Last Orders for Glass
The Daily Echo campaign, supported by the police, is to encourage late-night bars and clubs in Hampshire to switch from glass to plastic.
Last orders for glass in bid to stop violence
IT can quickly turn an
evening at a city centre
nightspot into a scene of
violence.
Using a glass or bottle as a
weapon can result in devastating
injuries that can scar a victim for
life - and attacks are on the rise.
According to a Southampton consultant
more people are being
admitted to hospital following
glassing attacks than ever before.
That is why the Daily Echo is
today launching its Last Orders
For Glass' campaign that calls for
late night bars and clubs to serve all
drinks in plastic glasses.
We are urging these
establishments to
switch from traditional
pint, half pint and
wine glasses to high
end plastic - polycarbonate
- containers.
In Southampton city
centre alone fewer
than one in ten
nightspots currently
use the virtually
unbreakable polycarbonate
containers that
are durable and can be
used hundreds of
times over.
Dr John Heyworth, a
consultant in
Southampton General
Hospital's emergency department,
is backing the Daily Echo's campaign
after seeing a definite
increase in the number of glassing
victims during the last five years.
He said: "There has been a steady
increase which has caused a lot of
concern for us and we would be
very keen to see any steps that
would reduce the
number of glassing
incidents.
"Switching to plastic
containers is a change
that has enormous
benefits."
The hospital's emergency
department currently
sees around
four or five victims of
glassing incidents
every weekend -
totalling in the region
of around 260 patients
a year who are mostly
aged in their teens or
early twenties.
Dr Heyworth, who
has worked at
Southampton General
for the last 12 years said: "People do
not usually die from these sorts of
incidents but they can be left with
lifelong scarring and disfigurements.
"We see a lot of patients who have
multiple wounds. They need extensive
cleaning and stitches requiring
specialist skills.
"More seriously, people can suffer
deep wounds to the neck, cheek,
nose, mouth and eye requiring
major repair in the operating theatre.
"Most of the assaults cause permanent
lifelong scarring - it's a
very big price to pay and the person's
life is affected permanently
which is a tragedy," said Dr
Heyworth who is a Fellow of the
Royal College of Surgeons and a
Fellow of the College of Emergency
Medicine.
He added that doctors and nurses
always tried to do the best for
patients but the increasing number
of people coming in with glass
related injuries was increasing
pressure on an already busy department.
As well as glassing attacks there
are also concerns that shards of
broken glass can pose a risk when
glasses are accidentally broken in
bars and clubs.
9:06am Friday 22nd February 2008
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CommentPosted by: Arthur T. Flowers, Shirley on 9:13am Fri 22 Feb 08
It's all very well replacing glasses with plastic ones but from my experience, the vast majority of drinks served in the type of establishments where these attacks are likely to take place are bottled - ie bottles of Becks, Budwieser or alcopops such as Smirnoff Ice, WKD etc. Are these drinks manufacturers going to do their bit and sell their products in plastic bottles?
It's all very well replacing glasses with plastic ones but from my experience, the vast majority of drinks served in the type of establishments where these attacks are likely to take place are bottled - ie bottles of Becks, Budwieser or alcopops such as Smirnoff Ice, WKD etc. Are these drinks manufacturers going to do their bit and sell their products in plastic bottles?
Posted by: hmm on 9:15am Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Arthur T. Flowers[/bold] wrote:
It's all very well replacing glasses with plastic ones but from my experience, the vast majority of drinks served in the type of establishments where these attacks are likely to take place are bottled - ie bottles of Becks, Budwieser or alcopops such as Smirnoff Ice, WKD etc. Are these drinks manufacturers going to do their bit and sell their products in plastic bottles?[/quote] They do allready
What a pathetic state we are in when we have to use plastic because of a few idiots
Arthur T. Flowers wrote:
It's all very well replacing glasses with plastic ones but from my experience, the vast majority of drinks served in the type of establishments where these attacks are likely to take place are bottled - ie bottles of Becks, Budwieser or alcopops such as Smirnoff Ice, WKD etc. Are these drinks manufacturers going to do their bit and sell their products in plastic bottles?
They do allready
What a pathetic state we are in when we have to use plastic because of a few idiots
Posted by: Christoff on 9:39am Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]hmm[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Arthur T. Flowers[/bold] wrote: It's all very well replacing glasses with plastic ones but from my experience, the vast majority of drinks served in the type of establishments where these attacks are likely to take place are bottled - ie bottles of Becks, Budwieser or alcopops such as Smirnoff Ice, WKD etc. Are these drinks manufacturers going to do their bit and sell their products in plastic bottles?[/quote] They do allready What a pathetic state we are in when we have to use plastic because of a few idiots[/quote] It is pathetic but I think that as long they restrict it to the nightclubs it won't be too bad. Drinking a pint out of a plastic container just isn't the same as glass and I hope they don't force pubs where sane people drink to follow suit. Yet again the pikeys and idiots are affecting our way of life.
hmm wrote:
Arthur T. Flowers wrote: It's all very well replacing glasses with plastic ones but from my experience, the vast majority of drinks served in the type of establishments where these attacks are likely to take place are bottled - ie bottles of Becks, Budwieser or alcopops such as Smirnoff Ice, WKD etc. Are these drinks manufacturers going to do their bit and sell their products in plastic bottles?
They do allready What a pathetic state we are in when we have to use plastic because of a few idiots
It is pathetic but I think that as long they restrict it to the nightclubs it won't be too bad. Drinking a pint out of a plastic container just isn't the same as glass and I hope they don't force pubs where sane people drink to follow suit. Yet again the pikeys and idiots are affecting our way of life.
Posted by: Bazz, Town on 10:02am Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote]In Southampton city centre alone fewer than one in ten nightspots currently use the virtually unbreakable polycarbonate containers that are durable and can be used hundreds of times over.[/quote]
These are the same "glasses" that are used at Walkabout, they are clearly not unbreakable as soon as there on the floor they break and they are quite expensive, plus everyone complains about plastic glasses!
In Southampton city centre alone fewer than one in ten nightspots currently use the virtually unbreakable polycarbonate containers that are durable and can be used hundreds of times over.
These are the same "glasses" that are used at Walkabout, they are clearly not unbreakable as soon as there on the floor they break and they are quite expensive, plus everyone complains about plastic glasses!
Posted by: Thanks for ruining it for everyone, Soton on 10:03am Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Christoff[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]hmm[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Arthur T. Flowers[/bold] wrote: It's all very well replacing glasses with plastic ones but from my experience, the vast majority of drinks served in the type of establishments where these attacks are likely to take place are bottled - ie bottles of Becks, Budwieser or alcopops such as Smirnoff Ice, WKD etc. Are these drinks manufacturers going to do their bit and sell their products in plastic bottles?[/quote] They do allready What a pathetic state we are in when we have to use plastic because of a few idiots[/quote] It is pathetic but I think that as long they restrict it to the nightclubs it won't be too bad. Drinking a pint out of a plastic container just isn't the same as glass and I hope they don't force pubs where sane people drink to follow suit. Yet again the pikeys and idiots are affecting our way of life. [/quote] You are right, drinking 'decent' beer from plastic glasses isn't the same but the places that this sort of thing happens do look after thier beer lines so the beer is disgusting no matter what type of glass you drink it out of. That said some of the scum that drink in these places don't care what it tastes like as long as it gets them battered and up for a fight!
Drink out of bottles when in these places because the beer will taste much better!
Christoff wrote:
hmm wrote: Arthur T. Flowers wrote: It's all very well replacing glasses with plastic ones but from my experience, the vast majority of drinks served in the type of establishments where these attacks are likely to take place are bottled - ie bottles of Becks, Budwieser or alcopops such as Smirnoff Ice, WKD etc. Are these drinks manufacturers going to do their bit and sell their products in plastic bottles?
They do allready What a pathetic state we are in when we have to use plastic because of a few idiots
It is pathetic but I think that as long they restrict it to the nightclubs it won't be too bad. Drinking a pint out of a plastic container just isn't the same as glass and I hope they don't force pubs where sane people drink to follow suit. Yet again the pikeys and idiots are affecting our way of life.
You are right, drinking 'decent' beer from plastic glasses isn't the same but the places that this sort of thing happens do look after thier beer lines so the beer is disgusting no matter what type of glass you drink it out of. That said some of the scum that drink in these places don't care what it tastes like as long as it gets them battered and up for a fight!
Drink out of bottles when in these places because the beer will taste much better!
Posted by: Thanks for ruining it for everyone, soton on 10:07am Fri 22 Feb 08
Sorry that was ment to say,
''don't look after their beer lines''
Sorry that was ment to say,
''don't look after their beer lines''
Posted by: *_*, A long time ago, in a future not too far away on 10:12am Fri 22 Feb 08
Greetings fellow humans. I am from a future where pubs and clubs no longer exist. (alcohol is banned)We are controlled like robots by our almighty President of Europe. We even have biometric ID cards and monitored on CCTV (even within our dwelling, So it's almost impossible to release a carbon fart without receiving a fine. At least we have time travel and teleportation. I'm off to visit Jesus on the cross now, farewell.
Greetings fellow humans. I am from a future where pubs and clubs no longer exist. (alcohol is banned)We are controlled like robots by our almighty President of Europe. We even have biometric ID cards and monitored on CCTV (even within our dwelling, So it's almost impossible to release a carbon fart without receiving a fine. At least we have time travel and teleportation. I'm off to visit Jesus on the cross now, farewell.
Posted by: Stop Being Soft, On My Soap Box on 10:19am Fri 22 Feb 08
Why is the focus not on the cause? Wrap the glasses in cotton wool for all you like, it still won't stop the anti-social behaviour that is become rife day and night.
The pubs and clubs operate on the basis of selling alcohol responsibly to responsible people, possibly even having a duty of care to other customers. If the pub /club has trouble, close it for a week, the next time, close it for two, then three until they realise they have a responsibility to only let in and serve responsible people.
Furthermore the 'friends' of these tw@ts who take pleasure in maiming others will soon lose respect when each pub slowly shuts its doors to them.
What next, plastic knives, because the metal ones are a bit sharp?
Take a bl00dy stand against this scum...
Why is the focus not on the cause? Wrap the glasses in cotton wool for all you like, it still won't stop the anti-social behaviour that is become rife day and night.
The pubs and clubs operate on the basis of selling alcohol responsibly to responsible people, possibly even having a duty of care to other customers. If the pub /club has trouble, close it for a week, the next time, close it for two, then three until they realise they have a responsibility to only let in and serve responsible people.
Furthermore the 'friends' of these tw@ts who take pleasure in maiming others will soon lose respect when each pub slowly shuts its doors to them.
What next, plastic knives, because the metal ones are a bit sharp?
Take a bl00dy stand against this scum...
Posted by: Denzil, Romsey on 10:36am Fri 22 Feb 08
How about last orders for students? They are pathetic and can't handle their Stella.
How about last orders for students? They are pathetic and can't handle their Stella.
Posted by: Keith Oftergrass on 10:51am Fri 22 Feb 08
Do we really care if a few drunks set about each other with glasses ? Particularly if they are students !!
Provided the areas are suitably Policed so that these morons don't go near decent people, what's the problem ?
Do we really care if a few drunks set about each other with glasses ? Particularly if they are students !!
Provided the areas are suitably Policed so that these morons don't go near decent people, what's the problem ?
Posted by: Really?!, Southampton on 11:10am Fri 22 Feb 08
I think you are all missing the point really! Someone has been seriously hurt. I know that some people ruin it for the rest of us but isn't it better to be safe and prevent another person being hurt in future?
We do need to take a stand against these people but thats not going to happen over night - at least this way people will be safe in clubs!
People also need to get over this student hate - we have a brilliant city that has 2 very good universities. we should be proud of it not slag them off. They bring alot of revenue in for the city as a whole.
I think you are all missing the point really! Someone has been seriously hurt. I know that some people ruin it for the rest of us but isn't it better to be safe and prevent another person being hurt in future?
We do need to take a stand against these people but thats not going to happen over night - at least this way people will be safe in clubs!
People also need to get over this student hate - we have a brilliant city that has 2 very good universities. we should be proud of it not slag them off. They bring alot of revenue in for the city as a whole.
Posted by: what a, horrible comment on 11:39am Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Keith Oftergrass[/bold] wrote:
Do we really care if a few drunks set about each other with glasses ? Particularly if they are students !! Provided the areas are suitably Policed so that these morons don't go near decent people, what's the problem ?[/quote] how would you define a decent person?
From all your posts, I personally would put you in the undecent category.
Keith Oftergrass wrote:
Do we really care if a few drunks set about each other with glasses ? Particularly if they are students !! Provided the areas are suitably Policed so that these morons don't go near decent people, what's the problem ?
how would you define a decent person?
From all your posts, I personally would put you in the undecent category.
Posted by: Christoff on 11:45am Fri 22 Feb 08
why have my comments being wiped?...my first one was in support of the Echo's self righteous campaign so no idea why deleted?? My second one had a joke in it but was far less offensive than the comment by Keith. Come on, whoever is reporting my posts, have some balls and say why.
why have my comments being wiped?...my first one was in support of the Echo's self righteous campaign so no idea why deleted?? My second one had a joke in it but was far less offensive than the comment by Keith. Come on, whoever is reporting my posts, have some balls and say why.
Posted by: Denzil, Romsey on 11:57am Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Christoff[/bold] wrote:
why have my comments being wiped?...my first one was in support of the Echo's self righteous campaign so no idea why deleted?? My second one had a joke in it but was far less offensive than the comment by Keith. Come on, whoever is reporting my posts, have some balls and say why.[/quote] My posts always get deleted and I never say anything wrong. Don't take it personally. ( It wasn't me by the way )
Christoff wrote:
why have my comments being wiped?...my first one was in support of the Echo's self righteous campaign so no idea why deleted?? My second one had a joke in it but was far less offensive than the comment by Keith. Come on, whoever is reporting my posts, have some balls and say why.
My posts always get deleted and I never say anything wrong. Don't take it personally. ( It wasn't me by the way )
Posted by: Shazza on 12:04pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Denzil[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Christoff[/bold] wrote: why have my comments being wiped?...my first one was in support of the Echo's self righteous campaign so no idea why deleted?? My second one had a joke in it but was far less offensive than the comment by Keith. Come on, whoever is reporting my posts, have some balls and say why.[/quote] My posts always get deleted and I never say anything wrong. Don't take it personally. ( It wasn't me by the way )[/quote] I have reported this post as I find it offensive. I also find you offensive Denzuil (only to look at mind).
Denzil wrote:
Christoff wrote: why have my comments being wiped?...my first one was in support of the Echo's self righteous campaign so no idea why deleted?? My second one had a joke in it but was far less offensive than the comment by Keith. Come on, whoever is reporting my posts, have some balls and say why.
My posts always get deleted and I never say anything wrong. Don't take it personally. ( It wasn't me by the way )
I have reported this post as I find it offensive. I also find you offensive Denzuil (only to look at mind).
Posted by: Christoff on 12:11pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Shazza[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Denzil[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Christoff[/bold] wrote: why have my comments being wiped?...my first one was in support of the Echo's self righteous campaign so no idea why deleted?? My second one had a joke in it but was far less offensive than the comment by Keith. Come on, whoever is reporting my posts, have some balls and say why.[/quote] My posts always get deleted and I never say anything wrong. Don't take it personally. ( It wasn't me by the way )[/quote] I have reported this post as I find it offensive. I also find you offensive Denzuil (only to look at mind).[/quote] thanks Shazza....was it the word 'balls' that did it?
Shazza wrote:
Denzil wrote: Christoff wrote: why have my comments being wiped?...my first one was in support of the Echo's self righteous campaign so no idea why deleted?? My second one had a joke in it but was far less offensive than the comment by Keith. Come on, whoever is reporting my posts, have some balls and say why.
My posts always get deleted and I never say anything wrong. Don't take it personally. ( It wasn't me by the way )
I have reported this post as I find it offensive. I also find you offensive Denzuil (only to look at mind).
thanks Shazza....was it the word 'balls' that did it?
Posted by: Pollyanna, Southampton on 12:53pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Would it not have been better for the Government and Council to listen to citizens warnings that so many bars and extended hours would lead to violence ?
It is so typical to try to clean up the mess created by bad legislation instead of making sensible rules in the first place.
Maybe the next General election results will make the peoples wishes heard ?
Would it not have been better for the Government and Council to listen to citizens warnings that so many bars and extended hours would lead to violence ?
It is so typical to try to clean up the mess created by bad legislation instead of making sensible rules in the first place.
Maybe the next General election results will make the peoples wishes heard ?
Posted by: bunny, hants on 1:15pm Fri 22 Feb 08
I have had to drink out of plastic bottles for a while now and must say it does not taste the same an I feel like a kid with a panda pop! My 'green' side says plasitc is bad but my safety side says glass is bad! Agghhh
I still think the only way to stop viloence is to stop the offenders from drinking too much- which isn't working as they still manage to get drunk enough to start a fight! maybe rationing is the only way (I would HATE THAT BTW) but how else do you get people not to drink too much?
I have had to drink out of plastic bottles for a while now and must say it does not taste the same an I feel like a kid with a panda pop! My 'green' side says plasitc is bad but my safety side says glass is bad! Agghhh
I still think the only way to stop viloence is to stop the offenders from drinking too much- which isn't working as they still manage to get drunk enough to start a fight! maybe rationing is the only way (I would HATE THAT BTW) but how else do you get people not to drink too much?
Posted by: Anon, Romsey on 1:20pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Denzil, you say students can't hold their Stella neither can you and you are much older.
Denzil, you say students can't hold their Stella neither can you and you are much older.
Posted by: The Bar Steward, Southampton on 1:26pm Fri 22 Feb 08
There have been extended hours until 4am in the club/pub I work in for quite some time now, and there has been no increase in trouble (there was never really any in the first place!) There is always the choice of the authorities to close down rough establishments.
There has never been a glassing in all the 14 years I have worked here. It's all down to who you attract and who you let in.
There have been extended hours until 4am in the club/pub I work in for quite some time now, and there has been no increase in trouble (there was never really any in the first place!) There is always the choice of the authorities to close down rough establishments.
There has never been a glassing in all the 14 years I have worked here. It's all down to who you attract and who you let in.
Posted by: Andy, Southampton on 2:06pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Stop Being Soft[/bold] wrote:
Why is the focus not on the cause? Wrap the glasses in cotton wool for all you like, it still won't stop the anti-social behaviour that is become rife day and night. The pubs and clubs operate on the basis of selling alcohol responsibly to responsible people, possibly even having a duty of care to other customers. If the pub /club has trouble, close it for a week, the next time, close it for two, then three until they realise they have a responsibility to only let in and serve responsible people. Furthermore the 'friends' of these tw@ts who take pleasure in maiming others will soon lose respect when each pub slowly shuts its doors to them. What next, plastic knives, because the metal ones are a bit sharp? Take a bl00dy stand against this scum...[/quote] I couldn't agree more. Remember it's the bars and clubs who still profit from customers drinking too much, they either need to be penalised or act more pro-actively to prevent drunken behaviour...
Stop Being Soft wrote:
Why is the focus not on the cause? Wrap the glasses in cotton wool for all you like, it still won't stop the anti-social behaviour that is become rife day and night. The pubs and clubs operate on the basis of selling alcohol responsibly to responsible people, possibly even having a duty of care to other customers. If the pub /club has trouble, close it for a week, the next time, close it for two, then three until they realise they have a responsibility to only let in and serve responsible people. Furthermore the 'friends' of these tw@ts who take pleasure in maiming others will soon lose respect when each pub slowly shuts its doors to them. What next, plastic knives, because the metal ones are a bit sharp? Take a bl00dy stand against this scum...
I couldn't agree more. Remember it's the bars and clubs who still profit from customers drinking too much, they either need to be penalised or act more pro-actively to prevent drunken behaviour...
Posted by: Jon Tee, Newport - IoW on 2:07pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[bold]Stop Being Soft, On My Soap Box wrote:
If the pub /club has trouble, close it for a week, the next time, close it for two, then three until they realise they have a responsibility to only let in and serve responsible people.[/bold] This is a good solution and should be adopted by ALL city centre pubs.
The alternative is to close them down completely and everyone can drink at home.
Not so sociable but safer and cheaper!
JON
Stop Being Soft, On My Soap Box wrote:
If the pub /club has trouble, close it for a week, the next time, close it for two, then three until they realise they have a responsibility to only let in and serve responsible people. This is a good solution and should be adopted by ALL city centre pubs.
The alternative is to close them down completely and everyone can drink at home.
Not so sociable but safer and cheaper!
JON
Posted by: George on 3:01pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
Denzil, you say students can't hold their Stella neither can you and you are much older. [/quote] So how old are students, then?
Anon wrote:
Denzil, you say students can't hold their Stella neither can you and you are much older.
So how old are students, then?
Posted by: George on 3:02pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]The Bar Steward[/bold] wrote:
There have been extended hours until 4am in the club/pub I work in for
quite some time now, and there has been no increase in trouble (there
was never really any in the first place!) There is always the choice of
the authorities to close down rough establishments. There has never
been a glassing in all the 14 years I have worked here. It's all down
to who you attract and who you let in.[/quote] Um, there really isn't such a thing as a rough [italic]establishment[/italic]. It's the people in it that make it rough, and they're hardly going to simply stop being rough because their local's closed down
The Bar Steward wrote:
There have been extended hours until 4am in the club/pub I work in for
quite some time now, and there has been no increase in trouble (there
was never really any in the first place!) There is always the choice of
the authorities to close down rough establishments. There has never
been a glassing in all the 14 years I have worked here. It's all down
to who you attract and who you let in.
Um, there really isn't such a thing as a rough
establishment. It's the people in it that make it rough, and they're hardly going to simply stop being rough because their local's closed down
Posted by: Denzil, Romsey on 3:46pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
Denzil, you say students can't hold their Stella neither can you and you are much older. [/quote] That's because I mix it with Vodka. I can drink more than any student.
Anon wrote:
Denzil, you say students can't hold their Stella neither can you and you are much older.
That's because I mix it with Vodka. I can drink more than any student.
Posted by: Paul R Hopkins, Southampton on 4:02pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Having worked within the leisure sector in excess of 8 years, has anyone considered the health & safety aspect of plastic glasses, which scratch very easily. Within this deep scores there is a breeding ground for bacteria.... leaving rise to the possibilty of leagl action taken against proprietors of business encouraged to use plastic glasses...
Having worked within the leisure sector in excess of 8 years, has anyone considered the health & safety aspect of plastic glasses, which scratch very easily. Within this deep scores there is a breeding ground for bacteria.... leaving rise to the possibilty of leagl action taken against proprietors of business encouraged to use plastic glasses...
Posted by: George on 4:09pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Paul R Hopkins[/bold] wrote:
Having worked within the leisure sector in excess of 8 years, has
anyone considered the health & safety aspect of plastic glasses,
which scratch very easily. Within this deep scores there is a breeding
ground for bacteria.... leaving rise to the possibilty of leagl action
taken against proprietors of business encouraged to use plastic
glasses...[/quote] Good luck proving that one. "Yes, m'lud, I can safely say the flu virus came from a scratched plastic cup from that pub, and nowhere else"
Paul R Hopkins wrote:
Having worked within the leisure sector in excess of 8 years, has
anyone considered the health & safety aspect of plastic glasses,
which scratch very easily. Within this deep scores there is a breeding
ground for bacteria.... leaving rise to the possibilty of leagl action
taken against proprietors of business encouraged to use plastic
glasses...
Good luck proving that one. "Yes, m'lud, I can safely say the flu virus came from a scratched plastic cup from that pub, and nowhere else"
Posted by: Iain, Lordshill on 4:28pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Well, I already can't smoke in the pub, or stand next to a heater outside. And now they're going to make the beer taste rubbish too. Just means that the yobs will bring their weapons with them instead.
Well, I already can't smoke in the pub, or stand next to a heater outside. And now they're going to make the beer taste rubbish too. Just means that the yobs will bring their weapons with them instead.
Posted by: S!mon on 4:38pm Fri 22 Feb 08
I say ban alcohol!!!! lol :0
Everyone should drink... lemonade. Or diet coke.
I say ban alcohol!!!! lol :0
Everyone should drink... lemonade. Or diet coke.
Posted by: Wimp on 4:41pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
Denzil, you say students can't hold their Stella neither can you and you are much older. [/quote] Is this Stella women a bit of a brute then?
Which pub does she go to in Romsey and I'll try and avoid her....
Anon wrote:
Denzil, you say students can't hold their Stella neither can you and you are much older.
Is this Stella women a bit of a brute then?
Which pub does she go to in Romsey and I'll try and avoid her....
Posted by: John, somewhere safe on 5:29pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Have you actually been hit by one of these non breaking plastic cups??? I have and they do break and scar
There is meant to be a law that says you can not serve alcohol to someone who is drunk, I have never seen this law inforced, infact they try and take as much money as they can walking round offering shots!!!
As normal Denzil jumps on the students, I'm not a student but I have freinds at uni. They don't go around stabbing people with glasses, its more the average day yob with a problem.
Have you actually been hit by one of these non breaking plastic cups??? I have and they do break and scar
There is meant to be a law that says you can not serve alcohol to someone who is drunk, I have never seen this law inforced, infact they try and take as much money as they can walking round offering shots!!!
As normal Denzil jumps on the students, I'm not a student but I have freinds at uni. They don't go around stabbing people with glasses, its more the average day yob with a problem.
Posted by: Ashit Matroosers on 5:51pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Wimp[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
Denzil, you say students can't hold their Stella neither can you and
you are much older. [/quote] Is this Stella women a bit of a brute
then?
Which pub does she go to in Romsey and I'll try and avoid her....[/quote] Not a brute, just an overweight epileptic
Wimp wrote:
Anon wrote:
Denzil, you say students can't hold their Stella neither can you and
you are much older.
Is this Stella women a bit of a brute
then?
Which pub does she go to in Romsey and I'll try and avoid her....
Not a brute, just an overweight epileptic
Posted by: Denzil, Romsey on 6:57pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
Have you actually been hit by one of these non breaking plastic cups??? I have and they do break and scar There is meant to be a law that says you can not serve alcohol to someone who is drunk, I have never seen this law inforced, infact they try and take as much money as they can walking round offering shots!!! As normal Denzil jumps on the students, I'm not a student but I have freinds at uni. They don't go around stabbing people with glasses, its more the average day yob with a problem.[/quote] [bold]As normal Denzil jumps on the students[/bold]
What the hell are you on about? My verbal lashings usually go to bus drivers, firemen, old people, women drivers and people from Millbrook. Jog on son.
John wrote:
Have you actually been hit by one of these non breaking plastic cups??? I have and they do break and scar There is meant to be a law that says you can not serve alcohol to someone who is drunk, I have never seen this law inforced, infact they try and take as much money as they can walking round offering shots!!! As normal Denzil jumps on the students, I'm not a student but I have freinds at uni. They don't go around stabbing people with glasses, its more the average day yob with a problem.
As normal Denzil jumps on the students
What the hell are you on about? My verbal lashings usually go to bus drivers, firemen, old people, women drivers and people from Millbrook. Jog on son.
Posted by: LRonHoover, 2000 Miles west of where we dumped your tea on 6:58pm Fri 22 Feb 08
i didn't even know that "glass" could be a verb, until reading the article about the incident the other day. most of our pubs serve draft in cheap, thin plastic "Solo" cups, after 7-8-ish. don't know the solution to bottles though, other than not to serve them.
and what about this animosity towards students? are yours really that bad? we see our fair share of young-person idiocy here, but it seems unfair to paint all of them with the same brush. but hey - my total time in Southie adds to about 72 hours total.
you've got serious crime problems there though - the glassing, that thug-gang & hostage incident, crikey... everyday brings something more shocking. i couldn't take it, i don't know how you do.
i didn't even know that "glass" could be a verb, until reading the article about the incident the other day. most of our pubs serve draft in cheap, thin plastic "Solo" cups, after 7-8-ish. don't know the solution to bottles though, other than not to serve them.
and what about this animosity towards students? are yours really that bad? we see our fair share of young-person idiocy here, but it seems unfair to paint all of them with the same brush. but hey - my total time in Southie adds to about 72 hours total.
you've got serious crime problems there though - the glassing, that thug-gang & hostage incident, crikey... everyday brings something more shocking. i couldn't take it, i don't know how you do.
Posted by: Christoff on 7:00pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
Have you actually been hit by one of these non breaking plastic cups??? I have and they do break and scar There is meant to be a law that says you can not serve alcohol to someone who is drunk, I have never seen this law inforced, infact they try and take as much money as they can walking round offering shots!!! As normal Denzil jumps on the students, I'm not a student but I have freinds at uni. They don't go around stabbing people with glasses, its more the average day yob with a problem.[/quote] surely they should use the flimsy plastic cups which will just crinkle under too much pressure? I agree that those hard unbreakable ones will hurt and do damage.
The trouble with the flimsy ones is that they are hard to carry without spilling (if holding more than one).....you can imagine the amount of 'you just spilt my pint' fights that will occur!
It seems there is no solution to this problem.
The Echo can add it to their list of 'campaigns'.
Has anyone noticed how they don't actually campaign much when they bring these ideas out? They simply print a story, if it involves something violent they wack a logo on it and claim a campaign. Very amusing. Will probably get deleted now. Oh well.
John wrote:
Have you actually been hit by one of these non breaking plastic cups??? I have and they do break and scar There is meant to be a law that says you can not serve alcohol to someone who is drunk, I have never seen this law inforced, infact they try and take as much money as they can walking round offering shots!!! As normal Denzil jumps on the students, I'm not a student but I have freinds at uni. They don't go around stabbing people with glasses, its more the average day yob with a problem.
surely they should use the flimsy plastic cups which will just crinkle under too much pressure? I agree that those hard unbreakable ones will hurt and do damage.
The trouble with the flimsy ones is that they are hard to carry without spilling (if holding more than one).....you can imagine the amount of 'you just spilt my pint' fights that will occur!
It seems there is no solution to this problem.
The Echo can add it to their list of 'campaigns'.
Has anyone noticed how they don't actually campaign much when they bring these ideas out? They simply print a story, if it involves something violent they wack a logo on it and claim a campaign. Very amusing. Will probably get deleted now. Oh well.
Posted by: Normski on 7:16pm Fri 22 Feb 08
I wish they would delete more of your posts Christoff, as along with Adrian Smith, you are one of the most inane, sanctimonious people I have ever come across.
I wish they would delete more of your posts Christoff, as along with Adrian Smith, you are one of the most inane, sanctimonious people I have ever come across.
Posted by: George on 7:45pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Normski[/bold] wrote:
I wish they would delete more of your posts Christoff, as along with Adrian Smith, you are one of the most inane, sanctimonious people I have ever come across.[/quote] You're a disgrace. What on earth are you doing coming across either of those two. Use a paper towel, like everyone else
Normski wrote:
I wish they would delete more of your posts Christoff, as along with Adrian Smith, you are one of the most inane, sanctimonious people I have ever come across.
You're a disgrace. What on earth are you doing coming across either of those two. Use a paper towel, like everyone else
Posted by: George on 7:48pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]LRonHoover[/bold] wrote:
i didn't even know that "glass" could be a verb, until reading the article about the incident the other day. most of our pubs serve draft in cheap, thin plastic "Solo" cups, after 7-8-ish. don't know the solution to bottles though, other than not to serve them.
and what about this animosity towards students? are yours really that bad? we see our fair share of young-person idiocy here, but it seems unfair to paint all of them with the same brush. but hey - my total time in Southie adds to about 72 hours total.
you've got serious crime problems there though - the glassing, that thug-gang & hostage incident, crikey... everyday brings something more shocking. i couldn't take it, i don't know how you do.[/quote] Not a Chelsea FC fan, then? Their football hooligans are so posh, they wear [bold]Mr[/bold] Martens, and they're so rich they can't even be bothered to glass people themselves, they have a machine to do it for them. That's why they're sponsored by Autoglass
LRonHoover wrote:
i didn't even know that "glass" could be a verb, until reading the article about the incident the other day. most of our pubs serve draft in cheap, thin plastic "Solo" cups, after 7-8-ish. don't know the solution to bottles though, other than not to serve them.
and what about this animosity towards students? are yours really that bad? we see our fair share of young-person idiocy here, but it seems unfair to paint all of them with the same brush. but hey - my total time in Southie adds to about 72 hours total.
you've got serious crime problems there though - the glassing, that thug-gang & hostage incident, crikey... everyday brings something more shocking. i couldn't take it, i don't know how you do.
Not a Chelsea FC fan, then? Their football hooligans are so posh, they wear
Mr Martens, and they're so rich they can't even be bothered to glass people themselves, they have a machine to do it for them. That's why they're sponsored by Autoglass
Posted by: clever lad, southampton on 7:52pm Fri 22 Feb 08
all pubs and clubs need is a swipe card to gain entry,three strikes and you are out,sorted,out from everywhere.[bold]bold[/bold]
all pubs and clubs need is a swipe card to gain entry,three strikes and you are out,sorted,out from everywhere.
Posted by: Denzil, Romsey on 8:14pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]clever lad[/bold] wrote:
all pubs and clubs need is a swipe card to gain entry,three strikes and you are out,sorted,out from everywhere.[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] Where's the fun in that? I regularly get thrown out of bars all across Southampton and Romsey but I never go around glassing people, not like these leightweight students.
clever lad wrote:
all pubs and clubs need is a swipe card to gain entry,three strikes and you are out,sorted,out from everywhere.
Where's the fun in that? I regularly get thrown out of bars all across Southampton and Romsey but I never go around glassing people, not like these leightweight students.
Posted by: Gregg, St. Mary's on 10:38pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Denzil ur comments are starting to hack me off, why are you blsming the students for trouble? I'm a student and have been to many students nights and only ever seen/encounted any trouble 5 or 6 times, none of which have been glassings. But i've been out twice to normal weekend nights out in the city and all I saw was trouble, one a glassing, then I've heard theres been a bad glassing at a student club recently, and it was not commited by a student but a local of southampton, so how is this the students fault?? And claiming you can out drink any student and saying you get thrown out of pubs.clubs regularly makes you really big and cool, I wish I was you.
Denzil ur comments are starting to hack me off, why are you blsming the students for trouble? I'm a student and have been to many students nights and only ever seen/encounted any trouble 5 or 6 times, none of which have been glassings. But i've been out twice to normal weekend nights out in the city and all I saw was trouble, one a glassing, then I've heard theres been a bad glassing at a student club recently, and it was not commited by a student but a local of southampton, so how is this the students fault?? And claiming you can out drink any student and saying you get thrown out of pubs.clubs regularly makes you really big and cool, I wish I was you.
Posted by: Paddy B on 12:15am Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Gregg[/bold] wrote:
Denzil ur comments are starting to hack me off, why are you blsming the students for trouble? I'm a student and have been to many students nights and only ever seen/encounted any trouble 5 or 6 times, none of which have been glassings. But i've been out twice to normal weekend nights out in the city and all I saw was trouble, one a glassing, then I've heard theres been a bad glassing at a student club recently, and it was not commited by a student but a local of southampton, so how is this the students fault?? And claiming you can out drink any student and saying you get thrown out of pubs.clubs regularly makes you really big and cool, I wish I was you.[/quote]
Gregg, Denzil obviously can't get his head around the fact that all people are different and also the fact that it's impossible to generalise someone's behaviour just because they are a student.
No matter what you say to people like Denzil, they just are incapable of grasping this concept. So my answer to you Gregg is just to ignore.....
Especially if he finds it funny or 'hard' that he 'thinks' that he can drink students under the table. Again a very big presumption, he's obviously not very clever.
Gregg good luck for your future plans at least your doing something with your life unlike our fellow Denzil who it unfortunately seems that he has no hope.
Gregg wrote:
Denzil ur comments are starting to hack me off, why are you blsming the students for trouble? I'm a student and have been to many students nights and only ever seen/encounted any trouble 5 or 6 times, none of which have been glassings. But i've been out twice to normal weekend nights out in the city and all I saw was trouble, one a glassing, then I've heard theres been a bad glassing at a student club recently, and it was not commited by a student but a local of southampton, so how is this the students fault?? And claiming you can out drink any student and saying you get thrown out of pubs.clubs regularly makes you really big and cool, I wish I was you.
Gregg, Denzil obviously can't get his head around the fact that all people are different and also the fact that it's impossible to generalise someone's behaviour just because they are a student.
No matter what you say to people like Denzil, they just are incapable of grasping this concept. So my answer to you Gregg is just to ignore.....
Especially if he finds it funny or 'hard' that he 'thinks' that he can drink students under the table. Again a very big presumption, he's obviously not very clever.
Gregg good luck for your future plans at least your doing something with your life unlike our fellow Denzil who it unfortunately seems that he has no hope.
Posted by: paul b on 3:30am Sat 23 Feb 08
i think that the drinks should be served in metal casks. it keeps the drinks colder for longer plus if you had wooden ones you 'wood' get splinters 'wood' 'would' get it?! ha ha
anyway glass is very dangerous especially as it gives you seven years bad luck if you do break one. I usually drink out of a trough so don't matter to me.
i think that the drinks should be served in metal casks. it keeps the drinks colder for longer plus if you had wooden ones you 'wood' get splinters 'wood' 'would' get it?! ha ha
anyway glass is very dangerous especially as it gives you seven years bad luck if you do break one. I usually drink out of a trough so don't matter to me.
Posted by: paul b on 8:05am Sat 23 Feb 08
I dig hung dudes
Posted by: Denzil, Romsey on 12:19pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Paddy B[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Gregg[/bold] wrote: Denzil ur comments are starting to hack me off, why are you blsming the students for trouble? I'm a student and have been to many students nights and only ever seen/encounted any trouble 5 or 6 times, none of which have been glassings. But i've been out twice to normal weekend nights out in the city and all I saw was trouble, one a glassing, then I've heard theres been a bad glassing at a student club recently, and it was not commited by a student but a local of southampton, so how is this the students fault?? And claiming you can out drink any student and saying you get thrown out of pubs.clubs regularly makes you really big and cool, I wish I was you.[/quote] Gregg, Denzil obviously can't get his head around the fact that all people are different and also the fact that it's impossible to generalise someone's behaviour just because they are a student. No matter what you say to people like Denzil, they just are incapable of grasping this concept. So my answer to you Gregg is just to ignore..... Especially if he finds it funny or 'hard' that he 'thinks' that he can drink students under the table. Again a very big presumption, he's obviously not very clever. Gregg good luck for your future plans at least your doing something with your life unlike our fellow Denzil who it unfortunately seems that he has no hope. [/quote] At the end of the day your name is Paddy. Your opinion means nothing and I can drink more Stella than you.
Paddy B wrote:
Gregg wrote: Denzil ur comments are starting to hack me off, why are you blsming the students for trouble? I'm a student and have been to many students nights and only ever seen/encounted any trouble 5 or 6 times, none of which have been glassings. But i've been out twice to normal weekend nights out in the city and all I saw was trouble, one a glassing, then I've heard theres been a bad glassing at a student club recently, and it was not commited by a student but a local of southampton, so how is this the students fault?? And claiming you can out drink any student and saying you get thrown out of pubs.clubs regularly makes you really big and cool, I wish I was you.
Gregg, Denzil obviously can't get his head around the fact that all people are different and also the fact that it's impossible to generalise someone's behaviour just because they are a student. No matter what you say to people like Denzil, they just are incapable of grasping this concept. So my answer to you Gregg is just to ignore..... Especially if he finds it funny or 'hard' that he 'thinks' that he can drink students under the table. Again a very big presumption, he's obviously not very clever. Gregg good luck for your future plans at least your doing something with your life unlike our fellow Denzil who it unfortunately seems that he has no hope.
At the end of the day your name is Paddy. Your opinion means nothing and I can drink more Stella than you.
Posted by: George on 12:29pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Denzil[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Paddy B[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Gregg[/bold] wrote: Denzil ur comments are starting to
hack me off, why are you blsming the students for trouble? I'm a
student and have been to many students nights and only ever
seen/encounted any trouble 5 or 6 times, none of which have been
glassings. But i've been out twice to normal weekend nights out in the
city and all I saw was trouble, one a glassing, then I've heard theres
been a bad glassing at a student club recently, and it was not commited
by a student but a local of southampton, so how is this the students
fault?? And claiming you can out drink any student and saying you get
thrown out of pubs.clubs regularly makes you really big and cool, I
wish I was you.[/quote] Gregg, Denzil obviously can't get his head
around the fact that all people are different and also the fact that
it's impossible to generalise someone's behaviour just because they are
a student. No matter what you say to people like Denzil, they just are
incapable of grasping this concept. So my answer to you Gregg is just
to ignore..... Especially if he finds it funny or 'hard' that he
'thinks' that he can drink students under the table. Again a very big
presumption, he's obviously not very clever. Gregg good luck for your
future plans at least your doing something with your life unlike our
fellow Denzil who it unfortunately seems that he has no hope. [/quote]
At the end of the day your name is Paddy. Your opinion means nothing
and I can drink more Stella than you.[/quote] There's a difference between being able to [italic]drink[/italic] more than someone else, and being able to [italic]actually handle[/italic] it. Standing outside the ladies toilets, covered in your own puke, and going "look, right, it's my birthday, yeh" semi-coherently to everyone that comes out doesn't qualify
Denzil wrote:
Paddy B wrote:
Gregg wrote: Denzil ur comments are starting to
hack me off, why are you blsming the students for trouble? I'm a
student and have been to many students nights and only ever
seen/encounted any trouble 5 or 6 times, none of which have been
glassings. But i've been out twice to normal weekend nights out in the
city and all I saw was trouble, one a glassing, then I've heard theres
been a bad glassing at a student club recently, and it was not commited
by a student but a local of southampton, so how is this the students
fault?? And claiming you can out drink any student and saying you get
thrown out of pubs.clubs regularly makes you really big and cool, I
wish I was you.
Gregg, Denzil obviously can't get his head
around the fact that all people are different and also the fact that
it's impossible to generalise someone's behaviour just because they are
a student. No matter what you say to people like Denzil, they just are
incapable of grasping this concept. So my answer to you Gregg is just
to ignore..... Especially if he finds it funny or 'hard' that he
'thinks' that he can drink students under the table. Again a very big
presumption, he's obviously not very clever. Gregg good luck for your
future plans at least your doing something with your life unlike our
fellow Denzil who it unfortunately seems that he has no hope.
At the end of the day your name is Paddy. Your opinion means nothing
and I can drink more Stella than you.
There's a difference between being able to
drink more than someone else, and being able to
actually handle it. Standing outside the ladies toilets, covered in your own puke, and going "look, right, it's my birthday, yeh" semi-coherently to everyone that comes out doesn't qualify
Posted by: denzil is a bender, anywhere but romsey on 7:17pm Sat 23 Feb 08
Dont worry ladies and gents denzil is clearly an unemployed bum and clearly has nothing better to do but sit around posting pea brained comments all day long - whilst waiting for his benifits cheque to arrive so he can then go blow it in the pub/bookies whilst talking insesent rubbish about how much he hasnt done in his 50+ years of life due to being a victim of circumstance. Most of us were students once and i had an amazing time - just a shame you didnt get the grades to get in hey denz me old mucker?!?
Dont worry ladies and gents denzil is clearly an unemployed bum and clearly has nothing better to do but sit around posting pea brained comments all day long - whilst waiting for his benifits cheque to arrive so he can then go blow it in the pub/bookies whilst talking insesent rubbish about how much he hasnt done in his 50+ years of life due to being a victim of circumstance. Most of us were students once and i had an amazing time - just a shame you didnt get the grades to get in hey denz me old mucker?!?
Posted by: Denzil, Romsey on 8:00pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]denzil is a bender[/bold] wrote:
Dont worry ladies and gents denzil is clearly an unemployed bum and clearly has nothing better to do but sit around posting pea brained comments all day long - whilst waiting for his benifits cheque to arrive so he can then go blow it in the pub/bookies whilst talking insesent rubbish about how much he hasnt done in his 50+ years of life due to being a victim of circumstance. Most of us were students once and i had an amazing time - just a shame you didnt get the grades to get in hey denz me old mucker?!? [/quote] At least spell my name with a capital letter you dozy plank. If people like you are our future doctors etc then we should be worried.
denzil is a bender wrote:
Dont worry ladies and gents denzil is clearly an unemployed bum and clearly has nothing better to do but sit around posting pea brained comments all day long - whilst waiting for his benifits cheque to arrive so he can then go blow it in the pub/bookies whilst talking insesent rubbish about how much he hasnt done in his 50+ years of life due to being a victim of circumstance. Most of us were students once and i had an amazing time - just a shame you didnt get the grades to get in hey denz me old mucker?!?
At least spell my name with a capital letter you dozy plank. If people like you are our future doctors etc then we should be worried.
Posted by: a.m. taylor, vancouver b.c. on 4:40pm Sun 2 Mar 08
Good heavens! NO smoking and now NO glasses in Pubs, what's poor old England coming too ? so why have Pubs at all? stay at home is the best advice.
Good heavens! NO smoking and now NO glasses in Pubs, what's poor old England coming too ? so why have Pubs at all? stay at home is the best advice.
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