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Council resolute over East Park
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| Cllr Royston Smith |
DESPITE a succession of
trouble-hit developments,
council chiefs claimed that
Southampton is "coping
magnificently" with the
credit crunch as work
began on the city's latest
major development.
It comes justweeks after City Lofts -
the luxury apartment builder tasked
with building a new arts complex in
Northern Above Bar - went into
administration, throwing much of
the scheme into doubt.
Just weeks previously homes giant
Wilson Bowden admitted that it had
shut down work at Admiral's Quay in
Ocean Village with just three of five
planned blocks of flats built.
Both were victims of the economic
downturn.
There are also fears over the future
development of a boarded-up plot of
vacant land at 60-64 St Mary's Road,
near the Charlotte Place roundabout.
Despite initial estimates that the
deal would be wrapped up in a couple
of months, the council is still negotiatingwith
a housebuilder, understood
to be Lovell, more than a year after it
won an auction for the site - beating a
bid from local developers to build an
£80m ice rink complex there.
However, city leaders are now hailing
the start of construction on a
£110m development at East Park
Terrace, which will include homes,
offices and two hotels - including a
landmark four star SAS Radisson set
to become the city's highest building.
The new buildings will replace 1960s
offices and the former home of an
ambulance station.
Councillor Royston Smith, Cabinet
member for economic development,
said: "This magnificent scheme will
provide the citywith fantastic leisure,
residential and business facilities,
and what a fantastic site this development
will be for people coming into
our city.
"While a global credit crunch is
affecting the country, our city is coping
magnificently, with huge developments
such as East Park Terrace, Ikea
and Watermark West Quay coming to
the city."
The East Park Terrace development
will be built in stages.
The first will see 223 apartments
built - 54 will be affordable homes
held by Challenge Housing
Association, 36 for rent and 18 for
shared ownership - as well as an 11-
storey hotel with about 122 rooms.
The next phase of work will see the
22-storey 200-bedroom hotel with conference
facilities built alongside
office space.
The development also incorporates
landscaped public space, and will
form part of a wider regeneration
strategy for the city.
Southampton City Council granted
planning permission for the scheme
by Imperial Property Group last year.
Delph Property Group bought the
bulk of the apartments for rental on
the open market earlier this summer.
9:37am Wednesday 20th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: goard, Southampton Development on 10:13am Wed 20 Aug 08
Well, I am glad there is no let-up of flats and hotels. After all thousands will be coming to Southampton because their own areas are beyond regeneration, but lets hope these future employees are proficient at hotel management, window cleaning, boat repairs and road construction - and so on. Plenty of work is being created down here, and who knows we will become as regenerated as 'up there'. Best of luck to all tho' after all it is not their fault that Governments are born without farsightedness and bad decisions.
goard
Well, I am glad there is no let-up of flats and hotels. After all thousands will be coming to Southampton because their own areas are beyond regeneration, but lets hope these future employees are proficient at hotel management, window cleaning, boat repairs and road construction - and so on. Plenty of work is being created down here, and who knows we will become as regenerated as 'up there'. Best of luck to all tho' after all it is not their fault that Governments are born without farsightedness and bad decisions.
goard
Posted by: hoo flung dung, southampton on 10:20am Wed 20 Aug 08
Yippee!!!
More flats, 223 but 36 for rent! that'll get the waiting list down.
And two more hotels offering 322 rooms. that'll be great, they are only full 'boat show' week.
The council should insist on more rented accomadation. I doubt these will be built anyway.
Yippee!!!
More flats, 223 but 36 for rent! that'll get the waiting list down.
And two more hotels offering 322 rooms. that'll be great, they are only full 'boat show' week.
The council should insist on more rented accomadation. I doubt these will be built anyway.
Posted by: Brett Oric on 12:09pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote]Councillor Royston Smith, Cabinet member for economic development, said: "This magnificent scheme will provide the citywith fantastic leisure, residential and business facilities, and what a fantastic site this development will be for people coming into our city.[/quote]
Where is the leisure aspect of this scheme? Another shining example of the ineptitude of Smith and his cronies of the (using the words very lightly) development team.
Councillor Royston Smith, Cabinet member for economic development, said: "This magnificent scheme will provide the citywith fantastic leisure, residential and business facilities, and what a fantastic site this development will be for people coming into our city.
Where is the leisure aspect of this scheme? Another shining example of the ineptitude of Smith and his cronies of the (using the words very lightly) development team.
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 1:15pm Wed 20 Aug 08
more hotels heck at the last boat show they did not even fill up half the rooms.we getting the rich from place like london living here and commuting to there jobs in other citys or they buying them up has second homes only to be used 2 to 6 weeks in a year.
there are more than enough houses if people did not own more than one home.
more hotels heck at the last boat show they did not even fill up half the rooms.we getting the rich from place like london living here and commuting to there jobs in other citys or they buying them up has second homes only to be used 2 to 6 weeks in a year.
there are more than enough houses if people did not own more than one home.
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 2:13pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[bold]note anti ice rinkers[quote]the council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there[/quote] [/bold]
note anti ice rinkersthe council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there
Posted by: Tony, Southampton on 2:26pm Wed 20 Aug 08
"what a fantastic site this development will be for people coming into our city."
While residents avoid the city like the plague as people are fed up with dull and dreary flatted schemes replicated up and down other half baked towns. I still do not understand why IKEA a big blue shed is so great for the city.
The only thing Ikea is good for is furnishing these half baked flats with cheap boring furnishings. Maybe if the council would have put residents first over cold cash we may have had an Ice rink as proposed by local developer.
I also wonder if people really visit Southampton for shops such as Top Shop, H and M and all the other shops you see in every other boring town.
"what a fantastic site this development will be for people coming into our city."
While residents avoid the city like the plague as people are fed up with dull and dreary flatted schemes replicated up and down other half baked towns. I still do not understand why IKEA a big blue shed is so great for the city.
The only thing Ikea is good for is furnishing these half baked flats with cheap boring furnishings. Maybe if the council would have put residents first over cold cash we may have had an Ice rink as proposed by local developer.
I also wonder if people really visit Southampton for shops such as Top Shop, H and M and all the other shops you see in every other boring town.
Posted by: Fed up, Southampton on 2:38pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[bold]note anti ice rinkers[quote]the council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there[/quote] [/bold] [/quote] Yep and they will still be saying that in 10 years time or it will be full of flats due to " Economic Pressure". So you ice skate lovers dont get your hopes up. You couldnt even be bothered to go to the Christmas one and support it. The closest youll get is roller boots
southy wrote:
note anti ice rinkersthe council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there
Yep and they will still be saying that in 10 years time or it will be full of flats due to " Economic Pressure". So you ice skate lovers dont get your hopes up. You couldnt even be bothered to go to the Christmas one and support it. The closest youll get is roller boots
Posted by: THE BRICK, @THE ICE RINK on 3:08pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Fed up[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[bold]note anti ice rinkers[quote]the council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there[/quote] [/bold] [/quote] Yep and they will still be saying that in 10 years time or it will be full of flats due to " Economic Pressure". So you ice skate lovers dont get your hopes up. You couldnt even be bothered to go to the Christmas one and support it. The closest youll get is roller boots[/quote] Thats funny, as the Southampton Vikings Ice Hockey Club held their reunion on the Xmas Ice rink in 2006 and plenty of the Southampton Ice Dance Club used the rink and they put on an ice show to open it. Get your facts correct and then you would have a valid comment to make.
Fed up wrote:
southy wrote:
note anti ice rinkersthe council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there
Yep and they will still be saying that in 10 years time or it will be full of flats due to " Economic Pressure". So you ice skate lovers dont get your hopes up. You couldnt even be bothered to go to the Christmas one and support it. The closest youll get is roller boots
Thats funny, as the Southampton Vikings Ice Hockey Club held their reunion on the Xmas Ice rink in 2006 and plenty of the Southampton Ice Dance Club used the rink and they put on an ice show to open it. Get your facts correct and then you would have a valid comment to make.
Posted by: Fed up, Southampton on 3:15pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]THE BRICK[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fed up[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [bold]note anti ice rinkers[quote]the council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there[/quote] [/bold] [/quote] Yep and they will still be saying that in 10 years time or it will be full of flats due to " Economic Pressure". So you ice skate lovers dont get your hopes up. You couldnt even be bothered to go to the Christmas one and support it. The closest youll get is roller boots[/quote] Thats funny, as the Southampton Vikings Ice Hockey Club held their reunion on the Xmas Ice rink in 2006 and plenty of the Southampton Ice Dance Club used the rink and they put on an ice show to open it. Get your facts correct and then you would have a valid comment to make. [/quote] Ok well who used the rest of the 4 weeks it was there. The Vikings reunion party must have lasted a long time and how long did the Ice Dance Club opening show last ? Sorry [bold]THE BRICK[/bold] but if an ice rink made money we would have had one years ago, but they dont !! Come to terms with it unless commercialy viable then it wont happen. Sorry
THE BRICK wrote:
Fed up wrote: southy wrote: note anti ice rinkersthe council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there
Yep and they will still be saying that in 10 years time or it will be full of flats due to " Economic Pressure". So you ice skate lovers dont get your hopes up. You couldnt even be bothered to go to the Christmas one and support it. The closest youll get is roller boots
Thats funny, as the Southampton Vikings Ice Hockey Club held their reunion on the Xmas Ice rink in 2006 and plenty of the Southampton Ice Dance Club used the rink and they put on an ice show to open it. Get your facts correct and then you would have a valid comment to make.
Ok well who used the rest of the 4 weeks it was there. The Vikings reunion party must have lasted a long time and how long did the Ice Dance Club opening show last ? Sorry
THE BRICK but if an ice rink made money we would have had one years ago, but they dont !! Come to terms with it unless commercialy viable then it wont happen. Sorry
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 3:19pm Wed 20 Aug 08
what i was hinting at that the developers are there to build an ice rink and want to do it but are getting out bid by flat builders,its the same old problem money talks
what i was hinting at that the developers are there to build an ice rink and want to do it but are getting out bid by flat builders,its the same old problem money talks
Posted by: I and I on 3:45pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
more hotels heck at the last boat show they did not even fill up half the rooms.we getting the rich from place like london living here and commuting to there jobs in other citys or they buying them up has second homes only to be used 2 to 6 weeks in a year. there are more than enough houses if people did not own more than one home.[/quote] I doubt you are getting too many in Redbridge. Winchester maybe.
Are you saying people should only be allowed to own one home?
southy wrote:
more hotels heck at the last boat show they did not even fill up half the rooms.we getting the rich from place like london living here and commuting to there jobs in other citys or they buying them up has second homes only to be used 2 to 6 weeks in a year. there are more than enough houses if people did not own more than one home.
I doubt you are getting too many in Redbridge. Winchester maybe.
Are you saying people should only be allowed to own one home?
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 3:53pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]I and I[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
more hotels heck at the last boat show they did not even fill up half the rooms.we getting the rich from place like london living here and commuting to there jobs in other citys or they buying them up has second homes only to be used 2 to 6 weeks in a year. there are more than enough houses if people did not own more than one home.[/quote] I doubt you are getting too many in Redbridge. Winchester maybe.
Are you saying people should only be allowed to own one home?[/quote] yes it would be a good idea only to have one home,there are hotel,motels,bb,shor
t term private let.why do any one need more than one home,maybe if people only had one home there might be enough homes all ready.there are places at ocean village that dont get used apart from a few weeks in a year.
I and I wrote:
southy wrote:
more hotels heck at the last boat show they did not even fill up half the rooms.we getting the rich from place like london living here and commuting to there jobs in other citys or they buying them up has second homes only to be used 2 to 6 weeks in a year. there are more than enough houses if people did not own more than one home.
I doubt you are getting too many in Redbridge. Winchester maybe.
Are you saying people should only be allowed to own one home?
yes it would be a good idea only to have one home,there are hotel,motels,bb,shor
t term private let.why do any one need more than one home,maybe if people only had one home there might be enough homes all ready.there are places at ocean village that dont get used apart from a few weeks in a year.
Posted by: gorf, soton on 4:00pm Wed 20 Aug 08
i hope mr smith has a licence to be driving that thing......if not we have photograpic evidence here to pass to the plod!!
i hope mr smith has a licence to be driving that thing......if not we have photograpic evidence here to pass to the plod!!
Posted by: live local, southampton on 7:10pm Wed 20 Aug 08
[quote][bold]THE BRICK[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fed up[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [bold]note anti ice rinkers[quote]the council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there[/quote] [/bold] [/quote] Yep and they will still be saying that in 10 years time or it will be full of flats due to \" Economic Pressure\". So you ice skate lovers dont get your hopes up. You couldnt even be bothered to go to the Christmas one and support it. The closest youll get is roller boots[/quote] Thats funny, as the Southampton Vikings Ice Hockey Club held their reunion on the Xmas Ice rink in 2006 and plenty of the Southampton Ice Dance Club used the rink and they put on an ice show to open it. Get your facts correct and then you would have a valid comment to make. [/quote] That is funny as this was the report on the ice rink
[italic][bold]COUNCIL chiefs have confirmed they are working on plans to bring back a Christmas ice rink to Southampton after downgrading this year's losses by £6,000 to £60,000.
It was the first time they were able to skate in the city since the city's Banister Park ice rink closed in 1988.
Cllr Vinson said the council would start looking to sign up sponsors now.
The temporary rink in the Guildhall Square formed the centrepiece of Southampton City Council's Christmas and new year celebrations.
It was sponsored by WestQuay shopping centre, Breeze Volkswagen, Southampton Solent University, Carswell Gould and West Quay Retail Park.
Source daily echo archive march 9th 2007[/bold][/italic]
Perhaps the keen skaters need to repay the city coffers for this loss before getting any ideas about a new rink.
THE BRICK wrote:
Fed up wrote: southy wrote: note anti ice rinkersthe council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there
Yep and they will still be saying that in 10 years time or it will be full of flats due to \" Economic Pressure\". So you ice skate lovers dont get your hopes up. You couldnt even be bothered to go to the Christmas one and support it. The closest youll get is roller boots
Thats funny, as the Southampton Vikings Ice Hockey Club held their reunion on the Xmas Ice rink in 2006 and plenty of the Southampton Ice Dance Club used the rink and they put on an ice show to open it. Get your facts correct and then you would have a valid comment to make.
That is funny as this was the report on the ice rink
COUNCIL chiefs have confirmed they are working on plans to bring back a Christmas ice rink to Southampton after downgrading this year's losses by £6,000 to £60,000.
It was the first time they were able to skate in the city since the city's Banister Park ice rink closed in 1988.
Cllr Vinson said the council would start looking to sign up sponsors now.
The temporary rink in the Guildhall Square formed the centrepiece of Southampton City Council's Christmas and new year celebrations.
It was sponsored by WestQuay shopping centre, Breeze Volkswagen, Southampton Solent University, Carswell Gould and West Quay Retail Park.
Source daily echo archive march 9th 2007
Perhaps the keen skaters need to repay the city coffers for this loss before getting any ideas about a new rink.
Posted by: ron westcott, bassett on 12:54pm Thu 21 Aug 08
When will the Ice Rink fan club join the real world of economics. It is not viable nor ever will be.
It comes under the "tag" cream when we can't afford the bread and butter let alone the jam.
Why do you think that Ice Rinks are not flourishing throughout the country.
We have enough White Elephants, empty shops and flats, in the City already.
Get real don't live with your heads in the clouds it is the pound in the pocket that rules.
When will the Ice Rink fan club join the real world of economics. It is not viable nor ever will be.
It comes under the "tag" cream when we can't afford the bread and butter let alone the jam.
Why do you think that Ice Rinks are not flourishing throughout the country.
We have enough White Elephants, empty shops and flats, in the City already.
Get real don't live with your heads in the clouds it is the pound in the pocket that rules.
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 2:23pm Thu 21 Aug 08
[quote][bold]ron westcott[/bold] wrote:
When will the Ice Rink fan club join the real world of economics. It is not viable nor ever will be.
It comes under the \"tag\" cream when we can\'t afford the bread and butter let alone the jam.
Why do you think that Ice Rinks are not flourishing throughout the country.
We have enough White Elephants, empty shops and flats, in the City already.
Get real don\'t live with your heads in the clouds it is the pound in the pocket that rules.[/quote] you need to get real,the main problem is greed,short term over long term.all ice rinks in this country are flourishing,even southampton ice rink was flourishing when it closed and was making big profits.ice rinks have never made loses even today.
ron westcott wrote:
When will the Ice Rink fan club join the real world of economics. It is not viable nor ever will be.
It comes under the \"tag\" cream when we can\'t afford the bread and butter let alone the jam.
Why do you think that Ice Rinks are not flourishing throughout the country.
We have enough White Elephants, empty shops and flats, in the City already.
Get real don\'t live with your heads in the clouds it is the pound in the pocket that rules.
you need to get real,the main problem is greed,short term over long term.all ice rinks in this country are flourishing,even southampton ice rink was flourishing when it closed and was making big profits.ice rinks have never made loses even today.
Posted by: THE BRICK, @THE ICE RINK on 2:32pm Thu 21 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ron westcott[/bold] wrote:
When will the Ice Rink fan club join the real world of economics. It is not viable nor ever will be.
It comes under the \"tag\" cream when we can\'t afford the bread and butter let alone the jam.
Why do you think that Ice Rinks are not flourishing throughout the country.
We have enough White Elephants, empty shops and flats, in the City already.
Get real don\'t live with your heads in the clouds it is the pound in the pocket that rules.[/quote] you need to get real,the main problem is greed,short term over long term.all ice rinks in this country are flourishing,even southampton ice rink was flourishing when it closed and was making big profits.ice rinks have never made loses even today.[/quote] Southy is right on the money, Ron Wescott should do the research instead of blathering on without the mearest idea of what the real state of ice rink profits are. USS do know but of course, the 'neggies' (theres that girlie word again) will never accept it as they don't want to believe it.
[bold]
GIVE USS WHAT WE WANT AND THEN WE'LL GO AWAY[/bold]
southy wrote:
ron westcott wrote:
When will the Ice Rink fan club join the real world of economics. It is not viable nor ever will be.
It comes under the \"tag\" cream when we can\'t afford the bread and butter let alone the jam.
Why do you think that Ice Rinks are not flourishing throughout the country.
We have enough White Elephants, empty shops and flats, in the City already.
Get real don\'t live with your heads in the clouds it is the pound in the pocket that rules.
you need to get real,the main problem is greed,short term over long term.all ice rinks in this country are flourishing,even southampton ice rink was flourishing when it closed and was making big profits.ice rinks have never made loses even today.
Southy is right on the money, Ron Wescott should do the research instead of blathering on without the mearest idea of what the real state of ice rink profits are. USS do know but of course, the 'neggies' (theres that girlie word again) will never accept it as they don't want to believe it.
GIVE USS WHAT WE WANT AND THEN WE'LL GO AWAY Posted by: southy, redbridge on 2:41pm Thu 21 Aug 08
and i still say west southampton on west side test playing fields perfect location
and i still say west southampton on west side test playing fields perfect location
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