of other peoples views as well.
You must be pretty naive to think that Saints are any different to every other club in the country. I bet even though Pompey are having the best time in 50 years, they still have some fans moaning about this or that.
Football fans moan, always have, always will.
Just that now, we have the wonderful internet so anyone can post anything and strangely, just because it's a written word and on a website, some people seem to add gravitas to it that shouldn't exist.
I just find it rather amusing how clearly wound up people get on here. There are surely more important things to be doing (says he wasting work time)
Graham wrote:
Question wrote: Graham wrote: 14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right.
Graham, as these negative comments seem to upset you so much, why do you bother reading them? They are just comments at the end of the day, I seriously doubt they have any impact on people either supporting or not supporting Saints. Certainly won't have any impact on how our beloved Chairmen run the club. Certainly won't effect the players either, as most of them struggle to use a computer or even read.
I just wonder why people bother. You either support the Club at a very difficult time or you don't and as I have said on a number of occasions i have a need to fight against stupidity, bigotory and intolerance - particulary when aimed against a great Club like ours. I see them as the real enemy within. Conspiracy theory or what. A bit unkind about our footie players - struggle to even read? Perhaps their Agents do all the difficult stuff for them!!
So why do you bother? Do you really think you will change anyone's mind with your points?
Intolerance works both ways, you seem intolerant of other peoples views as well.
You must be pretty naive to think that Saints are any different to every other club in the country. I bet even though Pompey are having the best time in 50 years, they still have some fans moaning about this or that.
Football fans moan, always have, always will.
Just that now, we have the wonderful internet so anyone can post anything and strangely, just because it's a written word and on a website, some people seem to add gravitas to it that shouldn't exist.
I just find it rather amusing how clearly wound up people get on here. There are surely more important things to be doing (says he wasting work time)
Posted by: Titrash on 10:08am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Saint from Downunder[/bold] wrote:
You lot are pathetic!!!!!!!!!! You have Olympic Champions representing Great Britain and the Southampton area... NOT ONE positive comment to congratulate what these sports people have acheived. All you do is winge and whine... With that attitude from the "FANS" of all things Southampton, what do you really expect...[/quote] Possibly because it's a section about our football club. Have you also noticed that nobody here has mentioned global warming, hamster anus infestation or teaching the blind how to roller skate?
Saint from Downunder wrote:
You lot are pathetic!!!!!!!!!! You have Olympic Champions representing Great Britain and the Southampton area... NOT ONE positive comment to congratulate what these sports people have acheived. All you do is winge and whine... With that attitude from the "FANS" of all things Southampton, what do you really expect...
Possibly because it's a section about our football club. Have you also noticed that nobody here has mentioned global warming, hamster anus infestation or teaching the blind how to roller skate?
Posted by: Jared, Southampton on 10:17am Wed 20 Aug 08
No one is going to want to sign for us! We are a terrible footballing side with poor attitudes, not to mention our financial status. Lets boycott Saints and get Lowe out! Anyone willing to go to the stadium and start rallying? Post back. BOYCOTT SAINTS!
No one is going to want to sign for us! We are a terrible footballing side with poor attitudes, not to mention our financial status. Lets boycott Saints and get Lowe out! Anyone willing to go to the stadium and start rallying? Post back. BOYCOTT SAINTS!
Posted by: Tony, Soton on 10:21am Wed 20 Aug 08
I AGREE BOYCOTT SAINTS!
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 10:22am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Question[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Question[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: 14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right. [/quote] Graham, as these negative comments seem to upset you so much, why do you bother reading them? They are just comments at the end of the day, I seriously doubt they have any impact on people either supporting or not supporting Saints. Certainly won't have any impact on how our beloved Chairmen run the club. Certainly won't effect the players either, as most of them struggle to use a computer or even read.[/quote] I just wonder why people bother. You either support the Club at a very difficult time or you don't and as I have said on a number of occasions i have a need to fight against stupidity, bigotory and intolerance - particulary when aimed against a great Club like ours. I see them as the real enemy within. Conspiracy theory or what. A bit unkind about our footie players - struggle to even read? Perhaps their Agents do all the difficult stuff for them!! [/quote] So why do you bother? Do you really think you will change anyone's mind with your points? Intolerance works both ways, you seem intolerant of other peoples views as well. You must be pretty naive to think that Saints are any different to every other club in the country. I bet even though Pompey are having the best time in 50 years, they still have some fans moaning about this or that. Football fans moan, always have, always will. Just that now, we have the wonderful internet so anyone can post anything and strangely, just because it's a written word and on a website, some people seem to add gravitas to it that shouldn't exist. I just find it rather amusing how clearly wound up people get on here. There are surely more important things to be doing (says he wasting work time)[/quote] Unlike you, you rascal, I'm now retired.
When I worked the B**sards in charge had software that monitored what people were up to on the internet - hope your Management isn't quite as nasty.
I'm not intolerant of other peoples views, I only react to the things mentioned in previous post.
I guess that makes me sad but I still love the Club.
You're right, of course, in the overall scheme of life, football is nothing
Question wrote:
Graham wrote: Question wrote: Graham wrote: 14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right.
Graham, as these negative comments seem to upset you so much, why do you bother reading them? They are just comments at the end of the day, I seriously doubt they have any impact on people either supporting or not supporting Saints. Certainly won't have any impact on how our beloved Chairmen run the club. Certainly won't effect the players either, as most of them struggle to use a computer or even read.
I just wonder why people bother. You either support the Club at a very difficult time or you don't and as I have said on a number of occasions i have a need to fight against stupidity, bigotory and intolerance - particulary when aimed against a great Club like ours. I see them as the real enemy within. Conspiracy theory or what. A bit unkind about our footie players - struggle to even read? Perhaps their Agents do all the difficult stuff for them!!
So why do you bother? Do you really think you will change anyone's mind with your points? Intolerance works both ways, you seem intolerant of other peoples views as well. You must be pretty naive to think that Saints are any different to every other club in the country. I bet even though Pompey are having the best time in 50 years, they still have some fans moaning about this or that. Football fans moan, always have, always will. Just that now, we have the wonderful internet so anyone can post anything and strangely, just because it's a written word and on a website, some people seem to add gravitas to it that shouldn't exist. I just find it rather amusing how clearly wound up people get on here. There are surely more important things to be doing (says he wasting work time)
Unlike you, you rascal, I'm now retired.
When I worked the B**sards in charge had software that monitored what people were up to on the internet - hope your Management isn't quite as nasty.
I'm not intolerant of other peoples views, I only react to the things mentioned in previous post.
I guess that makes me sad but I still love the Club.
You're right, of course, in the overall scheme of life, football is nothing
Posted by: Artful Dodger, Mollbrook on 10:24am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Saint from Downunder[/bold] wrote:
You lot are pathetic!!!!!!!!!! You have Olympic Champions representing Great Britain and the Southampton area... NOT ONE positive comment to congratulate what these sports people have acheived. All you do is winge and whine... With that attitude from the "FANS" of all things Southampton, what do you really expect...[/quote] You want a Positive comment?
I am Positive that Saints will go into administration.
I am Positive that points will be deducted.
I am Positive that Saints will be relegated.
How's that for three Positive comments?
Saint from Downunder wrote:
You lot are pathetic!!!!!!!!!! You have Olympic Champions representing Great Britain and the Southampton area... NOT ONE positive comment to congratulate what these sports people have acheived. All you do is winge and whine... With that attitude from the "FANS" of all things Southampton, what do you really expect...
You want a Positive comment?
I am Positive that Saints will go into administration.
I am Positive that points will be deducted.
I am Positive that Saints will be relegated.
How's that for three Positive comments?
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 10:25am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Question[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Question[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: 14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right. [/quote] Graham, as these negative comments seem to upset you so much, why do you bother reading them? They are just comments at the end of the day, I seriously doubt they have any impact on people either supporting or not supporting Saints. Certainly won't have any impact on how our beloved Chairmen run the club. Certainly won't effect the players either, as most of them struggle to use a computer or even read.[/quote] I just wonder why people bother. You either support the Club at a very difficult time or you don't and as I have said on a number of occasions i have a need to fight against stupidity, bigotory and intolerance - particulary when aimed against a great Club like ours. I see them as the real enemy within. Conspiracy theory or what. A bit unkind about our footie players - struggle to even read? Perhaps their Agents do all the difficult stuff for them!! [/quote] So why do you bother? Do you really think you will change anyone's mind with your points? Intolerance works both ways, you seem intolerant of other peoples views as well. You must be pretty naive to think that Saints are any different to every other club in the country. I bet even though Pompey are having the best time in 50 years, they still have some fans moaning about this or that. Football fans moan, always have, always will. Just that now, we have the wonderful internet so anyone can post anything and strangely, just because it's a written word and on a website, some people seem to add gravitas to it that shouldn't exist. I just find it rather amusing how clearly wound up people get on here. There are surely more important things to be doing (says he wasting work time)[/quote] Unlike you, you rascal, I'm now retired. When I worked the B**sards in charge had software that monitored what people were up to on the internet - hope your Management isn't quite as nasty. I'm not intolerant of other peoples views, I only react to the things mentioned in previous post. I guess that makes me sad but I still love the Club. You're right, of course, in the overall scheme of life, football is nothing[/quote] Forgot to add, I'm simple as well and I think to myself - wouldn't it be really great if you opened up the site and saw an intelligent debate on who we might be signing and where they would play.
Constructive, supportive comments with a bit of quality debate would work wonders for Club morale (apart from the players who apparently can't read)
Graham wrote:
Question wrote: Graham wrote: Question wrote: Graham wrote: 14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right.
Graham, as these negative comments seem to upset you so much, why do you bother reading them? They are just comments at the end of the day, I seriously doubt they have any impact on people either supporting or not supporting Saints. Certainly won't have any impact on how our beloved Chairmen run the club. Certainly won't effect the players either, as most of them struggle to use a computer or even read.
I just wonder why people bother. You either support the Club at a very difficult time or you don't and as I have said on a number of occasions i have a need to fight against stupidity, bigotory and intolerance - particulary when aimed against a great Club like ours. I see them as the real enemy within. Conspiracy theory or what. A bit unkind about our footie players - struggle to even read? Perhaps their Agents do all the difficult stuff for them!!
So why do you bother? Do you really think you will change anyone's mind with your points? Intolerance works both ways, you seem intolerant of other peoples views as well. You must be pretty naive to think that Saints are any different to every other club in the country. I bet even though Pompey are having the best time in 50 years, they still have some fans moaning about this or that. Football fans moan, always have, always will. Just that now, we have the wonderful internet so anyone can post anything and strangely, just because it's a written word and on a website, some people seem to add gravitas to it that shouldn't exist. I just find it rather amusing how clearly wound up people get on here. There are surely more important things to be doing (says he wasting work time)
Unlike you, you rascal, I'm now retired. When I worked the B**sards in charge had software that monitored what people were up to on the internet - hope your Management isn't quite as nasty. I'm not intolerant of other peoples views, I only react to the things mentioned in previous post. I guess that makes me sad but I still love the Club. You're right, of course, in the overall scheme of life, football is nothing
Forgot to add, I'm simple as well and I think to myself - wouldn't it be really great if you opened up the site and saw an intelligent debate on who we might be signing and where they would play.
Constructive, supportive comments with a bit of quality debate would work wonders for Club morale (apart from the players who apparently can't read)
Posted by: Harry Fox, New Forest on 10:28am Wed 20 Aug 08
Only Saints could sell a perfectly good centre back and then go on the record as searching for a centre back!! If you didn't laugh you'd cry. Very soon we will be selling a perfectly good left wing-back and searching the market for another.
There is logic in this situation if you live in a cuckoo's nest.
Only Saints could sell a perfectly good centre back and then go on the record as searching for a centre back!! If you didn't laugh you'd cry. Very soon we will be selling a perfectly good left wing-back and searching the market for another.
There is logic in this situation if you live in a cuckoo's nest.
Posted by: Saint Ben, Basingstoke on 10:59am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mullingar[/bold] wrote:
We will be signing a left back to replace Surman soon who is off to Reading - Ian Harte is at Staplewood this week and he will be signed as the new left back![/quote]
Is this true??!?!?!
He's not a bad player, and a cracking free kick taker :-)
mullingar wrote:
We will be signing a left back to replace Surman soon who is off to Reading - Ian Harte is at Staplewood this week and he will be signed as the new left back!
Is this true??!?!?!
He's not a bad player, and a cracking free kick taker :-)
Posted by: leesaint, behindbluelines on 11:23am Wed 20 Aug 08
Why are people talking about us signing anyone. It was Jan saying he wanted to sign 2 players not Lowe saying we can. It is not going to happen is it. We will concede at leat two goals every game with the present full backs. We need to start scoring more then.
COYR
Why are people talking about us signing anyone. It was Jan saying he wanted to sign 2 players not Lowe saying we can. It is not going to happen is it. We will concede at leat two goals every game with the present full backs. We need to start scoring more then.
COYR
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 11:24am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Saint Ben[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]mullingar[/bold] wrote: We will be signing a left back to replace Surman soon who is off to Reading - Ian Harte is at Staplewood this week and he will be signed as the new left back![/quote] Is this true??!?!?! He's not a bad player, and a cracking free kick taker :-)[/quote] "However, Harte has also reportedly held talks with Ipswich manager Jim Magilton, while Leicester City are also said to be interested."
Saint Ben wrote:
mullingar wrote: We will be signing a left back to replace Surman soon who is off to Reading - Ian Harte is at Staplewood this week and he will be signed as the new left back!
Is this true??!?!?! He's not a bad player, and a cracking free kick taker :-)
"However, Harte has also reportedly held talks with Ipswich manager Jim Magilton, while Leicester City are also said to be interested."
Posted by: Optimist, Shirley on 11:29am Wed 20 Aug 08
The sums have been done.
To get the books to balance we have to sell.
We cannot offload some of our other higher earners, no-one wants them (on their terms).
Davies wanted to leave to play Premiership football, he does not have faith that within his two year contract he would have seen that here.
We now have the possibility of bringing in two players for the loss of one, I will wait and see who (if any) come in before I judge.
I suspect Lucketti may be back (Wages?), same as Perry, on a short term contract.
A striker? There must be many like Bentner and Campbell who would love the chance to prove themselves.
Davies is a great center but watch his lack of pace kill him in the Prem. He is a Champ player, and a very good one, but too expensive for us now.
We may struggle against Derby, but for our home games we really need to be behind the team. Especially in the second half if we flag.
The sums have been done.
To get the books to balance we have to sell.
We cannot offload some of our other higher earners, no-one wants them (on their terms).
Davies wanted to leave to play Premiership football, he does not have faith that within his two year contract he would have seen that here.
We now have the possibility of bringing in two players for the loss of one, I will wait and see who (if any) come in before I judge.
I suspect Lucketti may be back (Wages?), same as Perry, on a short term contract.
A striker? There must be many like Bentner and Campbell who would love the chance to prove themselves.
Davies is a great center but watch his lack of pace kill him in the Prem. He is a Champ player, and a very good one, but too expensive for us now.
We may struggle against Derby, but for our home games we really need to be behind the team. Especially in the second half if we flag.
Posted by: Jason, Salisbury on 11:35am Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Kate[/bold] wrote:
Good news that the club can afford a couple of new players...... Will they be to cover two players leaving though? Andrew Davies is obviously one, but will Surman go too? If not, who else will make room for a new player?
I would imagine anybody new coming in would be loanees not actual bought-and-paid-for players. Not that that will make a difference in quality.
I think the focus at the moment has to be right & left-backs. If Surman does go, who have we got?? Skacel will be going I'm sure (call me cynical but it's funny he's injured so close to the end of the transfer window........) so that doesn't leave anybody! We have enough strikers, they just need a bit of experience. That's why we have to keep hold of Stern John and even Bradley.
Anyone know what's happening with Dyer recently? Was he at the Fun Day yesterday??[/quote] I'm not sure, but I did see someone running off with a little boy's ice cream. Might have been him.
Kate wrote:
Good news that the club can afford a couple of new players...... Will they be to cover two players leaving though? Andrew Davies is obviously one, but will Surman go too? If not, who else will make room for a new player?
I would imagine anybody new coming in would be loanees not actual bought-and-paid-for players. Not that that will make a difference in quality.
I think the focus at the moment has to be right & left-backs. If Surman does go, who have we got?? Skacel will be going I'm sure (call me cynical but it's funny he's injured so close to the end of the transfer window........) so that doesn't leave anybody! We have enough strikers, they just need a bit of experience. That's why we have to keep hold of Stern John and even Bradley.
Anyone know what's happening with Dyer recently? Was he at the Fun Day yesterday??
I'm not sure, but I did see someone running off with a little boy's ice cream. Might have been him.
Posted by: TRUE SAINT, Skate Free City on 11:36am Wed 20 Aug 08
DROVE PAST SMS EARLIER & SAW SLEEPY JOE KIRKUP & BIG RON DAVIES
DROVE PAST SMS EARLIER & SAW SLEEPY JOE KIRKUP & BIG RON DAVIES
Posted by: Elvis, Romsey on 11:53am Wed 20 Aug 08
Interesting comments on this BBC link which may put our recent history and current plight into some perspective for those who still think spending is the way out and gives some idea of where the money has gone and the attitude of players to loyalty in this day and age.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/blogs/paulfletcher/
2008/08/madjeski_rig
ht_to_hit_out_at_w.h
tml#035131
Interesting comments on this BBC link which may put our recent history and current plight into some perspective for those who still think spending is the way out and gives some idea of where the money has gone and the attitude of players to loyalty in this day and age.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/blogs/paulfletcher/
2008/08/madjeski_rig
ht_to_hit_out_at_w.h
tml#035131
Posted by: saintjak, hants on 11:56am Wed 20 Aug 08
Delgado and Benali?
or Fraizer Campbell and Chris Baird on loan :)
Delgado and Benali?
or Fraizer Campbell and Chris Baird on loan :)
Posted by: TRICKY, New Forest on 12:07pm Wed 20 Aug 08
Mr lowe. You haven't changed
First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who's next 'Drew' . You're not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye's is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can't the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you're the right man to guide the club in the right direction?
Mr lowe. You haven't changed
First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who's next 'Drew' . You're not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye's is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can't the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you're the right man to guide the club in the right direction?
Posted by: Richie, Germany on 12:18pm Wed 20 Aug 08
I can set you all at ease - i have used the club 'guaranteed' answer service and can assure you all that the club made it quite clear we would have to sell players this summer so don't complain now. We are all treated very well and not ignored by the club.
Closing half the ground is to save 100k which cannot possibly be made up by selling 4,000 more tickets over the season and if we further reduced prices that would be a gamble which we cannot afford to take. Don't even dare suggest perhaps selling half our team and playing the youth team is a gamble - Rupert doesn't think so.
I am so happy now - it is all paranoia to feel badly treated or ignored.
We are not going bust at all - we are going up and we can even sell a few youth players at Christmas to pay for the turkey.
HAPPY DAYS - WE ARE SAINTS - WE HAVE THE BEST BOARD IN THE WORLD
I can set you all at ease - i have used the club 'guaranteed' answer service and can assure you all that the club made it quite clear we would have to sell players this summer so don't complain now. We are all treated very well and not ignored by the club.
Closing half the ground is to save 100k which cannot possibly be made up by selling 4,000 more tickets over the season and if we further reduced prices that would be a gamble which we cannot afford to take. Don't even dare suggest perhaps selling half our team and playing the youth team is a gamble - Rupert doesn't think so.
I am so happy now - it is all paranoia to feel badly treated or ignored.
We are not going bust at all - we are going up and we can even sell a few youth players at Christmas to pay for the turkey.
HAPPY DAYS - WE ARE SAINTS - WE HAVE THE BEST BOARD IN THE WORLD
Posted by: jamie, cowes on 12:28pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Jared[/bold] wrote:
No one is going to want to sign for us! We are a terrible footballing side with poor attitudes, not to mention our financial status. Lets boycott Saints and get Lowe out! Anyone willing to go to the stadium and start rallying? Post back. BOYCOTT SAINTS![/quote] imbecile ! Good riddance to you.
Jared wrote:
No one is going to want to sign for us! We are a terrible footballing side with poor attitudes, not to mention our financial status. Lets boycott Saints and get Lowe out! Anyone willing to go to the stadium and start rallying? Post back. BOYCOTT SAINTS!
imbecile ! Good riddance to you.
Posted by: dave on 12:36pm Wed 20 Aug 08
Are tickets free for this pantomime?
Are tickets free for this pantomime?
Posted by: threestands, Bournemouth on 12:46pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]TRICKY[/bold] wrote:
Mr lowe. You haven't changed First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who's next 'Drew' . You're not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye's is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can't the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you're the right man to guide the club in the right direction? [/quote] ?????
TRICKY wrote:
Mr lowe. You haven't changed First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who's next 'Drew' . You're not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye's is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can't the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you're the right man to guide the club in the right direction?
?????
Posted by: total football on 1:18pm Wed 20 Aug 08
whatever happened to paul allen's rumoured takeover of the club?
whatever happened to paul allen's rumoured takeover of the club?
Posted by: Baddesley Bolt, North Baddesley on 1:27pm Wed 20 Aug 08
Sorry this guy is giving kids a go, but under the usual Saints trait he will be gone soon if results were to be kept in a losing way.
Sorry you are toast!
Sorry this guy is giving kids a go, but under the usual Saints trait he will be gone soon if results were to be kept in a losing way.
Sorry you are toast!
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 2:04pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Elvis[/bold] wrote:
Interesting comments on this BBC link which may put our recent history and current plight into some perspective for those who still think spending is the way out and gives some idea of where the money has gone and the attitude of players to loyalty in this day and age. http://www.bbc.co.uk /blogs/paulfletcher/ 2008/08/madjeski_rig ht_to_hit_out_at_w.h tml#035131 [/quote] Really helpful. It looks like the facts from Reading are similar to the financial facts from SFC.
Madejski says "The difference between being here and being in the Premiership is a £22m deficit and we still have an enormous squad of players.
"Over the past three years we've spent everything that we've had - as everybody does.
"We try to do the best we can and we have a great model, but we're not wallowing in a lot of cash, I assure you of that.
"We've sold 14,000 season tickets and I'm delighted about that, but it pales in significance compared to last season.
"We have to cut our coat according to the cloth, and it ain't that good."
Deja vu?
Elvis wrote:
Interesting comments on this BBC link which may put our recent history and current plight into some perspective for those who still think spending is the way out and gives some idea of where the money has gone and the attitude of players to loyalty in this day and age. http://www.bbc.co.uk /blogs/paulfletcher/ 2008/08/madjeski_rig ht_to_hit_out_at_w.h tml#035131
Really helpful. It looks like the facts from Reading are similar to the financial facts from SFC.
Madejski says "The difference between being here and being in the Premiership is a £22m deficit and we still have an enormous squad of players.
"Over the past three years we've spent everything that we've had - as everybody does.
"We try to do the best we can and we have a great model, but we're not wallowing in a lot of cash, I assure you of that.
"We've sold 14,000 season tickets and I'm delighted about that, but it pales in significance compared to last season.
"We have to cut our coat according to the cloth, and it ain't that good."
Deja vu?
Posted by: 4eva red, never blue, out side harry\'s house with a sniper on 2:08pm Wed 20 Aug 08
yes dyer was at the fun day along with saga, not sure what is going on the with him, supposed to be on loan to that dutch club
COYR
yes dyer was at the fun day along with saga, not sure what is going on the with him, supposed to be on loan to that dutch club
COYR
Posted by: Al on 2:10pm Wed 20 Aug 08
Liverpool have sent us a loanee every season fo the past 3 so maybe one of Jan's signings will come from there.
The best way for Saints to be able to pay for better players and get automatic promotion etc. is to stop paying the bills and loans, accumulate the monies they earn over the season and then use it to buy a good squad for the next and as a result will be promoted in that season and in the Premiership for the 10/11 season
Liverpool have sent us a loanee every season fo the past 3 so maybe one of Jan's signings will come from there.
The best way for Saints to be able to pay for better players and get automatic promotion etc. is to stop paying the bills and loans, accumulate the monies they earn over the season and then use it to buy a good squad for the next and as a result will be promoted in that season and in the Premiership for the 10/11 season
Posted by: Costa Baz on 2:12pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[bold]"We are also looking for a centre forward. We need to find a goal-scorer."[/bold]
Take a look at the above quote from JP and answer the following question.
If you were Stern John and your goals, last season, had saved SFC from relegation, what would your response be to the above comment?
I know English is JP's 2nd language, but surely he should be intelligent enough to realise how this type of comment could be interpreted by his players?
Just a few extra words, such as "to compliment the strikers we already have etc", would be enough to keep his current strikers happy. Unless, of course, he wants SJ to leave?? High earner?? Not young?? Doesn't fit the game plan of youth players??
It wouldn't happen, would it?? Naaaaaaaa not at SMS.
Even McGoldrick, after scoring consistently throughout pre-season and since the season started, must be looking at that and thinking, WTF?
"We are also looking for a centre forward. We need to find a goal-scorer."
Take a look at the above quote from JP and answer the following question.
If you were Stern John and your goals, last season, had saved SFC from relegation, what would your response be to the above comment?
I know English is JP's 2nd language, but surely he should be intelligent enough to realise how this type of comment could be interpreted by his players?
Just a few extra words, such as "to compliment the strikers we already have etc", would be enough to keep his current strikers happy. Unless, of course, he wants SJ to leave?? High earner?? Not young?? Doesn't fit the game plan of youth players??
It wouldn't happen, would it?? Naaaaaaaa not at SMS.
Even McGoldrick, after scoring consistently throughout pre-season and since the season started, must be looking at that and thinking, WTF?
Posted by: john reid, bedford on 2:14pm Wed 20 Aug 08
once again we have sold an excellent young player, and for a lot less than I believe hes worth, lets hope there is a sell on clause. Ive said it before, we are going to struggle, and presumably we have to keep selling because of the finances. But lets not forget one thing, for those who actually go these youngsters are playing good football, and with his limited budget Portvliet is responsible for that. So ask questions of the board, hope someone comes in to bail us out, but please give these youngsters a chance, they could surprise us. - oh yes shame on you for the donkey bit on perry and svenson, if the whols side had their guts and spirit wed be top of the league COYR
once again we have sold an excellent young player, and for a lot less than I believe hes worth, lets hope there is a sell on clause. Ive said it before, we are going to struggle, and presumably we have to keep selling because of the finances. But lets not forget one thing, for those who actually go these youngsters are playing good football, and with his limited budget Portvliet is responsible for that. So ask questions of the board, hope someone comes in to bail us out, but please give these youngsters a chance, they could surprise us. - oh yes shame on you for the donkey bit on perry and svenson, if the whols side had their guts and spirit wed be top of the league COYR
Posted by: Tracey, Southampton on 2:17pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Correction[/bold] wrote:
Poortvliet had better hope that Rupert picks the correct players for him then. I doubt that Jan will have much say in who he can and can not sign. And where are all those quality loan players that Lowe promised us? I see that Derby are signing Arsenal youngsters, why can't we?[/quote] Maybe, just maybe Derby have more money to spend?
I'm sure JP will have a very big say in who gets signed, the only constraint will be the money situation.
Correction wrote:
Poortvliet had better hope that Rupert picks the correct players for him then. I doubt that Jan will have much say in who he can and can not sign. And where are all those quality loan players that Lowe promised us? I see that Derby are signing Arsenal youngsters, why can't we?
Maybe, just maybe Derby have more money to spend?
I'm sure JP will have a very big say in who gets signed, the only constraint will be the money situation.
Posted by: Saint 4 life, Lordswood on 2:30pm Wed 20 Aug 08
bloody hell!! We've only played 2 games against two of the best teams in the league and everyones going on as if we've been relagated.
Doesn't anyone remember how we've been playing???? wait untill we get that first win then see the run we'll have
bloody hell!! We've only played 2 games against two of the best teams in the league and everyones going on as if we've been relagated.
Doesn't anyone remember how we've been playing???? wait untill we get that first win then see the run we'll have
Posted by: John MacDonald, Southampton on 2:33pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[bold]\"We are also looking for a centre forward. We need to find a goal-scorer.\"[/bold] Take a look at the above quote from JP and answer the following question. If you were Stern John and your goals, last season, had saved SFC from relegation, what would your response be to the above comment? I know English is JP\'s 2nd language, but surely he should be intelligent enough to realise how this type of comment could be interpreted by his players? Just a few extra words, such as \"to compliment the strikers we already have etc\", would be enough to keep his current strikers happy. Unless, of course, he wants SJ to leave?? High earner?? Not young?? Doesn\'t fit the game plan of youth players?? It wouldn\'t happen, would it?? Naaaaaaaa not at SMS. Even McGoldrick, after scoring consistently throughout pre-season and since the season started, must be looking at that and thinking, WTF? [/quote] I agree, John, McGoldrick, BWP and even our youngsters Paterson and White must be thinking 'WTF - give us a chance and we'll do what we can!!!
Pathetic comments from a manager I was starting to think might just knock this bunch into shape.
Costa Baz wrote:
\"We are also looking for a centre forward. We need to find a goal-scorer.\" Take a look at the above quote from JP and answer the following question. If you were Stern John and your goals, last season, had saved SFC from relegation, what would your response be to the above comment? I know English is JP\'s 2nd language, but surely he should be intelligent enough to realise how this type of comment could be interpreted by his players? Just a few extra words, such as \"to compliment the strikers we already have etc\", would be enough to keep his current strikers happy. Unless, of course, he wants SJ to leave?? High earner?? Not young?? Doesn\'t fit the game plan of youth players?? It wouldn\'t happen, would it?? Naaaaaaaa not at SMS. Even McGoldrick, after scoring consistently throughout pre-season and since the season started, must be looking at that and thinking, WTF?
I agree, John, McGoldrick, BWP and even our youngsters Paterson and White must be thinking 'WTF - give us a chance and we'll do what we can!!!
Pathetic comments from a manager I was starting to think might just knock this bunch into shape.
Posted by: Tracey, Southampton on 2:36pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]TRICKY[/bold] wrote:
Mr lowe. You haven't changed First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who's next 'Drew' . You're not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye's is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can't the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you're the right man to guide the club in the right direction? [/quote] How do you suggest Saints pay the wages of these players then? You agree the club is losing money and and needs to balance the books, do you also know we only have the backing of the bank if we manage to stick with financial targets impossed on us by the bank?
TRICKY wrote:
Mr lowe. You haven't changed First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who's next 'Drew' . You're not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye's is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can't the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you're the right man to guide the club in the right direction?
How do you suggest Saints pay the wages of these players then? You agree the club is losing money and and needs to balance the books, do you also know we only have the backing of the bank if we manage to stick with financial targets impossed on us by the bank?
Posted by: Tracey, Southampton on 2:43pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[bold]\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"We are also looking for a centre forward. We need to find a goal-scorer.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"[/bold] Take a look at the above quote from JP and answer the following question. If you were Stern John and your goals, last season, had saved SFC from relegation, what would your response be to the above comment? I know English is JP\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s 2nd language, but surely he should be intelligent enough to realise how this type of comment could be interpreted by his players? Just a few extra words, such as \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"to compliment the strikers we already have etc\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\", would be enough to keep his current strikers happy. Unless, of course, he wants SJ to leave?? High earner?? Not young?? Doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t fit the game plan of youth players?? It wouldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t happen, would it?? Naaaaaaaa not at SMS. Even McGoldrick, after scoring consistently throughout pre-season and since the season started, must be looking at that and thinking, WTF? [/quote] Maybe JP has spoken to the players who might be worried to give them reasurances?
Costa Baz wrote:
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"We are also looking for a centre forward. We need to find a goal-scorer.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" Take a look at the above quote from JP and answer the following question. If you were Stern John and your goals, last season, had saved SFC from relegation, what would your response be to the above comment? I know English is JP\\\\\\\\\\\\'s 2nd language, but surely he should be intelligent enough to realise how this type of comment could be interpreted by his players? Just a few extra words, such as \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"to compliment the strikers we already have etc\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\", would be enough to keep his current strikers happy. Unless, of course, he wants SJ to leave?? High earner?? Not young?? Doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\'t fit the game plan of youth players?? It wouldn\\\\\\\\\\\\'t happen, would it?? Naaaaaaaa not at SMS. Even McGoldrick, after scoring consistently throughout pre-season and since the season started, must be looking at that and thinking, WTF?
Maybe JP has spoken to the players who might be worried to give them reasurances?
Posted by: Confucius, Itchen on 2:48pm Wed 20 Aug 08
Seats for the Blackpool match are £26. Programmes are £3. I am going to ask if I can sit on a programme.
Seats for the Blackpool match are £26. Programmes are £3. I am going to ask if I can sit on a programme.
Posted by: Richie, Germany on 2:57pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Confucius[/bold] wrote:
Seats for the Blackpool match are £26. Programmes are £3. I am going to ask if I can sit on a programme.[/quote] :-))))))))))))))))))
))))))
Confucius wrote:
Seats for the Blackpool match are £26. Programmes are £3. I am going to ask if I can sit on a programme.
:-))))))))))))))))))
))))))
Posted by: Costa Baz on 3:02pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Tracey[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]TRICKY[/bold] wrote: Mr lowe. You haven't changed First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who's next 'Drew' . You're not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye's is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can't the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you're the right man to guide the club in the right direction? [/quote] How do you suggest Saints pay the wages of these players then? You agree the club is losing money and and needs to balance the books, do you also know we only have the backing of the bank if we manage to stick with financial targets impossed on us by the bank?[/quote] Unfortunately the only people who know just how bad the financial plight of SFC is, are those few that are privy to the information, such as the bank and the board.
Only history, as in the release of the relevant documents detailing how the PLC has been run during this period, will reveal whether or not Mssrs Lowe & Wilde are selling players to save the club from going into administration or for any other purpose.
Equally unfortunate is the manner in which Mssrs Wilde & Lowe are perceived by many of the supporters of SFC.
With Mr Lowe's past record of selling players, despite going on record as saying the players in question were not for sale, it is understandable that many would now question the reasons for making the recent sales.
I just hope to God he is not exploiting our current situation for his own purpose and to fulfill a wish to fill the team with as many products of "his" academy, as he can, to justify the money he has previously spent on it.
Tracey wrote:
TRICKY wrote: Mr lowe. You haven't changed First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who's next 'Drew' . You're not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye's is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can't the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you're the right man to guide the club in the right direction?
How do you suggest Saints pay the wages of these players then? You agree the club is losing money and and needs to balance the books, do you also know we only have the backing of the bank if we manage to stick with financial targets impossed on us by the bank?
Unfortunately the only people who know just how bad the financial plight of SFC is, are those few that are privy to the information, such as the bank and the board.
Only history, as in the release of the relevant documents detailing how the PLC has been run during this period, will reveal whether or not Mssrs Lowe & Wilde are selling players to save the club from going into administration or for any other purpose.
Equally unfortunate is the manner in which Mssrs Wilde & Lowe are perceived by many of the supporters of SFC.
With Mr Lowe's past record of selling players, despite going on record as saying the players in question were not for sale, it is understandable that many would now question the reasons for making the recent sales.
I just hope to God he is not exploiting our current situation for his own purpose and to fulfill a wish to fill the team with as many products of "his" academy, as he can, to justify the money he has previously spent on it.
Posted by: devonSaint on 3:07pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[bold]bold[/bold] ***BREAKING NEWS***'Southampton Football Club is to host the football equivalent of the X Factor at St Mary's Stadium in a fortnights time in what is said to be a last minute bid to find a centre forward, the judging panel comprises of the unlikely trio Club Chairman Rupert Lowe, along with Saints legends Ali Dia and Agustin Delgado. The lucky winner will earn himself a 3 year contract at the struggling Championship club and it is hoped that revenue from the event will pay for both the player and his wages for his first 3 years. A number of key players from the Blue Square Premiership have been linked with the event who are hoping for a chance to save a once great club, it is rumoured that some of these players may have to take a pay cut in order leap frog up the leagues and have their chance in the spotlight. Chairman Rupert Lowe commented, “I’m thrilled, I don’t know why we haven’t done this before” the event will take place on Saturday 30th August at 5pm after the home match against Blackpool and tickets will be priced at £50 for adults and £40 for children, voting call charges are to be confirmed on the day’
***BREAKING NEWS***'Southampton Football Club is to host the football equivalent of the X Factor at St Mary's Stadium in a fortnights time in what is said to be a last minute bid to find a centre forward, the judging panel comprises of the unlikely trio Club Chairman Rupert Lowe, along with Saints legends Ali Dia and Agustin Delgado. The lucky winner will earn himself a 3 year contract at the struggling Championship club and it is hoped that revenue from the event will pay for both the player and his wages for his first 3 years. A number of key players from the Blue Square Premiership have been linked with the event who are hoping for a chance to save a once great club, it is rumoured that some of these players may have to take a pay cut in order leap frog up the leagues and have their chance in the spotlight. Chairman Rupert Lowe commented, “I’m thrilled, I don’t know why we haven’t done this before” the event will take place on Saturday 30th August at 5pm after the home match against Blackpool and tickets will be priced at £50 for adults and £40 for children, voting call charges are to be confirmed on the day’
Posted by: Dave, soton on 3:10pm Wed 20 Aug 08
Apparently Dyer and Wright-Phillips had fall out with the dutch one, prior to the brum game thats why they didn't play. Looks they will be next to go then!
Apparently Dyer and Wright-Phillips had fall out with the dutch one, prior to the brum game thats why they didn't play. Looks they will be next to go then!
Posted by: saint steve, southampton on 3:11pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mullingar[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: I thought Harte was at Wolves, a good player desperate for a club I suppose. Alan Bennett\'s at Brentford but has been told to find another club by Reading. I thought Anthony Pulis was coming as part of the Davies deal?[/quote] I don\'t think Wolves offered him a contract.[/quote] Wolves offered him a month to month contract, but I believe he turned it down. Would welcome Harte as we're lacking experience at the moment. Hope Surman stays though. Don't want Anthony Pulis here, he's sh*t! Alan Bennet did well for us, after a terrible start, but would also have him back. Maybe we can get some talented Dutch kids in.
mullingar wrote:
Condor Man wrote: I thought Harte was at Wolves, a good player desperate for a club I suppose. Alan Bennett\'s at Brentford but has been told to find another club by Reading. I thought Anthony Pulis was coming as part of the Davies deal?
I don\'t think Wolves offered him a contract.
Wolves offered him a month to month contract, but I believe he turned it down. Would welcome Harte as we're lacking experience at the moment. Hope Surman stays though. Don't want Anthony Pulis here, he's sh*t! Alan Bennet did well for us, after a terrible start, but would also have him back. Maybe we can get some talented Dutch kids in.
Posted by: Tracey, Southampton on 3:26pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Tracey[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]TRICKY[/bold] wrote: Mr lowe. You haven\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t changed First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s next \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'Drew\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\' . You\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re the right man to guide the club in the right direction? [/quote] How do you suggest Saints pay the wages of these players then? You agree the club is losing money and and needs to balance the books, do you also know we only have the backing of the bank if we manage to stick with financial targets impossed on us by the bank?[/quote] Unfortunately the only people who know just how bad the financial plight of SFC is, are those few that are privy to the information, such as the bank and the board. Only history, as in the release of the relevant documents detailing how the PLC has been run during this period, will reveal whether or not Mssrs Lowe & Wilde are selling players to save the club from going into administration or for any other purpose. Equally unfortunate is the manner in which Mssrs Wilde & Lowe are perceived by many of the supporters of SFC. With Mr Lowe\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s past record of selling players, despite going on record as saying the players in question were not for sale, it is understandable that many would now question the reasons for making the recent sales. I just hope to God he is not exploiting our current situation for his own purpose and to fulfill a wish to fill the team with as many products of \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"his\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" academy, as he can, to justify the money he has previously spent on it. [/quote] Costa,
Yes I know only those privy to the information know the actual extent of the situation we face, however it is quite possible to put together a fairly accurate picture of the situtation from what we see happening, high wage earners being moved out etc. Work in finance for a few years and you see how these things come together and how the banks call the shots. I don't believe for one minute that certain players being sold was a decission of the board, it has the bank written all over it, I think the board had in mind to sell certain players but as they have not (yet) been sold the bank has got involved and reminded the board of its commitments. I might be wrong but thats how I read it using my experience from working in finanace.
For the picture going forward we can look at the recent profits warning that was issued to the stock exchange, this may prove to be wrong if the fanancial situation can be improved or if things deteriorate but it can be used as a useful guide.
Costa Baz wrote:
Tracey wrote: TRICKY wrote: Mr lowe. You haven\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t changed First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s next \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'Drew\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\' . You\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re the right man to guide the club in the right direction?
How do you suggest Saints pay the wages of these players then? You agree the club is losing money and and needs to balance the books, do you also know we only have the backing of the bank if we manage to stick with financial targets impossed on us by the bank?
Unfortunately the only people who know just how bad the financial plight of SFC is, are those few that are privy to the information, such as the bank and the board. Only history, as in the release of the relevant documents detailing how the PLC has been run during this period, will reveal whether or not Mssrs Lowe & Wilde are selling players to save the club from going into administration or for any other purpose. Equally unfortunate is the manner in which Mssrs Wilde & Lowe are perceived by many of the supporters of SFC. With Mr Lowe\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s past record of selling players, despite going on record as saying the players in question were not for sale, it is understandable that many would now question the reasons for making the recent sales. I just hope to God he is not exploiting our current situation for his own purpose and to fulfill a wish to fill the team with as many products of \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"his\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" academy, as he can, to justify the money he has previously spent on it.
Costa,
Yes I know only those privy to the information know the actual extent of the situation we face, however it is quite possible to put together a fairly accurate picture of the situtation from what we see happening, high wage earners being moved out etc. Work in finance for a few years and you see how these things come together and how the banks call the shots. I don't believe for one minute that certain players being sold was a decission of the board, it has the bank written all over it, I think the board had in mind to sell certain players but as they have not (yet) been sold the bank has got involved and reminded the board of its commitments. I might be wrong but thats how I read it using my experience from working in finanace.
For the picture going forward we can look at the recent profits warning that was issued to the stock exchange, this may prove to be wrong if the fanancial situation can be improved or if things deteriorate but it can be used as a useful guide.
Posted by: Charles Wayman, Southampton on 3:32pm Wed 20 Aug 08
Rupert, no Rupert. Please don't touch...Mummy! I've been having nightmares about that nasty man again. And I think I've soiled my duvet. Mummy!
Rupert, no Rupert. Please don't touch...Mummy! I've been having nightmares about that nasty man again. And I think I've soiled my duvet. Mummy!
Posted by: Ol, Southampton on 3:40pm Wed 20 Aug 08
I cannot believe that we looking to bring in a new striker straight after letting two go on season long loans. If its because we cant afford their wages then fine, but these were two players that weren't even getting in the starting eleven. so if we cant afford to keep them and there not firt team players then what the hell are we going to replace them with??
I cannot believe that we looking to bring in a new striker straight after letting two go on season long loans. If its because we cant afford their wages then fine, but these were two players that weren't even getting in the starting eleven. so if we cant afford to keep them and there not firt team players then what the hell are we going to replace them with??
Posted by: Cloggy, Southampton on 4:10pm Wed 20 Aug 08
You could try the Job Centre!
You could try the Job Centre!
Posted by: Confucius, Itchen on 4:34pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Ol[/bold] wrote:
I cannot believe that we looking to bring in a new striker straight after letting two go on season long loans. If its because we cant afford their wages then fine, but these were two players that weren't even getting in the starting eleven. so if we cant afford to keep them and there not firt team players then what the hell are we going to replace them with??[/quote] I hear they're offering positions to anyone under 40 who owns a football.
Ol wrote:
I cannot believe that we looking to bring in a new striker straight after letting two go on season long loans. If its because we cant afford their wages then fine, but these were two players that weren't even getting in the starting eleven. so if we cant afford to keep them and there not firt team players then what the hell are we going to replace them with??
I hear they're offering positions to anyone under 40 who owns a football.
Posted by: confucius, Itchen on 4:44pm Wed 20 Aug 08
Things are bad. I handed over £52 at the ticket office today and said 'Two please.' The girl said 'Would you like the goalkeeper and a striker?'
Things are bad. I handed over £52 at the ticket office today and said 'Two please.' The girl said 'Would you like the goalkeeper and a striker?'
Posted by: Graham, Herts on 4:52pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]confucius[/bold] wrote:
Things are bad. I handed over £52 at the ticket office today and said 'Two please.' The girl said 'Would you like the goalkeeper and a striker?'[/quote] I bet that's at least 20 years old but I smiled.
We need more humour
confucius wrote:
Things are bad. I handed over £52 at the ticket office today and said 'Two please.' The girl said 'Would you like the goalkeeper and a striker?'
I bet that's at least 20 years old but I smiled.
We need more humour
Posted by: Peter Strait, Bognor Regis on 5:06pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right. [/quote] The comments reflect the way the people feel, so having posted a negative comment about negative comments, are you going to enlighten us with your opinion happy chappy?
Graham wrote:
14 Comments, 11 of them negative. Sounds about right.
The comments reflect the way the people feel, so having posted a negative comment about negative comments, are you going to enlighten us with your opinion happy chappy?
Posted by: Left Back, Behind The Goal on 5:21pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]confucius[/bold] wrote:
Things are bad. I handed over £52 at the ticket office today and said 'Two please.' The girl said 'Would you like the goalkeeper and a striker?'[/quote] whatevr next - i phoned up the box office asking what time we kick off next tuesday, "what time can you get here" came the reply!!
confucius wrote:
Things are bad. I handed over £52 at the ticket office today and said 'Two please.' The girl said 'Would you like the goalkeeper and a striker?'
whatevr next - i phoned up the box office asking what time we kick off next tuesday, "what time can you get here" came the reply!!
Posted by: Andy on 5:23pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Tracey[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Tracey[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]TRICKY[/bold] wrote: Mr lowe. You haven\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t changed First Saga, then Raziak now Davies. Who\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s next \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'Drew\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\' . You\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re not going to fill any seats or sell any sesson tickets if you keep on sell your best player to other clubs now are you Mr lowe. It in my eye\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s is shot sighted and not good buiseness sence, Yes Southampton Leisure holdings PLC is loosing £5m a year and that they need to ballance the books but selling players is not the way forward. The club has the permission to be bank roled if needed. So why can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t the board just focus on getting into top flight football and then sort out the dept that they owe. At this stage of the sesson and where we are going to end up is not in the premier league but in league 1 and in the hands of the creditors like bournemouth fc. The price of the shares are in falling week in week out. So why Mr lowe do you think you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re the right man to guide the club in the right direction? [/quote] How do you suggest Saints pay the wages of these players then? You agree the club is losing money and and needs to balance the books, do you also know we only have the backing of the bank if we manage to stick with financial targets impossed on us by the bank?[/quote] Unfortunately the only people who know just how bad the financial plight of SFC is, are those few that are privy to the information, such as the bank and the board. Only history, as in the release of the relevant documents detailing how the PLC has been run during this period, will reveal whether or not Mssrs Lowe & Wilde are selling players to save the club from going into administration or for any other purpose. Equally unfortunate is the manner in which Mssrs Wilde & Lowe are perceived by many of the supporters of SFC. With Mr Lowe\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s past record of selling players, despite going on record as saying the players i
