Last Orders for Glass
The Daily Echo campaign, supported by the police, is to encourage late-night bars and clubs in Hampshire to switch from glass to plastic.
Calls to replace glass with plastic in pubs
IT is a fast-growing
crime - with sickening
consequences.
Using a glass or a bottle as a
weapon can cause devastating
injuries that can scar the victim
for life.
That is why the Daily Echo has
launched its Last Orders For
Glass campaign. We are our
calling for late-night bars and
clubs to serve all drinks in plastic
instead of the traditional
pint, half-pint and wine glasses.
In Southampton city centre,
fewer than one in ten nightspots
currently use the virtually
unbreakable polycarbonate containers,
which are durable and
can be used hundreds of times
over.
Today the man in charge of
making sure Southampton's
bars and clubs stick to
the law today has
backed the campaign.
Licensing Sergeant
Stewart Chandler said
he would like to see
more of the city centre's
hundred venues
serve drinks including
pints, wines and spirits
in polycarbonate containers.
He said: "We are
happy to back the
Daily Echo campaign.
We would
support anything
that promotes people's
safety in the city
centre."
With glassing attacks
also involving bottles
being struck across the
face Sgt Chandler recommends
pubs and clubs
use plastic alternatives
wherever possible.
"If a venue is making a
conscious decision to go
polycarbonate then
they should decant
drinks from glass bottles
to polycarbonate
containers."
He added: "The
quality of the polycarbonate
containers is getting better all
the time. They are substantial
products that do not twist or
bend easily.
"Some venues have actually
found the polycarbonate option
to be cheaper in the long term
because the containers actually
last longer than glass."
The campaign has also been
backed by health chiefs.
Southampton General
Hospital's accident and emergency
department treats about
250 glassing victims a year with
many left permanently scarred.
9:44am Saturday 23rd February 2008
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CommentPosted by: Sarah-Jane Pick, Woolston on 10:23am Sat 23 Feb 08
Sounds good, but what abot the mess, when and they will, throw the plastic cups on the floor...Southampton is a dirty city as it is...who will be responsible for tidying up!!!!
Sounds good, but what abot the mess, when and they will, throw the plastic cups on the floor...Southampton is a dirty city as it is...who will be responsible for tidying up!!!!
Posted by: Think about it on 10:31am Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Sarah-Jane Pick[/bold] wrote:
Sounds good, but what abot the mess, when and they will, throw the plastic cups on the floor...Southampton is a dirty city as it is...who will be responsible for tidying up!!!![/quote] Would you rather clean up plastic glasses or blood?
Sarah-Jane Pick wrote:
Sounds good, but what abot the mess, when and they will, throw the plastic cups on the floor...Southampton is a dirty city as it is...who will be responsible for tidying up!!!!
Would you rather clean up plastic glasses or blood?
Posted by: Pollyanna, Southampton on 10:48am Sat 23 Feb 08
Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.?
The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as
venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch".
The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else !
Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.?
The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as
venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch".
The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else !
Posted by: Ciaran on 11:14am Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Pollyanna[/bold] wrote:
Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else ![/quote] 100? I'm sure you'll find there are far more than 100 pubs in Southampton. Even so, Southampton probably has less pubs per head of population compared to somewhere like Bournemouth, Portsmouth or Brighton.
Pollyanna wrote:
Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else !
100? I'm sure you'll find there are far more than 100 pubs in Southampton. Even so, Southampton probably has less pubs per head of population compared to somewhere like Bournemouth, Portsmouth or Brighton.
Posted by: Old Git, Southampton on 11:23am Sat 23 Feb 08
This is ridiculous! The reactionaries have gone mad. I enjoy a pint, in a glass; plastic is no substitute. GBH is a serious crime and those who commit it should be locked up. That’s the short of it. These thugs (who are actually a pathetic minority) would simply use something else to cause harm. Let’s take it to its ridiculous conclusion: calls to replace sticks and stones with something ‘safer’. Would it solve the problem? Be careful what you think with!
This is ridiculous! The reactionaries have gone mad. I enjoy a pint, in a glass; plastic is no substitute. GBH is a serious crime and those who commit it should be locked up. That’s the short of it. These thugs (who are actually a pathetic minority) would simply use something else to cause harm. Let’s take it to its ridiculous conclusion: calls to replace sticks and stones with something ‘safer’. Would it solve the problem? Be careful what you think with!
Posted by: Adrian Smith on 11:40am Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Ciaran[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pollyanna[/bold] wrote: Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else ![/quote] 100? I'm sure you'll find there are far more than 100 pubs in Southampton. Even so, Southampton probably has less pubs per head of population compared to somewhere like Bournemouth, Portsmouth or Brighton.[/quote] Pollyanna was quoting the figure of 100 from the article. Are there really more than 100 venues in the City Centre?
Ciaran wrote:
Pollyanna wrote: Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else !
100? I'm sure you'll find there are far more than 100 pubs in Southampton. Even so, Southampton probably has less pubs per head of population compared to somewhere like Bournemouth, Portsmouth or Brighton.
Pollyanna was quoting the figure of 100 from the article. Are there really more than 100 venues in the City Centre?
Posted by: Hants, Ocean Village on 11:51am Sat 23 Feb 08
Why not just enforce plastic glasses at pubs which are known for trouble. ie. The townie pubs like Yates etc. The management decide what type of clientelle they want, if they want rough trash then make them serve in plastic glasses, if they choose to encourage the more sophisticated customer, then a glass is more suited.
I ran pubs for many years, and it is the Landlord/Mamager who determines wether the pub is rough or not. When I ran a pub, we allowed no football shirts, no work clothes etc and I can honestly say I never had one fight.
Better management is what is needed not plastic glasses?
Why not just enforce plastic glasses at pubs which are known for trouble. ie. The townie pubs like Yates etc. The management decide what type of clientelle they want, if they want rough trash then make them serve in plastic glasses, if they choose to encourage the more sophisticated customer, then a glass is more suited.
I ran pubs for many years, and it is the Landlord/Mamager who determines wether the pub is rough or not. When I ran a pub, we allowed no football shirts, no work clothes etc and I can honestly say I never had one fight.
Better management is what is needed not plastic glasses?
Posted by: Denzil, Romsey on 11:59am Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Pollyanna[/bold] wrote:
Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else ![/quote] You stupid bint. Just because students have ruined our city why should everyone else suffer? I think the university should be bulldozed and pubs should stop edmiting people with dodgey curly hair and crap clothes.
Pollyanna wrote:
Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else !
You stupid bint. Just because students have ruined our city why should everyone else suffer? I think the university should be bulldozed and pubs should stop edmiting people with dodgey curly hair and crap clothes.
Posted by: Ciaran on 12:04pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Adrian Smith[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ciaran[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Pollyanna[/bold] wrote: Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a \"soft touch\". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else ![/quote] 100? I\'m sure you\'ll find there are far more than 100 pubs in Southampton. Even so, Southampton probably has less pubs per head of population compared to somewhere like Bournemouth, Portsmouth or Brighton.[/quote] Pollyanna was quoting the figure of 100 from the article. Are there really more than 100 venues in the City Centre?[/quote] Well she said Southampton, which I took to mean the city as a whole. I'd imagine there would be about 100 in the city centre, but the fact remains that's no more than you'd find in similar areas of similarly sized cities.
Take Southsea for example (not including Gunwharf and Portsmouth City Centre) and you'll see exaclty what I mean.
The only place Southampton is known as a student drinking hole is in Southampton.
Adrian Smith wrote:
Ciaran wrote: Pollyanna wrote: Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a \"soft touch\". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else !
100? I\'m sure you\'ll find there are far more than 100 pubs in Southampton. Even so, Southampton probably has less pubs per head of population compared to somewhere like Bournemouth, Portsmouth or Brighton.
Pollyanna was quoting the figure of 100 from the article. Are there really more than 100 venues in the City Centre?
Well she said Southampton, which I took to mean the city as a whole. I'd imagine there would be about 100 in the city centre, but the fact remains that's no more than you'd find in similar areas of similarly sized cities.
Take Southsea for example (not including Gunwharf and Portsmouth City Centre) and you'll see exaclty what I mean.
The only place Southampton is known as a student drinking hole is in Southampton.
Posted by: paul b on 3:35pm Sat 23 Feb 08
This is the same story as the other day
This is the same story as the other day
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 3:41pm Sat 23 Feb 08
Once again the silent majority will be penalised by the scummy minority chavs.
Poster above makes the sensible point that each pub/club should have plastic glasses if their clientele mirrors it.
Most pubs are just nice little watering holes and why should millions of drinkers have to put up with the plastic invasion?
High st boozers such as Yates, Wetherspoons and their clones need sorting out.
Rule of thumb - if a venue has the need for bouncers, then it follows that they are needed to keep an eye on the potential troublemakers?
Once again the silent majority will be penalised by the scummy minority chavs.
Poster above makes the sensible point that each pub/club should have plastic glasses if their clientele mirrors it.
Most pubs are just nice little watering holes and why should millions of drinkers have to put up with the plastic invasion?
High st boozers such as Yates, Wetherspoons and their clones need sorting out.
Rule of thumb - if a venue has the need for bouncers, then it follows that they are needed to keep an eye on the potential troublemakers?
Posted by: Lee Whitbread, Labour Candidate for Bassett on 7:04pm Sat 23 Feb 08
Bars and clubs which have had incidents of glass-related injuries should have the use of plastic glasses made a condition of their licence. This is something which I strongly support.
Bars and clubs which have had incidents of glass-related injuries should have the use of plastic glasses made a condition of their licence. This is something which I strongly support.
Posted by: Adrian Smith on 7:27pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]paul b[/bold] wrote:
This is the same story as the other day[/quote] No it's not. Click the bit on the left where it says "Last Orders" or something and you can read yesterday's story.
It's not that difficult.
paul b wrote:
This is the same story as the other day
No it's not. Click the bit on the left where it says "Last Orders" or something and you can read yesterday's story.
It's not that difficult.
Posted by: Ian, Bitterne park on 7:49pm Sat 23 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Denzil[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pollyanna[/bold] wrote: Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else ![/quote] You stupid bint. Just because students have ruined our city why should everyone else suffer? I think the university should be bulldozed and pubs should stop edmiting people with dodgey curly hair and crap clothes.[/quote] Oops!!
Dodgy curly hair and crap clothes. That counts you out then Denzil.
Denzil wrote:
Pollyanna wrote: Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else !
You stupid bint. Just because students have ruined our city why should everyone else suffer? I think the university should be bulldozed and pubs should stop edmiting people with dodgey curly hair and crap clothes.
Oops!!
Dodgy curly hair and crap clothes. That counts you out then Denzil.
Posted by: anna, southampton on 11:56pm Sat 23 Feb 08
For once Denzil is sooooooooooooooooooo
oooo Right
For once Denzil is sooooooooooooooooooo
oooo Right
Posted by: saint h, southampton on 12:21am Sun 24 Feb 08
Why does Denzil of Romsey talk about ruining OUR city of Southampton? The last time I looked in a map Romsey wasn't in Southampton.
Why does Denzil of Romsey talk about ruining OUR city of Southampton? The last time I looked in a map Romsey wasn't in Southampton.
Posted by: Denzil hater fan club, the photo and dartboard on 1:23am Sun 24 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Denzil[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pollyanna[/bold] wrote: Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else ![/quote] You stupid bint. Just because students have ruined our city why should everyone else suffer? I think the university should be bulldozed and pubs should stop edmiting people with dodgey curly hair and crap clothes.[/quote] Denzil can you not write something without the childish name calling all the time. We know people have different opinions but it doesn't mean you have the right to abuse them just because you don't agree with them.
You must be one sad person if you can't think of anything nice to say to people.
Go away and stop patrolling this site.
Denzil wrote:
Pollyanna wrote: Would it be possible for the Police to object to further licences for drink venues now it is publicly stated that we have more than 100 in Southampton.? The Government rules conveniently prevent residents from objecting to new licences so the situation is only going to get worse as venue operators see Southampton as a "soft touch". The city is well known as a student drinking hole, in fact it is known for nothing else !
You stupid bint. Just because students have ruined our city why should everyone else suffer? I think the university should be bulldozed and pubs should stop edmiting people with dodgey curly hair and crap clothes.
Denzil can you not write something without the childish name calling all the time. We know people have different opinions but it doesn't mean you have the right to abuse them just because you don't agree with them.
You must be one sad person if you can't think of anything nice to say to people.
Go away and stop patrolling this site.
Posted by: dreary isle, USA on 12:08pm Sun 24 Feb 08
Well..if you brits didn't spend so much time in the ******g pub maybe you wouldn't get glassed. What kind of society (?) is Britain now !?!
No wonder its full of Russian criminals and suicidal Islamo fascists.
Well..if you brits didn't spend so much time in the ******g pub maybe you wouldn't get glassed. What kind of society (?) is Britain now !?!
No wonder its full of Russian criminals and suicidal Islamo fascists.
Posted by: Old Git, Southampton on 2:53pm Sun 24 Feb 08
Well, if you yankers didn't spend so much time in the Middle East, you wouldn't be getting your arses kicked so bad. FOAD! PS How's your economy doing? Ha! Ha-ha!
Well, if you yankers didn't spend so much time in the Middle East, you wouldn't be getting your arses kicked so bad. FOAD! PS How's your economy doing? Ha! Ha-ha!
Posted by: Denzil, Romsey on 4:12pm Sun 24 Feb 08
[quote][bold]dreary isle[/bold] wrote:
Well..if you brits didn't spend so much time in the ******g pub maybe you wouldn't get glassed. What kind of society (?) is Britain now !?! No wonder its full of Russian criminals and suicidal Islamo fascists. [/quote] How's your world trade centre coming along?
dreary isle wrote:
Well..if you brits didn't spend so much time in the ******g pub maybe you wouldn't get glassed. What kind of society (?) is Britain now !?! No wonder its full of Russian criminals and suicidal Islamo fascists.
How's your world trade centre coming along?
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 12:02am Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Denzil[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]dreary isle[/bold] wrote: Well..if you brits didn't spend so much time in the ******g pub maybe you wouldn't get glassed. What kind of society (?) is Britain now !?! No wonder its full of Russian criminals and suicidal Islamo fascists. [/quote] How's your world trade centre coming along?[/quote] It's known as Ground Zero.
Referring to Denzil's i.q.
Denzil wrote:
dreary isle wrote: Well..if you brits didn't spend so much time in the ******g pub maybe you wouldn't get glassed. What kind of society (?) is Britain now !?! No wonder its full of Russian criminals and suicidal Islamo fascists.
How's your world trade centre coming along?
It's known as Ground Zero.
Referring to Denzil's i.q.
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 12:06am Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote][bold]dreary isle[/bold] wrote:
Well..if you brits didn't spend so much time in the ******g pub maybe you wouldn't get glassed. What kind of society (?) is Britain now !?! No wonder its full of Russian criminals and suicidal Islamo fascists. [/quote] UK does have Islam nutters, thanks to you dumb Yanks voting in a Texas redneck who has got the USA and UK in a right mess!
Our economy is suffering as we pump out billions of pounds into our shared Vietnam.
What about YOUR immigration problems?
You'll all be speaking Spanish in ten years.
At least we dont get too many teenage campus killers over here.
dreary isle wrote:
Well..if you brits didn't spend so much time in the ******g pub maybe you wouldn't get glassed. What kind of society (?) is Britain now !?! No wonder its full of Russian criminals and suicidal Islamo fascists.
UK does have Islam nutters, thanks to you dumb Yanks voting in a Texas redneck who has got the USA and UK in a right mess!
Our economy is suffering as we pump out billions of pounds into our shared Vietnam.
What about YOUR immigration problems?
You'll all be speaking Spanish in ten years.
At least we dont get too many teenage campus killers over here.
Posted by: Denzil, work on 7:59am Mon 25 Feb 08
[quote][bold]King Mush[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Denzil[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]dreary isle[/bold] wrote: Well..if you brits didn't spend so much time in the ******g pub maybe you wouldn't get glassed. What kind of society (?) is Britain now !?! No wonder its full of Russian criminals and suicidal Islamo fascists. [/quote] How's your world trade centre coming along?[/quote] It's known as Ground Zero. Referring to Denzil's i.q.[/quote] I know what it's called dicksplash. Oh yeah, it's I.Q you stupid tosser.
King Mush wrote:
Denzil wrote: dreary isle wrote: Well..if you brits didn't spend so much time in the ******g pub maybe you wouldn't get glassed. What kind of society (?) is Britain now !?! No wonder its full of Russian criminals and suicidal Islamo fascists.
How's your world trade centre coming along?
It's known as Ground Zero. Referring to Denzil's i.q.
I know what it's called dicksplash. Oh yeah, it's I.Q you stupid tosser.
Posted by: The Pub Guide, The pub on 10:21am Mon 25 Feb 08
Speaking as an expert on pubs in Southampton (and there aren't any I have not tested), I can confirm there are just under 100 pubs alone within the city centre (including the Bedford Place and St Marys area). If you include night clubs, hotels, restaurants etc (which I don't) that also have a bar in, there must be well over 100. Just out of interest btw, last year, there were 186 pubs in the city as a whole but this figure does not include such premises as nightclubs, hotels, restaurants etc.
Revised stats for 2008 will be compiled shortly.
Speaking as an expert on pubs in Southampton (and there aren't any I have not tested), I can confirm there are just under 100 pubs alone within the city centre (including the Bedford Place and St Marys area). If you include night clubs, hotels, restaurants etc (which I don't) that also have a bar in, there must be well over 100. Just out of interest btw, last year, there were 186 pubs in the city as a whole but this figure does not include such premises as nightclubs, hotels, restaurants etc.
Revised stats for 2008 will be compiled shortly.
Posted by: Denzil= Unemployed waste of space! on 12:42pm Fri 4 Apr 08
Good come back there Denzil - hope you didn't miss too much day time TV trying to think of it.
Good come back there Denzil - hope you didn't miss too much day time TV trying to think of it.
Posted by: j bucci, southampton on 12:40pm Wed 30 Apr 08
what a load of b*****ks
everyone who drinks in pubs knows that a pint just doesn't taste right from a plastic cup what they need to do is bring in a massive fine for people involved in drinking violence if you made the fines [bold]£5000 minimum[/bold] them people would thik twice before hitting someone with a glass
what a load of b*****ks
everyone who drinks in pubs knows that a pint just doesn't taste right from a plastic cup what they need to do is bring in a massive fine for people involved in drinking violence if you made the fines
£5000 minimum them people would thik twice before hitting someone with a glass
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