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Temporary rink wins planning permission
THE final hurdle has been cleared for the return of a temporary Christmas ice rink to Southampton.
Council planners yesterday gave the go ahead to transform the forecourt of the Civic Centre into a winter wonderland.
Cousins Entertainment (CE), set up by 1980 Olympic gold medallist Robin Cousins, won permission to build the temporary ice rink, announced earlier this year.
CE operations director Alan Abretti, a former British champion, said 50,000 people were expected to take to the ice.
The 20m by 30m rink, which will be run commercially by CE, will have enough room for 200 skaters at any one time.
It will be open from November 21 until January 11, excluding Christmas Day.
Advance tickets, up to £8.50 for adults, £6.50 for children, students, and concessions, and £28 for families for an hour session, go on sale from Monday.
The Civic Centre car park will close and alternative parking options will be made for visitors.
A previous temporary Christmas rink in 2006 at the Guildhall, pictured above, attracted more than 16,000 skaters but made a £60,000 loss for the council because of poor planning and sponsorship.
10:34am Friday 29th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: southy, redbridge on 11:19am Fri 29 Aug 08
numbers will be counted that use it
numbers will be counted that use it
Posted by: Gilmore, Shirley, Southampton on 11:36am Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
numbers will be counted that use it[/quote] Oh, that's guaranteed bro! And if the Council get any inkling that CE will lose money, they'll scrap any further attempt to generate commercial interest in building a permanent rink due to perceived lack of interest. Our spineless Tory Council in action.
Don't fear though. The Brick and I are going to rack up 50000 hours of skating time to make sure that never happens.
southy wrote:
numbers will be counted that use it
Oh, that's guaranteed bro! And if the Council get any inkling that CE will lose money, they'll scrap any further attempt to generate commercial interest in building a permanent rink due to perceived lack of interest. Our spineless Tory Council in action.
Don't fear though. The Brick and I are going to rack up 50000 hours of skating time to make sure that never happens.
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 11:42am Fri 29 Aug 08
if the figures are right for the last one 16,000 skaters that would more than enough to do it.only problem is if its built in the center of southampton alot of people will avoid it.people like my self,i dont even do my shopping in the center southampton let alone my entertainment and only go into the center only when there is no choice else where
if the figures are right for the last one 16,000 skaters that would more than enough to do it.only problem is if its built in the center of southampton alot of people will avoid it.people like my self,i dont even do my shopping in the center southampton let alone my entertainment and only go into the center only when there is no choice else where
Posted by: Dr Alimantado on 11:52am Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
if the figures are right for the last one 16,000 skaters that would more than enough to do it.only problem is if its built in the center of southampton alot of people will avoid it.people like my self,i dont even do my shopping in the center southampton let alone my entertainment and only go into the center only when there is no choice else where[/quote] well why don't you make an exception and get in there to show your support.
There is no bogeyman in town you know, you will be quite safe....well, not if you listen to statistics but hey ho.
Get in there Southy, you obviously have a keen interest in this skating malarky
southy wrote:
if the figures are right for the last one 16,000 skaters that would more than enough to do it.only problem is if its built in the center of southampton alot of people will avoid it.people like my self,i dont even do my shopping in the center southampton let alone my entertainment and only go into the center only when there is no choice else where
well why don't you make an exception and get in there to show your support.
There is no bogeyman in town you know, you will be quite safe....well, not if you listen to statistics but hey ho.
Get in there Southy, you obviously have a keen interest in this skating malarky
Posted by: George on 12:06pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
numbers will be counted that use it[/quote] Of course they will! And the figures will still be virtually meaningless, because they have no bearing on how many of those people would use an ice rink at any other time of the year. I suggest you, or BRICK, or someone, gets down there and runs an exit poll on how many people would like to make use of a permanent rink, rather than just sit back and quote the figure as God-given evidence that everyone that skated at Christmas is a complete ice nut who wouldn't be able to stay away
southy wrote:
numbers will be counted that use it
Of course they will! And the figures will still be virtually meaningless, because they have no bearing on how many of those people would use an ice rink at any other time of the year. I suggest you, or BRICK, or someone, gets down there and runs an exit poll on how many people would like to make use of a permanent rink, rather than just sit back and quote the figure as God-given evidence that everyone that skated at Christmas is a complete ice nut who wouldn't be able to stay away
Posted by: Gilmore, Shirley, Southampton on 12:12pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Woo-hoo! Daily Echo Forum Readers meet-up on the ice rink!
Look! There's Denzil scratching his bum! And Kebab Man giving out frozen extra mayo ice cream on stick, eh? Southy and Paramjit are wearing flowing red cloaks as symbols of the forthcoming Socialist revolution, and The Brick is laughing at George saying "I told you so!!" and "Give us what we want and we'll go away!! Ahahahah!!"
December 12th, be there.
Woo-hoo! Daily Echo Forum Readers meet-up on the ice rink!
Look! There's Denzil scratching his bum! And Kebab Man giving out frozen extra mayo ice cream on stick, eh? Southy and Paramjit are wearing flowing red cloaks as symbols of the forthcoming Socialist revolution, and The Brick is laughing at George saying "I told you so!!" and "Give us what we want and we'll go away!! Ahahahah!!"
December 12th, be there.
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 12:27pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Dr Alimantado[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
if the figures are right for the last one 16,000 skaters that would more than enough to do it.only problem is if its built in the center of southampton alot of people will avoid it.people like my self,i dont even do my shopping in the center southampton let alone my entertainment and only go into the center only when there is no choice else where[/quote] well why don\'t you make an exception and get in there to show your support.
There is no bogeyman in town you know, you will be quite safe....well, not if you listen to statistics but hey ho.
Get in there Southy, you obviously have a keen interest in this skating malarky[/quote] i use to like going into town once that was before the councils destoryed it,by having only what they wanted and not what the people wanted
Dr Alimantado wrote:
southy wrote:
if the figures are right for the last one 16,000 skaters that would more than enough to do it.only problem is if its built in the center of southampton alot of people will avoid it.people like my self,i dont even do my shopping in the center southampton let alone my entertainment and only go into the center only when there is no choice else where
well why don\'t you make an exception and get in there to show your support.
There is no bogeyman in town you know, you will be quite safe....well, not if you listen to statistics but hey ho.
Get in there Southy, you obviously have a keen interest in this skating malarky
i use to like going into town once that was before the councils destoryed it,by having only what they wanted and not what the people wanted
Posted by: George on 12:36pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote]i use to like going into town once that was before the councils destoryed it,by having only what they wanted and not what the people wanted[/quote]
But in this instance, it's got what [bold]you[/bold] wanted. Get down there and use it! I will be
i use to like going into town once that was before the councils destoryed it,by having only what they wanted and not what the people wanted
But in this instance, it's got what
you wanted. Get down there and use it! I will be
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 12:52pm Fri 29 Aug 08
if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.
if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.
Posted by: Dr Alimantado on 1:03pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.[/quote] sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
southy wrote:
if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.
sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 1:39pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Dr Alimantado[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.[/quote] sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often[/quote] library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth
Dr Alimantado wrote:
southy wrote:
if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.
sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth
Posted by: Ian Hoolihan on 1:48pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Dr Alimantado[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.[/quote] sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often[/quote] library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth[/quote] Southy, don't take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man.
You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library.
What's that all about?
Of course, you don't have to say or justify, but I would love to hear
southy wrote:
Dr Alimantado wrote: southy wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.
sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth
Southy, don't take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man.
You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library.
What's that all about?
Of course, you don't have to say or justify, but I would love to hear
Posted by: Fed up, Home on 1:51pm Fri 29 Aug 08
I see that the one in 2006 LOST £60,000. Well iam sick to death of these Councils spending my money on ice rinks temporary or otherwise. Its simple if you want to skate, great, go to Basingstoke or Gosport but dont keep expecting the tax payers of Southampton to keep puting their hands in their pockets to bank roll mnority sports like this. I am Fed up with it. To fund the £60,000 loss two years ago that probably deprived some childrens or Seniors home a part of their care. [bold]YOU WANT IT, YOU PAY FOR IT[/bold]
I see that the one in 2006 LOST £60,000. Well iam sick to death of these Councils spending my money on ice rinks temporary or otherwise. Its simple if you want to skate, great, go to Basingstoke or Gosport but dont keep expecting the tax payers of Southampton to keep puting their hands in their pockets to bank roll mnority sports like this. I am Fed up with it. To fund the £60,000 loss two years ago that probably deprived some childrens or Seniors home a part of their care.
YOU WANT IT, YOU PAY FOR IT Posted by: THE BRICK, @THE ICE RINK on 1:54pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Yikes, thats just outside my office window, I'll have to put my skates on in the office and get out there on the twelfth and spray stop George!!! LOL
Yikes, thats just outside my office window, I'll have to put my skates on in the office and get out there on the twelfth and spray stop George!!! LOL
Posted by: Dragon, Den on 2:10pm Fri 29 Aug 08
£16000 loss in 2006
Im out
£16000 loss in 2006
Im out
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 2:26pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Ian Hoolihan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Dr Alimantado[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.[/quote] sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often[/quote] library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth[/quote] Southy, don\\\'t take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man.
You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library.
What\\\'s that all about?
Of course, you don\\\'t have to say or justify, but I would love to hear[/quote] only keep with in topics i know about Ian Hoolihan,i just dont like how the city center and the main part of town is like now days they have destoryed it, it no longer than that friendly looking place that it had once.i much prefere to go to totton or salisbury to do my shopping or get any thing else i need,one of the only good things in the city it has a half reasonable library
Ian Hoolihan wrote:
southy wrote:
Dr Alimantado wrote: southy wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.
sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth
Southy, don't take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man.
You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library.
What's that all about?
Of course, you don't have to say or justify, but I would love to hear
only keep with in topics i know about Ian Hoolihan,i just dont like how the city center and the main part of town is like now days they have destoryed it, it no longer than that friendly looking place that it had once.i much prefere to go to totton or salisbury to do my shopping or get any thing else i need,one of the only good things in the city it has a half reasonable library
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 2:28pm Fri 29 Aug 08
oh forgot to say that i do travel alot i seen alot of things over the years
oh forgot to say that i do travel alot i seen alot of things over the years
Posted by: Ian Hoolihan on 2:33pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ian Hoolihan[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Dr Alimantado[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.[/quote] sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often[/quote] library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth[/quote] Southy, don\\\'t take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man. You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library. What\\\'s that all about? Of course, you don\\\'t have to say or justify, but I would love to hear[/quote] only keep with in topics i know about Ian Hoolihan,i just dont like how the city center and the main part of town is like now days they have destoryed it, it no longer than that friendly looking place that it had once.i much prefere to go to totton or salisbury to do my shopping or get any thing else i need,one of the only good things in the city it has a half reasonable library [/quote] ok, I was beginning to think you were a recluse. Knowledge is power and all that but it doesn't mean jack if you sit on your @rse all day talking and not doing.
I'm sensing that you like libraries...he he
southy wrote:
Ian Hoolihan wrote: southy wrote: Dr Alimantado wrote: southy wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.
sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth
Southy, don't take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man. You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library. What's that all about? Of course, you don't have to say or justify, but I would love to hear
only keep with in topics i know about Ian Hoolihan,i just dont like how the city center and the main part of town is like now days they have destoryed it, it no longer than that friendly looking place that it had once.i much prefere to go to totton or salisbury to do my shopping or get any thing else i need,one of the only good things in the city it has a half reasonable library
ok, I was beginning to think you were a recluse. Knowledge is power and all that but it doesn't mean jack if you sit on your @rse all day talking and not doing.
I'm sensing that you like libraries...he he
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 2:49pm Fri 29 Aug 08
librarys are the place to get true facts well a lot less errors in info,unlike the internet info has way to many errors and can never be relied on for facts.
when i become a recluse i think i head to st helena island not been there since the mid 70's
librarys are the place to get true facts well a lot less errors in info,unlike the internet info has way to many errors and can never be relied on for facts.
when i become a recluse i think i head to st helena island not been there since the mid 70's
Posted by: Ken Tucky, the crossroads on 3:29pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[bold]NOBODY[/bold] will use it. waster of my council tax. fools
NOBODY will use it. waster of my council tax. fools
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 3:34pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Ken Tucky[/bold] wrote:
[bold]NOBODY[/bold] will use it. waster of my council tax. fools[/quote] no council tax involed
Ken Tucky wrote:
NOBODY will use it. waster of my council tax. fools
no council tax involed
Posted by: THE BRICK, @THE ICE RINK on 4:43pm Fri 29 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Fed up[/bold] wrote:
I see that the one in 2006 LOST £60,000. Well iam sick to death of these Councils spending my money on ice rinks temporary or otherwise. Its simple if you want to skate, great, go to Basingstoke or Gosport but dont keep expecting the tax payers of Southampton to keep puting their hands in their pockets to bank roll mnority sports like this. I am Fed up with it. To fund the £60,000 loss two years ago that probably deprived some childrens or Seniors home a part of their care. [bold]YOU WANT IT, YOU PAY FOR IT[/bold] [/quote] Going to Basingstoke tonight to celebrate the Xmas ice rink that I will be using as much as I can. taxpayers money is not being used whatsoever, that used for other things like the development of pubs, bars and drinking clubs in the city centre.
Fed up wrote:
I see that the one in 2006 LOST £60,000. Well iam sick to death of these Councils spending my money on ice rinks temporary or otherwise. Its simple if you want to skate, great, go to Basingstoke or Gosport but dont keep expecting the tax payers of Southampton to keep puting their hands in their pockets to bank roll mnority sports like this. I am Fed up with it. To fund the £60,000 loss two years ago that probably deprived some childrens or Seniors home a part of their care. YOU WANT IT, YOU PAY FOR IT
Going to Basingstoke tonight to celebrate the Xmas ice rink that I will be using as much as I can. taxpayers money is not being used whatsoever, that used for other things like the development of pubs, bars and drinking clubs in the city centre.
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 5:45pm Fri 29 Aug 08
enjoy your self brick i am off to tower park myself going to have a nice swimming in that nice warm water pool they got down there in the fittness center
enjoy your self brick i am off to tower park myself going to have a nice swimming in that nice warm water pool they got down there in the fittness center
Posted by: Quite frankly...., Orbiting Planet Idiot on 11:00pm Fri 29 Aug 08
£28 for a family for an hour? The Quite Franklys will not be participating in this minority nonsense.
£28 for a family for an hour? The Quite Franklys will not be participating in this minority nonsense.
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 11:39pm Fri 29 Aug 08
i would say £28 for a family is a bit costly unless you got 6 people in the family,if you want the people there to use it keep it very cheap the cheaper it is the more that will use it
i would say £28 for a family is a bit costly unless you got 6 people in the family,if you want the people there to use it keep it very cheap the cheaper it is the more that will use it
Posted by: Quite frankly...., Orbiting Planet Idiot on 11:46pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Good call southy, but that does not wash in a capitalist economy, to be fair.
Good call southy, but that does not wash in a capitalist economy, to be fair.
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 12:43am Sat 30 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Quite frankly....[/bold] wrote:
Good call southy, but that does not wash in a capitalist economy, to be fair.[/quote] your right there,greed blinds them.charge more get less people,charge less and get more people
Quite frankly.... wrote:
Good call southy, but that does not wash in a capitalist economy, to be fair.
your right there,greed blinds them.charge more get less people,charge less and get more people
Posted by: southy, westy, easty, northy, any way the wind blows up the kyber pass while lancing a boil on the left buttock on 2:43am Sat 30 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Ian Hoolihan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Dr Alimantado[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.[/quote] sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often[/quote] library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth[/quote] Southy, don't take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man.
You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library.
What's that all about?
Of course, you don't have to say or justify, but I would love to hear[/quote] [bold]Weird[/bold] is my preferred description. I am happy to throw insults around . . . . . this guy is an intelectual cripple and likely a physical one too, hence he does not get out a lot. An Armchair Critic. An Armchair Socialist. An Armchair Pontificator. We should set up a campaign to get him one of those snazzy recliners with a massage built-in and electric switch to move the footrest up and down, so he can concentrate, without distraction or unecessary effort, on the critical stuff, like BORING everybody fart-less.
Ian Hoolihan wrote:
southy wrote:
Dr Alimantado wrote: southy wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.
sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth
Southy, don't take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man.
You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library.
What's that all about?
Of course, you don't have to say or justify, but I would love to hear
Weird is my preferred description. I am happy to throw insults around . . . . . this guy is an intelectual cripple and likely a physical one too, hence he does not get out a lot. An Armchair Critic. An Armchair Socialist. An Armchair Pontificator. We should set up a campaign to get him one of those snazzy recliners with a massage built-in and electric switch to move the footrest up and down, so he can concentrate, without distraction or unecessary effort, on the critical stuff, like BORING everybody fart-less.
Posted by: Cheapskate on 3:21am Sat 30 Aug 08
[quote][bold]THE BRICK[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fed up[/bold] wrote:
I see that the one in 2006 LOST £60,000. Well iam sick to death of these Councils spending my money on ice rinks temporary or otherwise. Its simple if you want to skate, great, go to Basingstoke or Gosport but dont keep expecting the tax payers of Southampton to keep puting their hands in their pockets to bank roll mnority sports like this. I am Fed up with it. To fund the £60,000 loss two years ago that probably deprived some childrens or Seniors home a part of their care. [bold]YOU WANT IT, YOU PAY FOR IT[/bold] [/quote] Going to Basingstoke tonight to celebrate the Xmas ice rink that I will be using as much as I can. taxpayers money is not being used whatsoever, that used for other things like the development of pubs, bars and drinking clubs in the city centre.[/quote] Ah! Basingstoke!
The Entertainment Capital of the South.
A Fun-Filled Friday night in Bowdy, Rowdy Basingstoke.
Yes, Basingstoke! . . . best experienced on an icy winters day with a trusty, rusty pair of ice skates and a warm cup of cocoa and curled-up, tired-looking ham and cheese sandwich afterwards. Mmmm . . . wunerful times in Basingstoke.
Beautiful Basingstoke . Bashful, Bountiful, Bollockingly Luverly Basingstoke, twinned with Bangcock and Bratislava and Bangalore. Who could ask for more?
Me, that's who. I want a Sitting Fence. And I want it [bold]NOW![/bold]
THE BRICK wrote:
Fed up wrote:
I see that the one in 2006 LOST £60,000. Well iam sick to death of these Councils spending my money on ice rinks temporary or otherwise. Its simple if you want to skate, great, go to Basingstoke or Gosport but dont keep expecting the tax payers of Southampton to keep puting their hands in their pockets to bank roll mnority sports like this. I am Fed up with it. To fund the £60,000 loss two years ago that probably deprived some childrens or Seniors home a part of their care. YOU WANT IT, YOU PAY FOR IT
Going to Basingstoke tonight to celebrate the Xmas ice rink that I will be using as much as I can. taxpayers money is not being used whatsoever, that used for other things like the development of pubs, bars and drinking clubs in the city centre.
Ah! Basingstoke!
The Entertainment Capital of the South.
A Fun-Filled Friday night in Bowdy, Rowdy Basingstoke.
Yes, Basingstoke! . . . best experienced on an icy winters day with a trusty, rusty pair of ice skates and a warm cup of cocoa and curled-up, tired-looking ham and cheese sandwich afterwards. Mmmm . . . wunerful times in Basingstoke.
Beautiful Basingstoke . Bashful, Bountiful, Bollockingly Luverly Basingstoke, twinned with Bangcock and Bratislava and Bangalore. Who could ask for more?
Me, that's who. I want a Sitting Fence. And I want it
NOW! Posted by: southy, redbridge on 1:48pm Sat 30 Aug 08
dont like it do you when your proven wrong do you
dont like it do you when your proven wrong do you
Posted by: George on 3:33pm Sat 30 Aug 08
[quote][bold]THE BRICK[/bold] wrote:
Yikes, thats just outside my office window, I'll have to put my skates on in the office and get out there on the twelfth and spray stop George!!! LOL[/quote] You'll have to catch me first :-) get yer skates on!
THE BRICK wrote:
Yikes, thats just outside my office window, I'll have to put my skates on in the office and get out there on the twelfth and spray stop George!!! LOL
You'll have to catch me first :-) get yer skates on!
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 3:42pm Sat 30 Aug 08
i wonder if the no people have work out where brick works
i wonder if the no people have work out where brick works
Posted by: KL, Southampton on 1:51am Sun 31 Aug 08
I'm curious about Southy too. You would think that in all his many hours of reading, researching, and learning at the library, and at home on the internet, that he might have picked up at least the basics of spelling, punctuation and grammar.
I'm curious about Southy too. You would think that in all his many hours of reading, researching, and learning at the library, and at home on the internet, that he might have picked up at least the basics of spelling, punctuation and grammar.
Posted by: Curious Too on 4:18am Sun 31 Aug 08
[quote][bold]KL[/bold] wrote:
I'm curious about Southy too. You would think that in all his many hours of reading, researching, and learning at the library, and at home on the internet, that he might have picked up at least the basics of spelling, punctuation and grammar. [/quote] Yeah.
He's a sort of bumbling, buffoon-like human version of Old Moore’s Almanack, except his facts often are wrong or made up on the spot to fit the ebb and flow of his argument.
If you regularly view his postings there is a discernible pattern: the grammar and spelling of an illiterate Welsh sheep farmer with large tufts of hairs growing out his ears who skipped formal education, is replaced by highly articulate, pithy and attractive prose.
Maybe he inadvertently slips between the two extremes?
Maybe he is a University Professor trying hard to disguise this?
Maybe he has several poster IDs and gets their "personas" mixed at times?
This possibility is strengthened by his apparent paranoia that the poster “northy” frequently adopts parallel poster IDs, just to annoy and belittle him?
Have you noticed that too?
I have no clue if there is one or several “northy’s” and see no evidence either way. But he certainly has a bee in his bonnet about “northy” or the “northys”
My gripe with him is his smug self satisfaction and self proclaimed ( and unjustified ) online role of: Lord Of All Knowledge Of All Things About Southampton That Ever Happened In History And Will Ever Happen In The Future.
This superiority is offensive and condescending to all other contributors.
He also has a need , much of the time, to be right, and always has to have the last word. What is all that about? Freud would have the answers.
KL wrote:
I'm curious about Southy too. You would think that in all his many hours of reading, researching, and learning at the library, and at home on the internet, that he might have picked up at least the basics of spelling, punctuation and grammar.
Yeah.
He's a sort of bumbling, buffoon-like human version of Old Moore’s Almanack, except his facts often are wrong or made up on the spot to fit the ebb and flow of his argument.
If you regularly view his postings there is a discernible pattern: the grammar and spelling of an illiterate Welsh sheep farmer with large tufts of hairs growing out his ears who skipped formal education, is replaced by highly articulate, pithy and attractive prose.
Maybe he inadvertently slips between the two extremes?
Maybe he is a University Professor trying hard to disguise this?
Maybe he has several poster IDs and gets their "personas" mixed at times?
This possibility is strengthened by his apparent paranoia that the poster “northy” frequently adopts parallel poster IDs, just to annoy and belittle him?
Have you noticed that too?
I have no clue if there is one or several “northy’s” and see no evidence either way. But he certainly has a bee in his bonnet about “northy” or the “northys”
My gripe with him is his smug self satisfaction and self proclaimed ( and unjustified ) online role of: Lord Of All Knowledge Of All Things About Southampton That Ever Happened In History And Will Ever Happen In The Future.
This superiority is offensive and condescending to all other contributors.
He also has a need , much of the time, to be right, and always has to have the last word. What is all that about? Freud would have the answers.
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 11:59am Sun 31 Aug 08
[quote][bold]KL[/bold] wrote:
I'm curious about Southy too. You would think that in all his many hours of reading, researching, and learning at the library, and at home on the internet, that he might have picked up at least the basics of spelling, punctuation and grammar. [/quote] semi retired so i do some thing to keep me busy,i use to work out into the field most of the time,and traveled the world a lot, it was rare to see me sit behide an office desk,i employed one person to do that for me.
KL wrote:
I'm curious about Southy too. You would think that in all his many hours of reading, researching, and learning at the library, and at home on the internet, that he might have picked up at least the basics of spelling, punctuation and grammar.
semi retired so i do some thing to keep me busy,i use to work out into the field most of the time,and traveled the world a lot, it was rare to see me sit behide an office desk,i employed one person to do that for me.
Posted by: George on 12:37pm Sun 31 Aug 08
[quote]This superiority is offensive and condescending to all other contributors.[/quote]
I don't think its all that offensive. I find it amusing sometimes when he tries his twists and turns to avoid appearing wrong, but it's hard to be offended by something that blatantly exposes faulty reasoning. But mostly, it's hard to find Southy offensive because he's one of the few contributors who pretty much always avoids the rampant [italic]ad hominem[/italic] that pervades these boards. I've had a few enormous disagreements with him that, had he been another poster, would have resulted in a massive amount of name-calling, me being followed around the boards and repeatedly jumped upon with "I'm George I think I know everything" quotes. Happens with a really boring regularity, because a lot of people simply cannot disagree with someone else without taking it personally.
Southy's a curiosity alright, but an on-topic one, and a calm one
This superiority is offensive and condescending to all other contributors.
I don't think its all that offensive. I find it amusing sometimes when he tries his twists and turns to avoid appearing wrong, but it's hard to be offended by something that blatantly exposes faulty reasoning. But mostly, it's hard to find Southy offensive because he's one of the few contributors who pretty much always avoids the rampant
ad hominem that pervades these boards. I've had a few enormous disagreements with him that, had he been another poster, would have resulted in a massive amount of name-calling, me being followed around the boards and repeatedly jumped upon with "I'm George I think I know everything" quotes. Happens with a really boring regularity, because a lot of people simply cannot disagree with someone else without taking it personally.
Southy's a curiosity alright, but an on-topic one, and a calm one
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 2:05pm Sun 31 Aug 08
take no notice of them goerge,northy and co dont like to be proven wrong,and when you do prove they are wrong they get very offensive.
this might be due to when they was a baby there mum was trying to ween them of the dummy at the age of 5 when she should off never let them have a dummy you know the sort of kid the ones that throw a tamtrum in the shops or street when mummy said no
take no notice of them goerge,northy and co dont like to be proven wrong,and when you do prove they are wrong they get very offensive.
this might be due to when they was a baby there mum was trying to ween them of the dummy at the age of 5 when she should off never let them have a dummy you know the sort of kid the ones that throw a tamtrum in the shops or street when mummy said no
Posted by: last on 6:06pm Sun 31 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
take no notice of them goerge,northy and co dont like to be proven wrong,and when you do prove they are wrong they get very offensive.
this might be due to when they was a baby there mum was trying to ween them of the dummy at the age of 5 when she should off never let them have a dummy you know the sort of kid the ones that throw a tamtrum in the shops or street when mummy said no[/quote] word
southy wrote:
take no notice of them goerge,northy and co dont like to be proven wrong,and when you do prove they are wrong they get very offensive.
this might be due to when they was a baby there mum was trying to ween them of the dummy at the age of 5 when she should off never let them have a dummy you know the sort of kid the ones that throw a tamtrum in the shops or street when mummy said no
word
Posted by: George on 6:12pm Sun 31 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
take no notice of them goerge,northy and co dont like to be proven wrong,and when you do prove they are wrong they get very offensive.
this might be due to when they was a baby there mum was trying to ween them of the dummy at the age of 5 when she should off never let them have a dummy you know the sort of kid the ones that throw a tamtrum in the shops or street when mummy said no[/quote] All well and good, Southy, but where has anyone been proven wrong??
southy wrote:
take no notice of them goerge,northy and co dont like to be proven wrong,and when you do prove they are wrong they get very offensive.
this might be due to when they was a baby there mum was trying to ween them of the dummy at the age of 5 when she should off never let them have a dummy you know the sort of kid the ones that throw a tamtrum in the shops or street when mummy said no
All well and good, Southy, but where has anyone been proven wrong??
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 6:44pm Sun 31 Aug 08
not in the ice rinks items goerge.the only time when this is proven right or wrong will be when they build it and see what happens.
not in the ice rinks items goerge.the only time when this is proven right or wrong will be when they build it and see what happens.
Posted by: George on 6:47pm Sun 31 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
not in the ice rinks items goerge.the only time when this is proven right or wrong will be when they build it and see what happens.[/quote] Exactly. So, this "proving wrong" thing, then....
southy wrote:
not in the ice rinks items goerge.the only time when this is proven right or wrong will be when they build it and see what happens.
Exactly. So, this "proving wrong" thing, then....
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 7:18pm Sun 31 Aug 08
go's back a long while now,was about an item on the docks,they been following me around ever since
go's back a long while now,was about an item on the docks,they been following me around ever since
Posted by: George on 7:27pm Sun 31 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
go's back a long while now,was about an item on the docks,they been following me around ever since [/quote] Oh right, that old chestnut!
southy wrote:
go's back a long while now,was about an item on the docks,they been following me around ever since
Oh right, that old chestnut!
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 7:50pm Sun 31 Aug 08
yup that chestnut,still while they picking on me they giving some one else a rest
yup that chestnut,still while they picking on me they giving some one else a rest
Posted by: Admissions Officer, RSH on 8:43pm Sun 31 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
go's back a long while now,was about an item on the docks,they been following me around ever since [/quote] "They"?
This paranoia and persecution complex is troubling.
We have spare beds. The admission process is streamlined and we can help you fill out forms.
We respect confidentiality, so "they" won't find you here.
southy wrote:
go's back a long while now,was about an item on the docks,they been following me around ever since
"They"?
This paranoia and persecution complex is troubling.
We have spare beds. The admission process is streamlined and we can help you fill out forms.
We respect confidentiality, so "they" won't find you here.
Posted by: live local, southampton on 9:03pm Sun 31 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
enjoy your self brick i am off to tower park myself going to have a nice swimming in that nice warm water pool they got down there in the fittness center[/quote] You claim to support the ice rink but will only use it if it is built near Redbridge.
Then say you would rather go to Tower park... Is that the one with the ice rink you go to. Please find the ice rink that you tell us is there?
Plus I still want to know how The closed rink at richmond made 4 million from an ice show.
Finally you secret news from your M8 (mate) at Costains saying they are going to build 10 ice rinks. How about some reference, or shall I quote my mate who says you are lying, and don't give me the top secret twaddle, no company would getr to an advanced stage of planning a multiple project like that with out public knowlege. there would be planning enquiries, public consultation etc
southy wrote:
enjoy your self brick i am off to tower park myself going to have a nice swimming in that nice warm water pool they got down there in the fittness center
You claim to support the ice rink but will only use it if it is built near Redbridge.
Then say you would rather go to Tower park... Is that the one with the ice rink you go to. Please find the ice rink that you tell us is there?
Plus I still want to know how The closed rink at richmond made 4 million from an ice show.
Finally you secret news from your M8 (mate) at Costains saying they are going to build 10 ice rinks. How about some reference, or shall I quote my mate who says you are lying, and don't give me the top secret twaddle, no company would getr to an advanced stage of planning a multiple project like that with out public knowlege. there would be planning enquiries, public consultation etc
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 10:48pm Sun 31 Aug 08
live local said [quote]You claim to support the ice rink but will only use it if it is built near Redbridge[/quote]Stop putting words into my mouth i did not say that,i said i not use the temp rink this winter,unless i am in the library i might pop round.
[quote]Then say you would rather go to Tower park... Is that the one with the ice rink you go to. Please find the ice rink that you tell us is there[/quote] for you to belive you need to go there your self or are you to lazy to get out of that chair and look for places.
[quote]Plus I still want to know how The closed rink at richmond made 4 million from an ice show. [/quote] you are saying 4 million on a ice show i did't.i said the company that ran richmond ice rink is still making a profit they are still reg has a business.and are more than likey mading money though the banks till the day when they get a new ice rink.
[quote]Finally you secret news from your M8 (mate) at Costains saying they are going to build 10 ice rinks. How about some reference[/quote]again you are trying to put words in my mouth now watch the lips [bold]I said costains might be putting in a bid to build the 10 new ice rinks in the uk[/bold] they are not the planner nore the developer they might be the builder if they win the bid or bids.dont you know how the construction industry works.and if i was you i would get new m8's that know how the construction industry works.there would be planning enquiries, public consultation,only if there is objections to the 3 public notice.
a little foot note for you my m8 in costains was asking me if i had any spare riggers on my books,or know of any good erector riggers in the near future that will be available.theres going to be a shortage of them.due to a major project that coming up on the south coast some where and is going to take 3 to 5 years to do.
live local said
You claim to support the ice rink but will only use it if it is built near Redbridge
Stop putting words into my mouth i did not say that,i said i not use the temp rink this winter,unless i am in the library i might pop round.
Then say you would rather go to Tower park... Is that the one with the ice rink you go to. Please find the ice rink that you tell us is there
for you to belive you need to go there your self or are you to lazy to get out of that chair and look for places.
Plus I still want to know how The closed rink at richmond made 4 million from an ice show.
you are saying 4 million on a ice show i did't.i said the company that ran richmond ice rink is still making a profit they are still reg has a business.and are more than likey mading money though the banks till the day when they get a new ice rink.
Finally you secret news from your M8 (mate) at Costains saying they are going to build 10 ice rinks. How about some reference
again you are trying to put words in my mouth now watch the lips
I said costains might be putting in a bid to build the 10 new ice rinks in the uk they are not the planner nore the developer they might be the builder if they win the bid or bids.dont you know how the construction industry works.and if i was you i would get new m8's that know how the construction industry works.there would be planning enquiries, public consultation,only if there is objections to the 3 public notice.
a little foot note for you my m8 in costains was asking me if i had any spare riggers on my books,or know of any good erector riggers in the near future that will be available.theres going to be a shortage of them.due to a major project that coming up on the south coast some where and is going to take 3 to 5 years to do.
Posted by: also local on 12:05am Mon 1 Sep 08
Ohhh! Getting techy, arn't we.
Where's the calm exterior gone?
Defensive hogwash.
Still making up porkies.
"Might". "If". All rather conveniently vague.
Big footnote: "now watch the lips", an impossibility.
Ohhh! Getting techy, arn't we.
Where's the calm exterior gone?
Defensive hogwash.
Still making up porkies.
"Might". "If". All rather conveniently vague.
Big footnote: "now watch the lips", an impossibility.
Posted by: live local, southampton on 2:10am Mon 1 Sep 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
live local said [quote]You claim to support the ice rink but will only use it if it is built near Redbridge[/quote]Stop putting words into my mouth i did not say that,i said i not use the temp rink this winter,unless i am in the library i might pop round. [quote]Then say you would rather go to Tower park... Is that the one with the ice rink you go to. Please find the ice rink that you tell us is there[/quote] for you to belive you need to go there your self or are you to lazy to get out of that chair and look for places. [quote]Plus I still want to know how The closed rink at richmond made 4 million from an ice show. [/quote] you are saying 4 million on a ice show i did\'t.i said the company that ran richmond ice rink is still making a profit they are still reg has a business.and are more than likey mading money though the banks till the day when they get a new ice rink. [quote]Finally you secret news from your M8 (mate) at Costains saying they are going to build 10 ice rinks. How about some reference[/quote]again you are trying to put words in my mouth now watch the lips [bold]I said costains might be putting in a bid to build the 10 new ice rinks in the uk[/bold] they are not the planner nore the developer they might be the builder if they win the bid or bids.dont you know how the construction industry works.and if i was you i would get new m8\'s that know how the construction industry works.there would be planning enquiries, public consultation,only if there is objections to the 3 public notice. a little foot note for you my m8 in costains was asking me if i had any spare riggers on my books,or know of any good erector riggers in the near future that will be available.theres going to be a shortage of them.due to a major project that coming up on the south coast some where and is going to take 3 to 5 years to do. [/quote] Posted by: [bold]southy, redbridge on 11:11pm Sun 24 Aug 08[/bold] live local, southampton where was last year's world figure ice skating champions ships held the uk leg.this championship use to earn richmond millions of £ in revenue over the 4 weeks it use to take place,the final part that is on tv was the biggest earner
live local, southampton where was last year's world figure ice skating champions ships
[bold]Your words now please respond[/bold]
still waiting for this anwser:-
Posted by: live local, southampton on 1:03pm Tue 26 Aug 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: live local we only see the final part on tv, the pairs,women singles,men singles. freestyle and complusery what we dont see is the judging for points where the judges go on to the ice with skaters and look at the tracks in the ice when the skaters are ask to do movements like figure of 8 toe loops ect [/quote] Dear Southy I am well aware that there is more to judging than the bit we see on TV, but the question was [bold]how did they manage this at Richmond ice rink? As the ice rink was closed in 1987[/bold] Can you also clarify why you are still referring to [bold]the ice rink at Tower Park Poole which is also closed?[/bold] If you are going to give reference to other facilities it is rather important to make sure you are correct or people will think you are silly!
southy wrote:
live local we only see the final part on tv, the pairs,women singles,men singles. freestyle and complusery what we dont see is the judging for points where the judges go on to the ice with skaters and look at the tracks in the ice when the skaters are ask to do movements like figure of 8 toe loops ect
Dear Southy I am well aware that there is more to judging than the bit we see on TV, but the question
southy wrote:
live local said You claim to support the ice rink but will only use it if it is built near Redbridge
Stop putting words into my mouth i did not say that,i said i not use the temp rink this winter,unless i am in the library i might pop round. Then say you would rather go to Tower park... Is that the one with the ice rink you go to. Please find the ice rink that you tell us is there
for you to belive you need to go there your self or are you to lazy to get out of that chair and look for places. Plus I still want to know how The closed rink at richmond made 4 million from an ice show.
you are saying 4 million on a ice show i did\'t.i said the company that ran richmond ice rink is still making a profit they are still reg has a business.and are more than likey mading money though the banks till the day when they get a new ice rink. Finally you secret news from your M8 (mate) at Costains saying they are going to build 10 ice rinks. How about some reference
again you are trying to put words in my mouth now watch the lips I said costains might be putting in a bid to build the 10 new ice rinks in the uk they are not the planner nore the developer they might be the builder if they win the bid or bids.dont you know how the construction industry works.and if i was you i would get new m8\'s that know how the construction industry works.there would be planning enquiries, public consultation,only if there is objections to the 3 public notice. a little foot note for you my m8 in costains was asking me if i had any spare riggers on my books,or know of any good erector riggers in the near future that will be available.theres going to be a shortage of them.due to a major project that coming up on the south coast some where and is going to take 3 to 5 years to do.
Posted by:
southy, redbridge on 11:11pm Sun 24 Aug 08 live local, southampton where was last year's world figure ice skating champions ships held the uk leg.this championship use to earn richmond millions of £ in revenue over the 4 weeks it use to take place,the final part that is on tv was the biggest earner
live local, southampton where was last year's world figure ice skating champions ships
Your words now please respond
still waiting for this anwser:-
Posted by: live local, southampton on 1:03pm Tue 26 Aug 08
southy wrote: live local we only see the final part on tv, the pairs,women singles,men singles. freestyle and complusery what we dont see is the judging for points where the judges go on to the ice with skaters and look at the tracks in the ice when the skaters are ask to do movements like figure of 8 toe loops ect
Dear Southy I am well aware that there is more to judging than the bit we see on TV, but the question was
how did they manage this at Richmond ice rink? As the ice rink was closed in 1987 Can you also clarify why you are still referring to
the ice rink at Tower Park Poole which is also closed? If you are going to give reference to other facilities it is rather important to make sure you are correct or people will think you are silly!
southy wrote:
live local we only see the final part on tv, the pairs,women singles,men singles. freestyle and complusery what we dont see is the judging for points where the judges go on to the ice with skaters and look at the tracks in the ice when the skaters are ask to do movements like figure of 8 toe loops ect
Dear Southy I am well aware that there is more to judging than the bit we see on TV, but the question
Posted by: George on 8:22am Mon 1 Sep 08
[quote]for you to belive you need to go there your self or are you to lazy to get out of that chair and look for places.[/quote]
Come off is, Southy, it doesn't work like that and you know it. He's looked it up, as have I. The ice rink at Tower Park closed down years ago and you know it. Claiming it's there and refusing to accept that anyone else might ever be right about anything is a bit pointless, and saying "go find it", well, now you're just pretending you're flat-out denying. Or have you moved on from custom-fitted definitions of the word "conjecture" to re-defining the word "exists"?
Come on, Southy, there's no ice rink at Tower Park and you know it. Just admit it!
for you to belive you need to go there your self or are you to lazy to get out of that chair and look for places.
Come off is, Southy, it doesn't work like that and you know it. He's looked it up, as have I. The ice rink at Tower Park closed down years ago and you know it. Claiming it's there and refusing to accept that anyone else might ever be right about anything is a bit pointless, and saying "go find it", well, now you're just pretending you're flat-out denying. Or have you moved on from custom-fitted definitions of the word "conjecture" to re-defining the word "exists"?
Come on, Southy, there's no ice rink at Tower Park and you know it. Just admit it!
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 12:34pm Mon 1 Sep 08
its still there george,and the only way is to get your coat on and take drive down there.you can see it from the fittness center,whitch is where i go 1 mth for there warm swimming pool.weather if it was going to be closed down or closed for refrubishment that i cant tell you,but people who just quote from the internet is going to give out wrong info a lot of the time,thats why all web sites have disclamers for,old ibm saying rubbish in and rubbish out
its still there george,and the only way is to get your coat on and take drive down there.you can see it from the fittness center,whitch is where i go 1 mth for there warm swimming pool.weather if it was going to be closed down or closed for refrubishment that i cant tell you,but people who just quote from the internet is going to give out wrong info a lot of the time,thats why all web sites have disclamers for,old ibm saying rubbish in and rubbish out
Posted by: George on 12:55pm Mon 1 Sep 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
its still there george,and the only way is to get your coat on and take drive down there.you can see it from the fittness center,whitch is where i go 1 mth for there warm swimming pool.weather if it was going to be closed down or closed for refrubishment that i cant tell you,but people who just quote from the internet is going to give out wrong info a lot of the time,thats why all web sites have disclamers for,old ibm saying rubbish in and rubbish out[/quote] Ah, the old "the Internet is wrong" get-out.
Well, I just phoned Tower Park and asked about their ice rink, and was told that they had one years ago but it's no longer there. Nor is there one in the vicinity. So presumably this is all just some massive conspiracy to keep details of this ice rink secret from everyone, is it?
The defence rests.
PS. The quote "rubbish in, rubbish out" is actually "garbage in, garbage out" and it isn't an IBM slogan, it was a term used by someone who at one point was an IBM engineer, but he really got it from Charles Babbage. If you're gonna hide the truth behind a soundbite, make sure you've got the right soundbite
southy wrote:
its still there george,and the only way is to get your coat on and take drive down there.you can see it from the fittness center,whitch is where i go 1 mth for there warm swimming pool.weather if it was going to be closed down or closed for refrubishment that i cant tell you,but people who just quote from the internet is going to give out wrong info a lot of the time,thats why all web sites have disclamers for,old ibm saying rubbish in and rubbish out
Ah, the old "the Internet is wrong" get-out.
Well, I just phoned Tower Park and asked about their ice rink, and was told that they had one years ago but it's no longer there. Nor is there one in the vicinity. So presumably this is all just some massive conspiracy to keep details of this ice rink secret from everyone, is it?
The defence rests.
PS. The quote "rubbish in, rubbish out" is actually "garbage in, garbage out" and it isn't an IBM slogan, it was a term used by someone who at one point was an IBM engineer, but he really got it from Charles Babbage. If you're gonna hide the truth behind a soundbite, make sure you've got the right soundbite
Posted by: George on 2:28pm Mon 1 Sep 08
A rare deafening silence fron the Southy corner! Am I to assume that you're simply going to pretend this proof that you're just making stuff up doesn't exist?
A rare deafening silence fron the Southy corner! Am I to assume that you're simply going to pretend this proof that you're just making stuff up doesn't exist?
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 2:56pm Mon 1 Sep 08
nope no silence from me
[PS. The quote "rubbish in, rubbish out" is actually "garbage in, garbage out" and it isn't an IBM.] sorry you are right there it is garbage and not rubbish.but george drive down there and come in from the by pass end and not town end
nope no silence from me
sorry you are right there it is garbage and not rubbish.but george drive down there and come in from the by pass end and not town end
Posted by: George on 3:17pm Mon 1 Sep 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
nope no silence from me
[PS. The quote "rubbish in, rubbish out" is actually "garbage in, garbage out" and it isn't an IBM.] sorry you are right there it is garbage and not rubbish.but george drive down there and come in from the by pass end and not town end [/quote] Sorry Southy, I'm not going on some fools errand because you're in denial. Unless there's some gateway to an alternative reality at that end of Poole, I'm doubtful it'll yield any new results. There is no ice rink there, it's been confirmed by a real, actual human being who is there, and in a position to know. Not some website you can dismiss as being "wrong" because it's on the Internet. An actual employee of the leisure facility in question. You're making stuff up, pure and simple, and even when caught out on this, you still persist. If there was a way to shake ones head in baffled pity over the Internet, I'd employ it right now. I can only hope that this is mere stubbornness on your part, and not an actual delusion.
So there it is, readers. The reason this ice rink campaign is doomed to failure. Those behind it have repeatedly proven they're not in the least bit concerned with factual information, reality, or truth. Some ice-rink "facts" for you:
1) 5000 people out of 204,000 is a landslide. Those who did not sign the petition, would have, had they not not signed it. Or something
2) The result "7-3" by an ice hockey team is irrefutable proof that an ice rink would be economically viable
3) The word "conjecture" has a different meaning, dependent upon whether it is applied to ice rinks or not
4) Anything other than a flat-out denial of a proposal can be considered a "100% success"
5) Anyone who follows a sport on TV would actively participate in it, if the facility existed in the local area
6) There is an ice rink in Tower Park, Poole. The fact that it has not actually existed for the best part of twenty years is irrelevant. It exists nonetheless, but is being kept a secret by all involved, for reasons that are yet to be adequately explored
7) Anyone who concerns themselves with concrete facts, rather than whimsy, has a negative attitude. Probably linked to the fact that cartoon characters don't realise they're walking on thin air until they actually measure this fact. It's amazing what one can accomplish when one is ignorant of outside limitations. Apparently
8) If one wishes for something hard enough, and ones heart is pure, rational arguments are utterly meaningless
9) The only way a campaign can fail, is if an equal and opposite campaign to the contrary succeeds. Quite how this paradox manifests itself is as yet unknown.
10) The Internet is wrong, except in situations where it can be shown to support an ice rink in Southampton
Quite an amazing amount of denial, really
southy wrote:
nope no silence from me
sorry you are right there it is garbage and not rubbish.but george drive down there and come in from the by pass end and not town end
Sorry Southy, I'm not going on some fools errand because you're in denial. Unless there's some gateway to an alternative reality at that end of Poole, I'm doubtful it'll yield any new results. There is no ice rink there, it's been confirmed by a real, actual human being who is there, and in a position to know. Not some website you can dismiss as being "wrong" because it's on the Internet. An actual employee of the leisure facility in question. You're making stuff up, pure and simple, and even when caught out on this, you still persist. If there was a way to shake ones head in baffled pity over the Internet, I'd employ it right now. I can only hope that this is mere stubbornness on your part, and not an actual delusion.
So there it is, readers. The reason this ice rink campaign is doomed to failure. Those behind it have repeatedly proven they're not in the least bit concerned with factual information, reality, or truth. Some ice-rink "facts" for you:
1) 5000 people out of 204,000 is a landslide. Those who did not sign the petition, would have, had they not not signed it. Or something
2) The result "7-3" by an ice hockey team is irrefutable proof that an ice rink would be economically viable
3) The word "conjecture" has a different meaning, dependent upon whether it is applied to ice rinks or not
4) Anything other than a flat-out denial of a proposal can be considered a "100% success"
5) Anyone who follows a sport on TV would actively participate in it, if the facility existed in the local area
6) There is an ice rink in Tower Park, Poole. The fact that it has not actually existed for the best part of twenty years is irrelevant. It exists nonetheless, but is being kept a secret by all involved, for reasons that are yet to be adequately explored
7) Anyone who concerns themselves with concrete facts, rather than whimsy, has a negative attitude. Probably linked to the fact that cartoon characters don't realise they're walking on thin air until they actually measure this fact. It's amazing what one can accomplish when one is ignorant of outside limitations. Apparently
8) If one wishes for something hard enough, and ones heart is pure, rational arguments are utterly meaningless
9) The only way a campaign can fail, is if an equal and opposite campaign to the contrary succeeds. Quite how this paradox manifests itself is as yet unknown.
10) The Internet is wrong, except in situations where it can be shown to support an ice rink in Southampton
Quite an amazing amount of denial, really
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 4:11pm Mon 1 Sep 08
shame you will not take that drive to poole would of been nice to meet you.i even would of paid for your fuel.
1)trouble is a lot people where not in town when the petition was there to be signed and not every one knows that you can do it on line, not that i would trust the figures for an on line petition you seen how the echo site can multiply on posts.and one person can put in multi votes.
2) agree with a hockey result do not proof that an ice rink would be economically viable,but did any one take notice of how many supporters went i hear there was a fair number that did go to watch it.
3)depends maily how you apply it.
4)it is in a way they got want they wanted on the council to find a developers or the council to start listen to developers
5)unknown has to date need one to really to find out.
6)20 odd years ago was when the locals started to complane because they was getting turned away in the evening,george do you want to have a laugh look on the map for tower park and see where it located if they not up dated it i did mail them and told them they got the wrong western road any way they got it located across the road from the docker's family home in the riches square mile in the uk.
7) concrete facts can only be gain after the build is done and in use.look what happen at the town quay when that first open up to the public council and traders said this will be a great for the people of the southampton bring in money for the local people,was soon relize that the town quay project failed,the first traders that went on to the town quay did not stay long.but it is holding it own at the moment for how long who knows.
8)proof will be in the pudding.
8) theres good rational arguments on both sides of the fence,
9)it helps to see a campaign on both sides.and i still think the west side would be better for an ice rink,if it built in the center of town there be to many that would not go,more so those that live out side of southampton places like fordingbridge or salisbury
shame you will not take that drive to poole would of been nice to meet you.i even would of paid for your fuel.
1)trouble is a lot people where not in town when the petition was there to be signed and not every one knows that you can do it on line, not that i would trust the figures for an on line petition you seen how the echo site can multiply on posts.and one person can put in multi votes.
2) agree with a hockey result do not proof that an ice rink would be economically viable,but did any one take notice of how many supporters went i hear there was a fair number that did go to watch it.
3)depends maily how you apply it.
4)it is in a way they got want they wanted on the council to find a developers or the council to start listen to developers
5)unknown has to date need one to really to find out.
6)20 odd years ago was when the locals started to complane because they was getting turned away in the evening,george do you want to have a laugh look on the map for tower park and see where it located if they not up dated it i did mail them and told them they got the wrong western road any way they got it located across the road from the docker's family home in the riches square mile in the uk.
7) concrete facts can only be gain after the build is done and in use.look what happen at the town quay when that first open up to the public council and traders said this will be a great for the people of the southampton bring in money for the local people,was soon relize that the town quay project failed,the first traders that went on to the town quay did not stay long.but it is holding it own at the moment for how long who knows.
8)proof will be in the pudding.
8) theres good rational arguments on both sides of the fence,
9)it helps to see a campaign on both sides.and i still think the west side would be better for an ice rink,if it built in the center of town there be to many that would not go,more so those that live out side of southampton places like fordingbridge or salisbury
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 4:13pm Mon 1 Sep 08
oh sorry missed out
10) internet is only good for a rough guidline even for southampton ice rink
oh sorry missed out
10) internet is only good for a rough guidline even for southampton ice rink
Posted by: George on 4:29pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Southy, there is no ice rink in Tower Park. The only evidence that there is, is you saying so. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary, including verbal confirmation by staff at Tower Park
Southy, there is no ice rink in Tower Park. The only evidence that there is, is you saying so. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary, including verbal confirmation by staff at Tower Park
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 4:39pm Mon 1 Sep 08
you mean the call centre for the company that runs tower park,if you want evidence drive down there on the last firday of the mth and i pay for your fuel
you mean the call centre for the company that runs tower park,if you want evidence drive down there on the last firday of the mth and i pay for your fuel
Posted by: also local on 4:55pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Southy, ( or should it be “Mouthy” ? )
"Live local' scored a direct bulls-eye.
But even more significantly, "George" your erstwhile buddy and defender, has inflicted the knockout punch.
Your credibility is gone.
What was it, an initial lie you could not admit to, so you wove further lie upon lie?
Or is it that you have a serious inferiority complex and try and compensate for it by parking yourself on a self-constructed lofty throne of Local Knowledge and peer down from it, to rubbish all and sundry who will not accept at face value, your un-sourced claims and outright transparent, whoppers?
A review of your postings makes sad reading.
You are a sad, sad individual.
Any further postings by you will justifiably be treated as suspect and totally lacking in credibility. As will, any postings by your twin ID “Brick”.
You should find another pastime.
Go sit in the library. Read a book on personal ethical behaviour.
Southy, ( or should it be “Mouthy” ? )
"Live local' scored a direct bulls-eye.
But even more significantly, "George" your erstwhile buddy and defender, has inflicted the knockout punch.
Your credibility is gone.
What was it, an initial lie you could not admit to, so you wove further lie upon lie?
Or is it that you have a serious inferiority complex and try and compensate for it by parking yourself on a self-constructed lofty throne of Local Knowledge and peer down from it, to rubbish all and sundry who will not accept at face value, your un-sourced claims and outright transparent, whoppers?
A review of your postings makes sad reading.
You are a sad, sad individual.
Any further postings by you will justifiably be treated as suspect and totally lacking in credibility. As will, any postings by your twin ID “Brick”.
You should find another pastime.
Go sit in the library. Read a book on personal ethical behaviour.
Posted by: George on 4:58pm Mon 1 Sep 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
you mean the call centre for the company that runs tower park,if you want evidence drive down there on the last firday of the mth and i pay for your fuel [/quote] Last Friday of the month? Sorry, can't make it. I'm taking my magic carpet to the new intergalactic hypermarket on the Moon. My unicorn needs re-hoofing.
It ain't there. I spoke to them. Not a call centre. An actual employee [bold]at Tower Park[/bold]. Why would there be absolutely no way of finding this ice rink, other than by some mysterious directions known only to you? It's not in the back of a wardrobe is it? Fancy some Turkish Delight?
southy wrote:
you mean the call centre for the company that runs tower park,if you want evidence drive down there on the last firday of the mth and i pay for your fuel
Last Friday of the month? Sorry, can't make it. I'm taking my magic carpet to the new intergalactic hypermarket on the Moon. My unicorn needs re-hoofing.
It ain't there. I spoke to them. Not a call centre. An actual employee
at Tower Park. Why would there be absolutely no way of finding this ice rink, other than by some mysterious directions known only to you? It's not in the back of a wardrobe is it? Fancy some Turkish Delight?
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 5:58pm Mon 1 Sep 08
also local aka live local and other names you could not hit a bulls-eye if it was the size of a barn door.the only people thats got credibility are the ones that uses one name and keeps to that one name,people such has george andy my self and a few others.we do not hide when proven wrong by changing names like your self.
also local aka live local and other names you could not hit a bulls-eye if it was the size of a barn door.the only people thats got credibility are the ones that uses one name and keeps to that one name,people such has george andy my self and a few others.we do not hide when proven wrong by changing names like your self.
Posted by: also local on 6:19pm Mon 1 Sep 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
also local aka live local and other names you could not hit a bulls-eye if it was the size of a barn door.the only people thats got credibility are the ones that uses one name and keeps to that one name,people such has george andy my self and a few others.we do not hide when proven wrong by changing names like your self.
[/quote] wong [bold]yet again[/bold] about "several names"
You are pathetic.
Sad, sad excuse for a person.
A fixated liar.
In dire need of mental health intervention.
No further comment. Comments just feed into your bottomless pit of nausiating narcissus nonsense.
Go on. Respond. Have the last word. Always, you have to have the last word. Its part of your mental health problem. Have the last word on me. Whatever you write, I will not read. So your last word will be futile, pointless, other than making you ( falsely ) feel important, powerful. All about power innit, Southy, Mouthy.?
Now you are powerless.
bye
southy wrote:
also local aka live local and other names you could not hit a bulls-eye if it was the size of a barn door.the only people thats got credibility are the ones that uses one name and keeps to that one name,people such has george andy my self and a few others.we do not hide when proven wrong by changing names like your self.
wong
yet again about "several names"
You are pathetic.
Sad, sad excuse for a person.
A fixated liar.
In dire need of mental health intervention.
No further comment. Comments just feed into your bottomless pit of nausiating narcissus nonsense.
Go on. Respond. Have the last word. Always, you have to have the last word. Its part of your mental health problem. Have the last word on me. Whatever you write, I will not read. So your last word will be futile, pointless, other than making you ( falsely ) feel important, powerful. All about power innit, Southy, Mouthy.?
Now you are powerless.
bye
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 6:32pm Mon 1 Sep 08
oh theres that name calling again,lol all ways do that dont you when you been caught out
oh theres that name calling again,lol all ways do that dont you when you been caught out
Posted by: George on 6:34pm Mon 1 Sep 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
oh theres that name calling again,lol all ways do that dont you when you been caught out[/quote] Not being funny, Southy, but how's he been caught out? You've been caught out, with the whole non-existent ice rink in Tower Park thing. Please don't insult my intelligence by carrying on claiming it's there. It isn't, and we all know it
southy wrote:
oh theres that name calling again,lol all ways do that dont you when you been caught out
Not being funny, Southy, but how's he been caught out? You've been caught out, with the whole non-existent ice rink in Tower Park thing. Please don't insult my intelligence by carrying on claiming it's there. It isn't, and we all know it
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 6:39pm Mon 1 Sep 08
there is one there george i gave you the offer to see for your self up to you if you want to take it or not.
there is one there george i gave you the offer to see for your self up to you if you want to take it or not.
Posted by: George on 6:49pm Mon 1 Sep 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
there is one there george i gave you the offer to see for your self up to you if you want to take it or not.
[/quote] Dear oh dear! It isn't there. I've asked. I've looked into it. It doesn't exist
southy wrote:
there is one there george i gave you the offer to see for your self up to you if you want to take it or not.
Dear oh dear! It isn't there. I've asked. I've looked into it. It doesn't exist
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 7:08pm Mon 1 Sep 08
i was refering to the multi names that local use.
any way it dont matter about tower park,i know there is one,i will ask question about it next time i down there.any way look at it like this if theres not one there then that makes southampton ice rink even more viable and more likey to make a bigger profit has this would increase the size of the catchment area
i was refering to the multi names that local use.
any way it dont matter about tower park,i know there is one,i will ask question about it next time i down there.any way look at it like this if theres not one there then that makes southampton ice rink even more viable and more likey to make a bigger profit has this would increase the size of the catchment area
Posted by: George on 7:21pm Mon 1 Sep 08
[quote][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
i was refering to the multi names that local use.
any way it dont matter about tower park,i know there is one,i will ask question about it next time i down there.any way look at it like this if theres not one there then that makes southampton ice rink even more viable and more likey to make a bigger profit has this would increase the size of the catchment area [/quote] It does matter! You've been using that non-existent ice rink in your arguments for weeks. I just googled [bold]+"poole park" +"ice rink"[/bold]. Guess what the first hit was? Another Echo story where you claim you take people to this massively profitable ice rink at Tower Park about once a month.
http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/mostpopular.v
ar.2432571.mostcomme
nted.ice_rink_dream_
up_to_developers.php
Then there's a story from the Bournemouth Echo about a Bournemouth lass lamenting that she'll never be an Olympic skater unless Bournemouth gets an ice rink. Apparently, the nearest one is....Gosport, 52 miles away.
http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/mostpop
ular.var.1761735.mos
tviewed.ria_turns_up
_heat_on_ice_rink_de
bate.php
That's 2 stories on the first google page alone. One claims you go to an ice rink in Bournemouth/Poole on a regular basis, the other is from an Olympic hopeful from that same area who can't find an ice rink within 50 miles! Now you're trying to back-pedal a bit here, saying it doesn't matter, and maybe there isn't one after all, but the [bold]first thing you find[/italic] when searching for "poole park ice rink" is you claiming you go there all the time! You're quite clearly making this stuff up! There's little point carrying on the charade any longer
southy wrote:
i was refering to the multi names that local use.
any way it dont matter about tower park,i know there is one,i will ask question about it next time i down there.any way look at it like this if theres not one there then that makes southampton ice rink even more viable and more likey to make a bigger profit has this would increase the size of the catchment area
It does matter! You've been using that non-existent ice rink in your arguments for weeks. I just googled +"poole park" +"ice rink". Guess what the first hit was? Another Echo story where you claim you take people to this massively profitable ice rink at Tower Park about once a month.
http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/mostpopular.v
ar.2432571.mostcomme
nted.ice_rink_dream_
up_to_developers.php
Then there's a story from the Bournemouth Echo about a Bournemouth lass lamenting that she'll never be an Olympic skater unless Bournemouth gets an ice rink. Apparently, the nearest one is....Gosport, 52 miles away.
http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/mostpop
ular.var.1761735.mos
tviewed.ria_turns_up
_heat_on_ice_rink_de
bate.php
That's 2 stories on the first google page alone. One claims you go to an ice rink in Bournemouth/Poole on a regular basis, the other is from an Olympic hopeful from that same area who can't find an ice rink within 50 miles! Now you're trying to back-pedal a bit here, saying it doesn't matter, and maybe there isn't one after all, but the first thing you find when searching for "poole park ice rink" is you claiming you go there all the time! You're quite clearly making this stuff up! There's little point carrying on the charade any longer
Posted by: George on 7:29pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Here's another one from the Bournemouth Echo. A load of people bemoaning that they have to travel to Gosport or Basingstoke to ice skate. Why would they have to, when there's one right there in Tower Park?
http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/mostpop
ular.var.2084608.mos
tcommented.operator_
in_bid_for_permanent
_ice_rink.php
And a petition for an ice rink in Bournemouth
http://www.ipetition
s.com/petition/iceri
nk4bournemouth/
And another story lamenting the closure of the ice rink in 1991
http://www.thisisdor
set.net/display.var.
920399.0.0.php
And a press release from Bournemouth Borough Council about the [italic]possibility[/italic] of maybe opening an ice rink in Bournemouth
http://www.bournemou
th.gov.uk/News/press
_office/Press_Releas
es/May_2008/ice_rink
.asp
Seems odd that all these people are so desperate for an ice rink in Bournemouth, when there's one a coupe of miles up the road in Tower Park
Here's another one from the Bournemouth Echo. A load of people bemoaning that they have to travel to Gosport or Basingstoke to ice skate. Why would they have to, when there's one right there in Tower Park?
http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/mostpop
ular.var.2084608.mos
tcommented.operator_
in_bid_for_permanent
_ice_rink.php
And a petition for an ice rink in Bournemouth
http://www.ipetition
s.com/petition/iceri
nk4bournemouth/
And another story lamenting the closure of the ice rink in 1991
http://www.thisisdor
set.net/display.var.
920399.0.0.php
And a press release from Bournemouth Borough Council about the
possibility of maybe opening an ice rink in Bournemouth
http://www.bournemou
th.gov.uk/News/press
_office/Press_Releas
es/May_2008/ice_rink
.asp
Seems odd that all these people are so desperate for an ice rink in Bournemouth, when there's one a coupe of miles up the road in Tower Park
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 7:38pm Mon 1 Sep 08
gosport a olympic size,intresting i ways thought that was a few inches under size.pool park ice rink is very small its a mini rink opens up at 10am and closes at 6pm and was only built for the holiday makers that use rocky sands caravan and camping site thats it tied to and is only for familys mainly with young kids.
gosport a olympic size,intresting i ways thought that was a few inches under size.pool park ice rink is very small its a mini rink opens up at 10am and closes at 6pm and was only built for the holiday makers that use rocky sands caravan and camping site thats it tied to and is only for familys mainly with young kids.
Posted by: George on 7:44pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Southy, what are your thoughts on this ice rink at Tower Parks, that nobody else knows about, including the ice skating fraternity of Bournemouth and Poole, Bournemouth Borough Council and Tower Park themselves, but you manage to frequent on a monthly basis?
