Saints fans will get their first proper glimpse of Jan Poortvliet's new look Saints for the forthcoming Championship season when they take on West Ham at St Mary's tonight.
Head coach Poortvliet has said he will treat the game as if it were next weekend's opener at Cardiff, fielding his first team and only making substitutions to effect the game rather than for fitness.
Poortvliet is hoping to see the same resolute steel his team have shown in defence so far this season - but wants an extra cutting edge in attack.
In the three recognised first team pre-season friendlies against Celtic, Cheltenham and Hereford, Saints have scored just once - in the 1-1 draw at Cheltenham - through Bradley Wright-Phillips.
Poortvliet thinks that will change when the forward players start to believe in themselves.
And he is optimistic that can happen against Premiership opposition tonight.
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He said: "We will go out to make a big game and we shall see.
"When we make a substitution it will be to try and make the team better.
"Until now we have had to have everyone play because I have to see everyone.
"This game we will treat like a Championship game. Whatever the game needs, we will bring people on.
"A lot of people need the 90 minutes, they are well prepared and have had some good games - now have to go out for as long as possible.
Posted by: sean, woolston southampton on 7:45am Fri 1 Aug 08
SO FAR I LIKE WHAT I SEE AND HEAR FROM PORTVILET.I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE COMING SEASON. I THINK WITH A BIT OF TIME,PATIENCE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERBODY WE WILL BE ALRIGHT
COME ON YOU SAINTS
SO FAR I LIKE WHAT I SEE AND HEAR FROM PORTVILET.I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE COMING SEASON. I THINK WITH A BIT OF TIME,PATIENCE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERBODY WE WILL BE ALRIGHT
COME ON YOU SAINTS
Posted by: saint stephen, legend on 8:16am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]sean[/bold] wrote:
SO FAR I LIKE WHAT I SEE AND HEAR FROM PORTVILET.I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE COMING SEASON. I THINK WITH A BIT OF TIME,PATIENCE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERBODY WE WILL BE ALRIGHT COME ON YOU SAINTS [/quote] Fans will not be at the game, another poor turn out my guess about 12500. This is NOT AT THE TEAM but at Lowe, he will not get any more of my money. Do not have a go at me as thousands of true fans feel the same I am NOT the only one that wont be their. Lowe out and I sure thousands will return. He has split our fan base and Ime sure he wont even understand WHY the fans have turned away. Wake up please Mr Lowe before its to late.
sean wrote:
SO FAR I LIKE WHAT I SEE AND HEAR FROM PORTVILET.I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE COMING SEASON. I THINK WITH A BIT OF TIME,PATIENCE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERBODY WE WILL BE ALRIGHT COME ON YOU SAINTS
Fans will not be at the game, another poor turn out my guess about 12500. This is NOT AT THE TEAM but at Lowe, he will not get any more of my money. Do not have a go at me as thousands of true fans feel the same I am NOT the only one that wont be their. Lowe out and I sure thousands will return. He has split our fan base and Ime sure he wont even understand WHY the fans have turned away. Wake up please Mr Lowe before its to late.
Posted by: James, Southampton on 8:17am Fri 1 Aug 08
I agree with you sean, i believe we are showing some good spirit. Yes i am sure the anti lowe fans will say we have only managed to score a few goals but hey, as the boss says confidence is key, we leeked so many goals last seasona nd so far we have strong defence.
COYR
I agree with you sean, i believe we are showing some good spirit. Yes i am sure the anti lowe fans will say we have only managed to score a few goals but hey, as the boss says confidence is key, we leeked so many goals last seasona nd so far we have strong defence.
Posted by: disco, On the dance floor on 8:25am Fri 1 Aug 08
I think there will be 20k plus tonight - and i dont like what mr lowe has done to the club - but il not turn my back on the team by not going, what does that prove?? plus i live with the mrs and son so theres no excuse im waving by to get out with the lads and have a few FREEEEEEEEEDDDOOOOOO
MMMM!!!! :-)
CONYR
I think there will be 20k plus tonight - and i dont like what mr lowe has done to the club - but il not turn my back on the team by not going, what does that prove?? plus i live with the mrs and son so theres no excuse im waving by to get out with the lads and have a few FREEEEEEEEEDDDOOOOOO
MMMM!!!! :-)
Posted by: Marc, Southampton on 8:45am Fri 1 Aug 08
People staying away to hurt Lowe? I've never heard anything more moronic. The only thing it will damage is our club. Some people are so narrow minded.
Im not a Lowe fan, but a lot of the cost cutting neasures that have taken place I can see the sense in. We are not a premiership club anymore and if idiots keep on with this pathetic stance on not giving Lowe thier money, then we wont be able to afford to survive in the Championship much longer either!
If you are true supporters then grow up and support your team!
People staying away to hurt Lowe? I've never heard anything more moronic. The only thing it will damage is our club. Some people are so narrow minded.
Im not a Lowe fan, but a lot of the cost cutting neasures that have taken place I can see the sense in. We are not a premiership club anymore and if idiots keep on with this pathetic stance on not giving Lowe thier money, then we wont be able to afford to survive in the Championship much longer either!
If you are true supporters then grow up and support your team!
Posted by: Exiled Saint, herts on 8:56am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Marc[/bold] wrote:
People staying away to hurt Lowe? I\\\'ve never heard anything more moronic. The only thing it will damage is our club. Some people are so narrow minded. Im not a Lowe fan, but a lot of the cost cutting neasures that have taken place I can see the sense in. We are not a premiership club anymore and if idiots keep on with this pathetic stance on not giving Lowe thier money, then we wont be able to afford to survive in the Championship much longer either! If you are true supporters then grow up and support your team![/quote] Agree 100% COYR
Marc wrote:
People staying away to hurt Lowe? I've never heard anything more moronic. The only thing it will damage is our club. Some people are so narrow minded. Im not a Lowe fan, but a lot of the cost cutting neasures that have taken place I can see the sense in. We are not a premiership club anymore and if idiots keep on with this pathetic stance on not giving Lowe thier money, then we wont be able to afford to survive in the Championship much longer either! If you are true supporters then grow up and support your team!
[quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]sean[/bold] wrote: SO FAR I LIKE WHAT I SEE AND HEAR FROM PORTVILET.I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE COMING SEASON. I THINK WITH A BIT OF TIME,PATIENCE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERBODY WE WILL BE ALRIGHT COME ON YOU SAINTS [/quote] Fans will not be at the game, another poor turn out my guess about 12500. This is NOT AT THE TEAM but at Lowe, he will not get any more of my money. Do not have a go at me as thousands of true fans feel the same I am NOT the only one that wont be their. Lowe out and I sure thousands will return. He has split our fan base and Ime sure he wont even understand WHY the fans have turned away. Wake up please Mr Lowe before its to late.[/quote] Shame you should be - you are never a true Saints supporter and never will be and the same goes for all your other fans who stay away.
True supporters support the club and the team whatever the circumstances.
I'm not a Lowe fan but I am a Saints fan and always will be!
saint stephen wrote:
sean wrote: SO FAR I LIKE WHAT I SEE AND HEAR FROM PORTVILET.I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE COMING SEASON. I THINK WITH A BIT OF TIME,PATIENCE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERBODY WE WILL BE ALRIGHT COME ON YOU SAINTS
Fans will not be at the game, another poor turn out my guess about 12500. This is NOT AT THE TEAM but at Lowe, he will not get any more of my money. Do not have a go at me as thousands of true fans feel the same I am NOT the only one that wont be their. Lowe out and I sure thousands will return. He has split our fan base and Ime sure he wont even understand WHY the fans have turned away. Wake up please Mr Lowe before its to late.
Shame you should be - you are never a true Saints supporter and never will be and the same goes for all your other fans who stay away.
True supporters support the club and the team whatever the circumstances.
I'm not a Lowe fan but I am a Saints fan and always will be!
Posted by: Anti negative, Live in hope on 8:59am Fri 1 Aug 08
I agree with the reasonable positive tone of most of the previous posts. It is time to stop the whingeing and whinning, and support your team. As with most reasonable people, I have my own view of Rupert Lowe et al, both as a business man and a football person. Anyone with one ounce of passion for Saints in their body would stop all this negativity and support their team. COYR.
I agree with the reasonable positive tone of most of the previous posts. It is time to stop the whingeing and whinning, and support your team. As with most reasonable people, I have my own view of Rupert Lowe et al, both as a business man and a football person. Anyone with one ounce of passion for Saints in their body would stop all this negativity and support their team. COYR.
Posted by: Shaz, Just got up!! on 9:07am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mullingar[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]sean[/bold] wrote: SO FAR I LIKE WHAT I SEE AND HEAR FROM PORTVILET.I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE COMING SEASON. I THINK WITH A BIT OF TIME,PATIENCE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERBODY WE WILL BE ALRIGHT COME ON YOU SAINTS [/quote] Fans will not be at the game, another poor turn out my guess about 12500. This is NOT AT THE TEAM but at Lowe, he will not get any more of my money. Do not have a go at me as thousands of true fans feel the same I am NOT the only one that wont be their. Lowe out and I sure thousands will return. He has split our fan base and Ime sure he wont even understand WHY the fans have turned away. Wake up please Mr Lowe before its to late.[/quote] Shame you should be - you are never a true Saints supporter and never will be and the same goes for all your other fans who stay away. True supporters support the club and the team whatever the circumstances. I'm not a Lowe fan but I am a Saints fan and always will be![/quote] Hear hear Mullingar - I've never posted before, but am fed up with all the "Saints fans" saying they are staying away because of Lowe - you support your TEAM through thick and thin if you are a true supporter. I will be there tonight to support the players. Let's prove we are supposed to be in the prem.
COYR!!
mullingar wrote:
saint stephen wrote:
sean wrote: SO FAR I LIKE WHAT I SEE AND HEAR FROM PORTVILET.I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE COMING SEASON. I THINK WITH A BIT OF TIME,PATIENCE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERBODY WE WILL BE ALRIGHT COME ON YOU SAINTS
Fans will not be at the game, another poor turn out my guess about 12500. This is NOT AT THE TEAM but at Lowe, he will not get any more of my money. Do not have a go at me as thousands of true fans feel the same I am NOT the only one that wont be their. Lowe out and I sure thousands will return. He has split our fan base and Ime sure he wont even understand WHY the fans have turned away. Wake up please Mr Lowe before its to late.
Shame you should be - you are never a true Saints supporter and never will be and the same goes for all your other fans who stay away. True supporters support the club and the team whatever the circumstances. I'm not a Lowe fan but I am a Saints fan and always will be!
Hear hear Mullingar - I've never posted before, but am fed up with all the "Saints fans" saying they are staying away because of Lowe - you support your TEAM through thick and thin if you are a true supporter. I will be there tonight to support the players. Let's prove we are supposed to be in the prem.
The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not.
They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club.
it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid.
I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant.
I can't support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can.
The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team.
Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history.
Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team.
The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not.
They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club.
it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid.
I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant.
I can't support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can.
The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team.
Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history.
Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team.
How many points will Saints gain if they beat West Ham tonight? How far down the league table will we slip if we lose?
It's just a blooming friendly. Who gives a toss what the attendance is !?!?!?
Since when has attendances at friendlies been any indication of anything?!?
How many points will Saints gain if they beat West Ham tonight? How far down the league table will we slip if we lose?
It's just a blooming friendly. Who gives a toss what the attendance is !?!?!?
Since when has attendances at friendlies been any indication of anything?!?
Posted by: Dr Who, Basingstoke on 9:21am Fri 1 Aug 08
I am very pleased with the subscribers reactions this morning. The research is going well and the trend is definately towards this debilitating depression being conquered. As the respected Gordon Strachan once said - "You can generally put people into two categories - radiators or drainers - and it is the radiators that make the difference." I look forward to seeing a good turn out of radiators at St Marys tonight.
I am very pleased with the subscribers reactions this morning. The research is going well and the trend is definately towards this debilitating depression being conquered. As the respected Gordon Strachan once said - "You can generally put people into two categories - radiators or drainers - and it is the radiators that make the difference." I look forward to seeing a good turn out of radiators at St Marys tonight.
Posted by: Artful Dodger, Millbrook on 9:22am Fri 1 Aug 08
The more posts that saint stephen puts on here, the more I am convinced that he is a Pompey wind-up merchant and not a Saints supporter.
Then again, some of the comments he makes are so stupid, I cannot believe that any Pompey supporter could be that thick.
The more posts that saint stephen puts on here, the more I am convinced that he is a Pompey wind-up merchant and not a Saints supporter.
Then again, some of the comments he makes are so stupid, I cannot believe that any Pompey supporter could be that thick.
Posted by: TRUE SAINT, S.F.C on 9:42am Fri 1 Aug 08
SOD LOWE, SUPPORT THE TEAM. SHOULD BE A GOOD GAME. ALL YOU CLOSET SKATES GO TO SKATE NEWS WEBSITE. REMEMBER S.F.C ALSO STANDS FOR SKATE FREE CITY. END OF
SOD LOWE, SUPPORT THE TEAM. SHOULD BE A GOOD GAME. ALL YOU CLOSET SKATES GO TO SKATE NEWS WEBSITE. REMEMBER S.F.C ALSO STANDS FOR SKATE FREE CITY. END OF
Posted by: Yorkie, Sheriff Hutton on 9:43am Fri 1 Aug 08
I used to call myself a supporter, but more over a fan more accurately describes my mood. Once football became dependent upon money - I feel as though my £10/£20/£30? makes FA difference in the fortunes of my club! I pick and chose games I want to see - my finances are not a bottoless pit. As for not going to SMS because of Lowe - I will not spend another penny there until he is gone. My money will be going to clubs I chose to visit - like Doncaster, Preston, Burnley et al.
I will always look for their result first if I am not at a game, infact Saturday afternoons I'm obsesses about knowing the score virtually every second a match is in progress.
I don't have a holier than thou attitude, but why don't people respect there are fans out there who don't want Rupert or Michael anywhere near our club?
Supporter - someone who financially supports the club
Fan - someone who loves the club but not at any cost.
If you want change - you have to do something. My effort is to starve Rupert of my £300 per annum when visiting SMS. It doesn't hurt him one bit - nor my team, but I feel really smug inside knowing it is not going towards the bubbly at the share holders meeting!
I used to call myself a supporter, but more over a fan more accurately describes my mood. Once football became dependent upon money - I feel as though my £10/£20/£30? makes FA difference in the fortunes of my club! I pick and chose games I want to see - my finances are not a bottoless pit. As for not going to SMS because of Lowe - I will not spend another penny there until he is gone. My money will be going to clubs I chose to visit - like Doncaster, Preston, Burnley et al.
I will always look for their result first if I am not at a game, infact Saturday afternoons I'm obsesses about knowing the score virtually every second a match is in progress.
I don't have a holier than thou attitude, but why don't people respect there are fans out there who don't want Rupert or Michael anywhere near our club?
Supporter - someone who financially supports the club
Fan - someone who loves the club but not at any cost.
If you want change - you have to do something. My effort is to starve Rupert of my £300 per annum when visiting SMS. It doesn't hurt him one bit - nor my team, but I feel really smug inside knowing it is not going towards the bubbly at the share holders meeting!
Posted by: Jesus_02, Kingsland on 9:54am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]James[/bold] wrote:
I agree with you sean, i believe we are showing some good spirit. Yes i am sure the anti lowe fans will say we have only managed to score a few goals but hey, as the boss says confidence is key, we leeked so many goals last seasona nd so far we have strong defence. COYR [/quote] 4-0 westham (if they take their foot of the peddle like Celtic did)
James wrote:
I agree with you sean, i believe we are showing some good spirit. Yes i am sure the anti lowe fans will say we have only managed to score a few goals but hey, as the boss says confidence is key, we leeked so many goals last seasona nd so far we have strong defence. COYR
4-0 westham (if they take their foot of the peddle like Celtic did)
Posted by: John the younger, winchester on 10:00am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Artful Dodger[/bold] wrote:
The more posts that saint stephen puts on here, the more I am convinced that he is a Pompey wind-up merchant and not a Saints supporter. Then again, some of the comments he makes are so stupid, I cannot believe that any Pompey supporter could be that thick. [/quote] Artful dodger, dont you mean big W**KER, why are you so rude.
Artful Dodger wrote:
The more posts that saint stephen puts on here, the more I am convinced that he is a Pompey wind-up merchant and not a Saints supporter. Then again, some of the comments he makes are so stupid, I cannot believe that any Pompey supporter could be that thick.
Artful dodger, dont you mean big W**KER, why are you so rude.
Posted by: Jesus_02, Kingsland on 10:01am Fri 1 Aug 08
I have to agree.
Fans will not be staying away to hurt Lowe. They will be staying away because they don’t want to see how much Lowe has hurt Saints.
£15 to have your heart ripped out anyone?
I have to agree.
Fans will not be staying away to hurt Lowe. They will be staying away because they don’t want to see how much Lowe has hurt Saints.
Posted by: optimist, shirley on 10:04am Fri 1 Aug 08
It would be great to see the 1st team today, but I can't. Why are all these friendly matches on weekdays? If there is a low turnout today consider that first.
As for Lowe bashing, get real. We have no sugar daddy, we make all our fortunes on the pitch. He made the mistake of promoting from within, he is not the only Saints chairman to do this. He was not given his first choice.
All I can do as a fan is support the team, a positive atmosphere helps the players make positive decisions. If we turn they lose heart. Of course there are limits.
It would be great to see the 1st team today, but I can't. Why are all these friendly matches on weekdays? If there is a low turnout today consider that first.
As for Lowe bashing, get real. We have no sugar daddy, we make all our fortunes on the pitch. He made the mistake of promoting from within, he is not the only Saints chairman to do this. He was not given his first choice.
All I can do as a fan is support the team, a positive atmosphere helps the players make positive decisions. If we turn they lose heart. Of course there are limits.
Posted by: shaun, hedge end on 10:26am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
I have to agree.
Fans will not be staying away to hurt Lowe. They will be staying away because they don’t want to see how much Lowe has hurt Saints.
£15 to have your heart ripped out anyone?
[/quote] bitter twisted little boy, have you ever posted anything positive?
Jesus_02 wrote:
I have to agree.
Fans will not be staying away to hurt Lowe. They will be staying away because they don’t want to see how much Lowe has hurt Saints.
£15 to have your heart ripped out anyone?
bitter twisted little boy, have you ever posted anything positive?
How can a true fan say they wont be there to support the team surely that is just ironic. I will be there with many other true fans to support the new team whether Lowe is about or not. I may not like the man but if we want the lads to do well, fans have to support the team regardless. RED ARMY
How can a true fan say they wont be there to support the team surely that is just ironic. I will be there with many other true fans to support the new team whether Lowe is about or not. I may not like the man but if we want the lads to do well, fans have to support the team regardless. RED ARMY
Posted by: miserableoldgit, Southampton on 10:44am Fri 1 Aug 08
All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.
All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.
Posted by: saint stephen, Legend on 10:47am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can\'t support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team. [/quote] Graham clear off and support your local team, its to far for you to travel to SMS on your dole money, must be a team a little nearer to your house. Ime not lazy or shallow, I will always support saints but I will not give my money to Lowe.
Graham wrote:
The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can\'t support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team.
Graham clear off and support your local team, its to far for you to travel to SMS on your dole money, must be a team a little nearer to your house. Ime not lazy or shallow, I will always support saints but I will not give my money to Lowe.
Posted by: True Saint, Southampton on 11:02am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can\'t support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team. [/quote] Graham clear off and support your local team, its to far for you to travel to SMS on your dole money, must be a team a little nearer to your house. Ime not lazy or shallow, I will always support saints but I will not give my money to Lowe.[/quote] You immature and childish comments gives Saints a bad name. Sometimes i wonder if you even think about what you are typing. You seem to think that because you pay £15 to see a game that that money will go into Lowe's pocket. You are seriously that idiotic? Do you really think a financial man such as Lowe will bankrupt his business by letting the debt grow by taking the gate money? Seriously...
Think a bit more before you type your comments in the future. You may not be a Lowe fan, very few are but most of us do realize that first there is nothing you can do and second that he is the one person right now who can turn the club around and make them into a club that makes a profit again. Not many true Saints fans would stay away from the club because someone they dislike is the chairmen. Its the club you go to watch, not the clubs chairmen.
saint stephen wrote:
Graham wrote:
The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can\'t support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team.
Graham clear off and support your local team, its to far for you to travel to SMS on your dole money, must be a team a little nearer to your house. Ime not lazy or shallow, I will always support saints but I will not give my money to Lowe.
You immature and childish comments gives Saints a bad name. Sometimes i wonder if you even think about what you are typing. You seem to think that because you pay £15 to see a game that that money will go into Lowe's pocket. You are seriously that idiotic? Do you really think a financial man such as Lowe will bankrupt his business by letting the debt grow by taking the gate money? Seriously...
Think a bit more before you type your comments in the future. You may not be a Lowe fan, very few are but most of us do realize that first there is nothing you can do and second that he is the one person right now who can turn the club around and make them into a club that makes a profit again. Not many true Saints fans would stay away from the club because someone they dislike is the chairmen. Its the club you go to watch, not the clubs chairmen.
[quote][bold]wiltshire saint[/bold] wrote:
Anybody know approximately what the first team line up will be tonight?[/quote] Yes, Jan does! (scan back up past all the rantings irrelevant to this article and you will find a couple of brief paragraphs about football)
wiltshire saint wrote:
Anybody know approximately what the first team line up will be tonight?
Yes, Jan does! (scan back up past all the rantings irrelevant to this article and you will find a couple of brief paragraphs about football)
[quote][bold]Artful Dodger[/bold] wrote:
The more posts that saint stephen puts on here, the more I am convinced that he is a Pompey wind-up merchant and not a Saints supporter.
Then again, some of the comments he makes are so stupid, I cannot believe that any Pompey supporter could be that thick.
[/quote] He IS a Pompey WUM! and the more people reply to his futile, childish, repetitive posts, the more he will come back.
Ignore him and he will go away!
Artful Dodger wrote:
The more posts that saint stephen puts on here, the more I am convinced that he is a Pompey wind-up merchant and not a Saints supporter.
Then again, some of the comments he makes are so stupid, I cannot believe that any Pompey supporter could be that thick.
He IS a Pompey WUM! and the more people reply to his futile, childish, repetitive posts, the more he will come back.
Posted by: Saint stephen, Legend on 11:25am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]miserableoldgit[/bold] wrote:
All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.[/quote] Last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT.
miserableoldgit wrote:
All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.
Last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT.
Posted by: Jack, Southampton on 11:28am Fri 1 Aug 08
I dont think we should read too much into whatever tonights attendance is.
I have renewed my season ticket and am going to Cardiff next saturday, but due to the credit crunch I cannot afford to go to either the West Ham or Stoke game as Cardiff will cost me a lot of money.
A lot of fans I have spoken to are in the same position.
Lets see what happens when the competitive matched start.
I dont think we should read too much into whatever tonights attendance is.
I have renewed my season ticket and am going to Cardiff next saturday, but due to the credit crunch I cannot afford to go to either the West Ham or Stoke game as Cardiff will cost me a lot of money.
A lot of fans I have spoken to are in the same position.
Lets see what happens when the competitive matched start.
[quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can\'t support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team. [/quote] Graham clear off and support your local team, its to far for you to travel to SMS on your dole money, must be a team a little nearer to your house. Ime not lazy or shallow, I will always support saints but I will not give my money to Lowe.[/quote] I live in Hertfordshire. My local team is now Luton but my heart and soul belongs to Southampton and it costs me £40 in petrol every time I drive down from North of Watford.
I'll only respond to matters of fact right. Money from the ticket sales goes to SFC not to Woopert.
there is an absolute army of Income Tax and VAT Inspectors ensuring that things are done properly
Your excuse for not going is therefore WRONG. If you're not lazy or shallow then you have no backbone.
The best time to support our Club is when it needs it most.
I judge that time to be now. You would rather stay at home and moan about Lowe and that, of course, is your choice.
This means the Club loses money, the kitty for player's wages drops, you don't get to see your favourite Team play and SFC drifts another few £'s towards going bust.
Sounds like everyone a loser on that basis.
You don't really believe that the Money goes to Lowe, do you?
saint stephen wrote:
Graham wrote: The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can\'t support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team.
Graham clear off and support your local team, its to far for you to travel to SMS on your dole money, must be a team a little nearer to your house. Ime not lazy or shallow, I will always support saints but I will not give my money to Lowe.
I live in Hertfordshire. My local team is now Luton but my heart and soul belongs to Southampton and it costs me £40 in petrol every time I drive down from North of Watford.
I'll only respond to matters of fact right. Money from the ticket sales goes to SFC not to Woopert.
there is an absolute army of Income Tax and VAT Inspectors ensuring that things are done properly
Your excuse for not going is therefore WRONG. If you're not lazy or shallow then you have no backbone.
The best time to support our Club is when it needs it most.
I judge that time to be now. You would rather stay at home and moan about Lowe and that, of course, is your choice.
This means the Club loses money, the kitty for player's wages drops, you don't get to see your favourite Team play and SFC drifts another few £'s towards going bust.
Sounds like everyone a loser on that basis.
You don't really believe that the Money goes to Lowe, do you?
Posted by: wiltshire saint, work on 11:43am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]rational[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]wiltshire saint[/bold] wrote: Anybody know approximately what the first team line up will be tonight?[/quote] Yes, Jan does! (scan back up past all the rantings irrelevant to this article and you will find a couple of brief paragraphs about football)[/quote] Oh yeah, nice to see a few football posts on here. The reason I asked about the line up is that there is sometimes a little genuine insider info on the site.
rational wrote:
wiltshire saint wrote: Anybody know approximately what the first team line up will be tonight?
Yes, Jan does! (scan back up past all the rantings irrelevant to this article and you will find a couple of brief paragraphs about football)
Oh yeah, nice to see a few football posts on here. The reason I asked about the line up is that there is sometimes a little genuine insider info on the site.
Posted by: saint stephen, Legend on 11:43am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can\\\'t support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team. [/quote] Graham clear off and support your local team, its to far for you to travel to SMS on your dole money, must be a team a little nearer to your house. Ime not lazy or shallow, I will always support saints but I will not give my money to Lowe.[/quote] I live in Hertfordshire. My local team is now Luton but my heart and soul belongs to Southampton and it costs me £40 in petrol every time I drive down from North of Watford. I\'ll only respond to matters of fact right. Money from the ticket sales goes to SFC not to Woopert. there is an absolute army of Income Tax and VAT Inspectors ensuring that things are done properly Your excuse for not going is therefore WRONG. If you\'re not lazy or shallow then you have no backbone. The best time to support our Club is when it needs it most. I judge that time to be now. You would rather stay at home and moan about Lowe and that, of course, is your choice. This means the Club loses money, the kitty for player\'s wages drops, you don\'t get to see your favourite Team play and SFC drifts another few £\'s towards going bust. Sounds like everyone a loser on that basis. You don\'t really believe that the Money goes to Lowe, do you? [/quote] Excellent comments I must agree with a lot of what you are saying. The money does support his view of things, how can we protest againsts the man if we dont hit him by holding back cash.
I repeat last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT.
I would like to apologise to you, YOU DO CARE about Saints but so do I, lets both put OUR club first and agree to differ.
Graham wrote:
saint stephen wrote:
Graham wrote: The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can't support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team.
Graham clear off and support your local team, its to far for you to travel to SMS on your dole money, must be a team a little nearer to your house. Ime not lazy or shallow, I will always support saints but I will not give my money to Lowe.
I live in Hertfordshire. My local team is now Luton but my heart and soul belongs to Southampton and it costs me £40 in petrol every time I drive down from North of Watford. I\'ll only respond to matters of fact right. Money from the ticket sales goes to SFC not to Woopert. there is an absolute army of Income Tax and VAT Inspectors ensuring that things are done properly Your excuse for not going is therefore WRONG. If you\'re not lazy or shallow then you have no backbone. The best time to support our Club is when it needs it most. I judge that time to be now. You would rather stay at home and moan about Lowe and that, of course, is your choice. This means the Club loses money, the kitty for player\'s wages drops, you don\'t get to see your favourite Team play and SFC drifts another few £\'s towards going bust. Sounds like everyone a loser on that basis. You don\'t really believe that the Money goes to Lowe, do you?
Excellent comments I must agree with a lot of what you are saying. The money does support his view of things, how can we protest againsts the man if we dont hit him by holding back cash.
I repeat last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT.
I would like to apologise to you, YOU DO CARE about Saints but so do I, lets both put OUR club first and agree to differ.
Posted by: Mmmmm, here, there, everwhere on 11:46am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Saint stephen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]miserableoldgit[/bold] wrote: All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.[/quote] Last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT.[/quote] Can you not see that you're arguing against yourself? The team needed the fans, we all turned up, the atmosphere was great, the team responded, we stayed up.
if the fans stay away how does that help the TEAM? You can't say it's great when we fill the stadium then with the next breath say 'I'm not going again because of Lowe'
We don't turn up to support the board/chairman, we turn up to support the team on the pitch.
If the football is right then I couldn't care less who is running the show.
Saint stephen wrote:
miserableoldgit wrote: All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.
Last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT.
Can you not see that you're arguing against yourself? The team needed the fans, we all turned up, the atmosphere was great, the team responded, we stayed up.
if the fans stay away how does that help the TEAM? You can't say it's great when we fill the stadium then with the next breath say 'I'm not going again because of Lowe'
We don't turn up to support the board/chairman, we turn up to support the team on the pitch.
If the football is right then I couldn't care less who is running the show.
Posted by: Saints since '57, Real world on 11:54am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]miserableoldgit[/bold] wrote:
All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.[/quote] I couldn't agree more - this is not the worst point in our history and real fans stick with the club through thick and thin. Mr Lowe is irrelevent, its the team that counts. RL is here to return his investment to what is was 3 years ago and I really hope he succeeds! Cant you lowe haters see that that if his investment goes up in value it means the team has been successful and isn't that what we all want? Wake up! There are no millionaires out there prepared to sell their soul for the Saints in their current finacial plight. I wonder if those 'stay away fans' will be fighting for a ticket if we are successful? Get behind YOUR team.
miserableoldgit wrote:
All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.
I couldn't agree more - this is not the worst point in our history and real fans stick with the club through thick and thin. Mr Lowe is irrelevent, its the team that counts. RL is here to return his investment to what is was 3 years ago and I really hope he succeeds! Cant you lowe haters see that that if his investment goes up in value it means the team has been successful and isn't that what we all want? Wake up! There are no millionaires out there prepared to sell their soul for the Saints in their current finacial plight. I wonder if those 'stay away fans' will be fighting for a ticket if we are successful? Get behind YOUR team.
Posted by: AshSaint, New Milton on 11:56am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Saint stephen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]miserableoldgit[/bold] wrote:
All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.[/quote] Last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT.[/quote] What a stupid comment. The crowd was full for one reason, the last game of the season and we were in a relegation fight. No fans are walking away because of Lowe coming back. Or at least none of the fans that go to the games regularly are. The only one moaning on here is YOURSELF. You want Lowe gone. GREAT. But posting idiotic messages on every article is not only pointless but its immature. Unless you want to do something about it, such as finding an investor i suggest you shut up with your moaning. All these "LOWE OUT" posts are just boring now. Non productive. Do you really think posting them everyday will change other peoples opinions? No. People have already decided what there views are. A lot of people dislike Lowe on principle BUT so far he has done nothing wrong. In fact so far he has been positive towards the club moving forward. Sensible cost cutting. New signing to replace the old faces leaving. Even signing Schniderlin is a very positive move. The guy is young and looks to have a bright future in the game. If you want to rant, rant on but realize that you only look like an idiot to all those that are anti/pro lowe and to those who just are here to support the club.
Saint stephen wrote:
miserableoldgit wrote:
All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.
Last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT.
What a stupid comment. The crowd was full for one reason, the last game of the season and we were in a relegation fight. No fans are walking away because of Lowe coming back. Or at least none of the fans that go to the games regularly are. The only one moaning on here is YOURSELF. You want Lowe gone. GREAT. But posting idiotic messages on every article is not only pointless but its immature. Unless you want to do something about it, such as finding an investor i suggest you shut up with your moaning. All these "LOWE OUT" posts are just boring now. Non productive. Do you really think posting them everyday will change other peoples opinions? No. People have already decided what there views are. A lot of people dislike Lowe on principle BUT so far he has done nothing wrong. In fact so far he has been positive towards the club moving forward. Sensible cost cutting. New signing to replace the old faces leaving. Even signing Schniderlin is a very positive move. The guy is young and looks to have a bright future in the game. If you want to rant, rant on but realize that you only look like an idiot to all those that are anti/pro lowe and to those who just are here to support the club.
Posted by: saint stephen, Legend on 11:59am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Mmmmm[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Saint stephen[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]miserableoldgit[/bold] wrote: All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.[/quote] Last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT.[/quote] Can you not see that you're arguing against yourself? The team needed the fans, we all turned up, the atmosphere was great, the team responded, we stayed up. if the fans stay away how does that help the TEAM? You can't say it's great when we fill the stadium then with the next breath say 'I'm not going again because of Lowe' We don't turn up to support the board/chairman, we turn up to support the team on the pitch. If the football is right then I couldn't care less who is running the show.[/quote] I do his smug face talking about our club. Can you explain to me why he came back, as a share holder he would of collect his share price. He MUST be aware of how most (not all) fans feel about him cant understand whats in it for him, please help.
Mmmmm wrote:
Saint stephen wrote:
miserableoldgit wrote: All this "I am staying away until Lowe has gone" stuff is nonsense. "Thousands of fans will come flooding back when he is gone". Why didn`t they come flooding back when he went last time? I sat through the Branfoot era (probably the worst time in my 50 years as a Saints supporter) as an act of defiance. He was NOT going to drive me out and I would be there long after he was gone, and thats the way it proved. It will be the same with Lowe. Support THE TEAM!! Stuff Lowe!! It`s Saints that are important - not personalities.
Last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT.
Can you not see that you're arguing against yourself? The team needed the fans, we all turned up, the atmosphere was great, the team responded, we stayed up. if the fans stay away how does that help the TEAM? You can't say it's great when we fill the stadium then with the next breath say 'I'm not going again because of Lowe' We don't turn up to support the board/chairman, we turn up to support the team on the pitch. If the football is right then I couldn't care less who is running the show.
I do his smug face talking about our club. Can you explain to me why he came back, as a share holder he would of collect his share price. He MUST be aware of how most (not all) fans feel about him cant understand whats in it for him, please help.
Posted by: threestands, Bournemouth on 12:00pm Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can't support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team. [/quote] Wish I'd posted this. COYR
Graham wrote:
The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can't support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team.
Posted by: Champions League draw on 12:02pm Fri 1 Aug 08
Anorthosis or Rapid Vienna v Olympiakos
Vitoria v IFK Gothenburg or FC Basle
Shakhtar Donetsk v Domzale or Dinamo Zagreb
Schalke 04 v Atletico Madrid
Aalborg or Modrica v Rangers or FBK Kaunas
Barcelona v Beitar Jerusalem or Wislaw Krakow
Levski Sofia v Anderlecht or BATE Borisov
Standard Liege v Liverpool
Inter Baku or FK Partizan v Fenerbahce or MTK Budapest
FC Twente v Arsenal
Spartak Moscow v Drogheda or Dinamo Kiev
Juventus v Tampere United or FC Artmedia
SK Brann or Ventspils v Marseille
Fiorentina v Slavia Prague
Galatasaray v Steaua Bucharest
Panathinaikos or Dinamo Tbilisi v FC Sheriff or Sparta Prague
Matches to be played on 12th/13th and 26th/27th of August.
Anorthosis or Rapid Vienna v Olympiakos
Vitoria v IFK Gothenburg or FC Basle
Shakhtar Donetsk v Domzale or Dinamo Zagreb
Schalke 04 v Atletico Madrid
Aalborg or Modrica v Rangers or FBK Kaunas
Barcelona v Beitar Jerusalem or Wislaw Krakow
Levski Sofia v Anderlecht or BATE Borisov
Standard Liege v Liverpool
Inter Baku or FK Partizan v Fenerbahce or MTK Budapest
FC Twente v Arsenal
Spartak Moscow v Drogheda or Dinamo Kiev
Juventus v Tampere United or FC Artmedia
SK Brann or Ventspils v Marseille
Fiorentina v Slavia Prague
Galatasaray v Steaua Bucharest
Panathinaikos or Dinamo Tbilisi v FC Sheriff or Sparta Prague
Matches to be played on 12th/13th and 26th/27th of August.
[quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote: The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can\\\'t support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team. [/quote] Graham clear off and support your local team, its to far for you to travel to SMS on your dole money, must be a team a little nearer to your house. Ime not lazy or shallow, I will always support saints but I will not give my money to Lowe.[/quote] I live in Hertfordshire. My local team is now Luton but my heart and soul belongs to Southampton and it costs me £40 in petrol every time I drive down from North of Watford. I\'ll only respond to matters of fact right. Money from the ticket sales goes to SFC not to Woopert. there is an absolute army of Income Tax and VAT Inspectors ensuring that things are done properly Your excuse for not going is therefore WRONG. If you\'re not lazy or shallow then you have no backbone. The best time to support our Club is when it needs it most. I judge that time to be now. You would rather stay at home and moan about Lowe and that, of course, is your choice. This means the Club loses money, the kitty for player\'s wages drops, you don\'t get to see your favourite Team play and SFC drifts another few £\'s towards going bust. Sounds like everyone a loser on that basis. You don\'t really believe that the Money goes to Lowe, do you? [/quote] Excellent comments I must agree with a lot of what you are saying. The money does support his view of things, how can we protest againsts the man if we dont hit him by holding back cash. I repeat last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT. I would like to apologise to you, YOU DO CARE about Saints but so do I, lets both put OUR club first and agree to differ.[/quote] Thanks. I appreciate that.
One of the advantages of getting older is you have seen most things.
The most powerful protest I ever saw was in the 1960's olympics when the American Athletes Raised a black gloved right hand in protest about the way they were treated.
The most powerful protest against Lowe would be for every seat to be filled - showing support for the Club - and then at a pre-arranged times as many of the Saints fans who wanted to held up some placard or printed sign and faced the Director's Box and gave it a 1 minute dignified silence.
Lowe can laugh off the jeering and booing - he certainly has in the past but the silent treatment is much deeper and powerful.
In any event "CLUB first, Lowe no where". I've just come up with a placard.
I'll be there cheering the Team if my wife allows me some money for petrol. (You couldn't lend me £50, could you?)
saint stephen wrote:
Graham wrote:
saint stephen wrote:
Graham wrote: The Anti-Lowe fanatics do not have the intellectual capacity to make a considered decision on whether to stay away or not. They will not be there because they are lazy, shallow, good-time fans who have no concept of the damage they are doing to the Club. it is not Lowe splitting the Club, it is the witless, the prejudiced and the stupid. I do not support Lowe, I have no interest in him. He is irrelevant. I can't support the Club by NOT going to matches. I can only support the Club by paying out my meagre pension to attend when I can. The Club means everything. Lowe means nothing. Get over him asn excuse for huffing and puffing and get out on the terraces and support the Team. Its a great team and a great Club and it needs your support over the next 9 mo0nths or so more than anytime in its history. Punish Lowe with the contempt of silence and shout your heads off for the team.
Graham clear off and support your local team, its to far for you to travel to SMS on your dole money, must be a team a little nearer to your house. Ime not lazy or shallow, I will always support saints but I will not give my money to Lowe.
I live in Hertfordshire. My local team is now Luton but my heart and soul belongs to Southampton and it costs me £40 in petrol every time I drive down from North of Watford. I\'ll only respond to matters of fact right. Money from the ticket sales goes to SFC not to Woopert. there is an absolute army of Income Tax and VAT Inspectors ensuring that things are done properly Your excuse for not going is therefore WRONG. If you\'re not lazy or shallow then you have no backbone. The best time to support our Club is when it needs it most. I judge that time to be now. You would rather stay at home and moan about Lowe and that, of course, is your choice. This means the Club loses money, the kitty for player\'s wages drops, you don\'t get to see your favourite Team play and SFC drifts another few £\'s towards going bust. Sounds like everyone a loser on that basis. You don\'t really believe that the Money goes to Lowe, do you?
Excellent comments I must agree with a lot of what you are saying. The money does support his view of things, how can we protest againsts the man if we dont hit him by holding back cash. I repeat last game last season, the team was in trouble, SMS sold out. Saints have a large fan base, and when the time is right (LOWE GONE) it will be sold out again. You cannot continue to moan because people have a different opinion to YOU. Its all our club and we DO ALL care live with it. Whats changed from last season - YOU WORK IT OUT. I would like to apologise to you, YOU DO CARE about Saints but so do I, lets both put OUR club first and agree to differ.
Thanks. I appreciate that.
One of the advantages of getting older is you have seen most things.
The most powerful protest I ever saw was in the 1960's olympics when the American Athletes Raised a black gloved right hand in protest about the way they were treated.
The most powerful protest against Lowe would be for every seat to be filled - showing support for the Club - and then at a pre-arranged times as many of the Saints fans who wanted to held up some placard or printed sign and faced the Director's Box and gave it a 1 minute dignified silence.
Lowe can laugh off the jeering and booing - he certainly has in the past but the silent treatment is much deeper and powerful.
In any event "CLUB first, Lowe no where". I've just come up with a placard.
I'll be there cheering the Team if my wife allows me some money for petrol. (You couldn't lend me £50, could you?)
Posted by: Saint stephen, Legend on 12:14pm Fri 1 Aug 08
You seem like a nice bloke, I would love to lend you £50 but got a wife to. Enjoy your football I will support the team, but cant forgive Lowe of Wilde just yet.
SAINT STEPHEN WILL NOT POST ANY MORE -n I HAVE MADE MY FEELING KNOWN, TIME WILL PROVE ME RIGHT OR WRONG, I HOPE IME WRONG.
Any posts on here using my name will not be me THE LEGEND has posted the last post.
You seem like a nice bloke, I would love to lend you £50 but got a wife to. Enjoy your football I will support the team, but cant forgive Lowe of Wilde just yet.
SAINT STEPHEN WILL NOT POST ANY MORE -n I HAVE MADE MY FEELING KNOWN, TIME WILL PROVE ME RIGHT OR WRONG, I HOPE IME WRONG.
Any posts on here using my name will not be me THE LEGEND has posted the last post.
Posted by: Jason, Salisbury on 12:36pm Fri 1 Aug 08
My god, the first time in ages I've been able to write a message on this site that isn't a response to negative rubbish!
Great to see the site 95 per cent full of positive comments and only the very hardcore Pompey fans posting their usual rantings.
To be honest though I think today's postings are a better reflection of what I recognise at SMS – the vast majority wanting the team to do well.
It's all too easy for the negative few to make themselves look dominant on this site, but less easy if we drown them out at the ground.
Up the Saints.
My god, the first time in ages I've been able to write a message on this site that isn't a response to negative rubbish!
Great to see the site 95 per cent full of positive comments and only the very hardcore Pompey fans posting their usual rantings.
To be honest though I think today's postings are a better reflection of what I recognise at SMS – the vast majority wanting the team to do well.
It's all too easy for the negative few to make themselves look dominant on this site, but less easy if we drown them out at the ground.
Posted by: the vengeful cabbage on 12:52pm Fri 1 Aug 08
Whats happened have BW. Phillips and N.Dyer stolen the sunshine or something??? I was looking forward to getting a nice tan and now look. Still lets hope the day doesn't turn out to be a complete waste and Saints can play well tonight. ;)
Whats happened have BW. Phillips and N.Dyer stolen the sunshine or something??? I was looking forward to getting a nice tan and now look. Still lets hope the day doesn't turn out to be a complete waste and Saints can play well tonight. ;)
Posted by: Jason, Salisbury on 12:56pm Fri 1 Aug 08
By the way. For me, this isn't some deluded optimism that will be wiped out if the result isn't that great tonight and I hope others will agree, especially as West Ham will have plenty of quality.
Even our first choice line-up is going to need time and patience to get results and get used to the style of play and their new team mates.
And we need to develop the sort of mentality where, when we have a set-back, we just jump back up and get stronger.
It would be all too easy to start looking for people to blame.
Put it this way – we can either do a William Gallas and sit down and sulk (and it didn't help his team or win him any admirers), or we can try to recreate the old spirit where we're the underdogs and show a bit of fight.
By the way. For me, this isn't some deluded optimism that will be wiped out if the result isn't that great tonight and I hope others will agree, especially as West Ham will have plenty of quality.
Even our first choice line-up is going to need time and patience to get results and get used to the style of play and their new team mates.
And we need to develop the sort of mentality where, when we have a set-back, we just jump back up and get stronger.
It would be all too easy to start looking for people to blame.
Put it this way – we can either do a William Gallas and sit down and sulk (and it didn't help his team or win him any admirers), or we can try to recreate the old spirit where we're the underdogs and show a bit of fight.
Posted by: Saints4Eva, Eastleigh on 12:57pm Fri 1 Aug 08
I will be at SMS tonight and on Tuesday with two 13 year old lads, who love SAINTS, their team. They are really looking forward to seeing their TEAM play against a Premiership side with household name players and are both wishing it is not too much longer before SAINTS are back where they belong. They long for the days they can go into School with their heads held high happy to be competing and playing against the Arsenal, Chelsea, Manu U, Liverpools of this world because they support their TEAM and actually wear a shirt that means something, not just picked up in JJB sports and they have never seem their players so much as kick a ball.
It would be easy for the next generation of SAINTS fans to hang their heads in shame, never go near SMS again if they read and listened to you negative Saints moaners who come on here everyday just to whinge and whine. Lets hope Jan unearths another young superstar who can become the kids hero, like Le Tiss. Every true football fan loves their CLUB through thick and thin and does not give a **** about who is in charge - we are not going to SMS tonight to see if Rupert Lowe has turned up, we are going to support our TEAM and run our eyes over Schniderlin, Lloyd James, Lee Holmes etc. ahead of next week's game at Cardiff. When SAINTS return to the Premiership, I certainly won't be paying £7.50 for the lads to watch two games of football.
COYR's and let's give the Hammers a good game.
I will be at SMS tonight and on Tuesday with two 13 year old lads, who love SAINTS, their team. They are really looking forward to seeing their TEAM play against a Premiership side with household name players and are both wishing it is not too much longer before SAINTS are back where they belong. They long for the days they can go into School with their heads held high happy to be competing and playing against the Arsenal, Chelsea, Manu U, Liverpools of this world because they support their TEAM and actually wear a shirt that means something, not just picked up in JJB sports and they have never seem their players so much as kick a ball.
It would be easy for the next generation of SAINTS fans to hang their heads in shame, never go near SMS again if they read and listened to you negative Saints moaners who come on here everyday just to whinge and whine. Lets hope Jan unearths another young superstar who can become the kids hero, like Le Tiss. Every true football fan loves their CLUB through thick and thin and does not give a **** about who is in charge - we are not going to SMS tonight to see if Rupert Lowe has turned up, we are going to support our TEAM and run our eyes over Schniderlin, Lloyd James, Lee Holmes etc. ahead of next week's game at Cardiff. When SAINTS return to the Premiership, I certainly won't be paying £7.50 for the lads to watch two games of football.
COYR's and let's give the Hammers a good game.
Posted by: Simon Templar, Woolston on 1:12pm Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]saint stephen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]sean[/bold] wrote:
SO FAR I LIKE WHAT I SEE AND HEAR FROM PORTVILET.I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE COMING SEASON. I THINK WITH A BIT OF TIME,PATIENCE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERBODY WE WILL BE ALRIGHT COME ON YOU SAINTS [/quote] Fans will not be at the game, another poor turn out my guess about 12500. This is NOT AT THE TEAM but at Lowe, he will not get any more of my money. Do not have a go at me as thousands of true fans feel the same I am NOT the only one that wont be their. Lowe out and I sure thousands will return. He has split our fan base and Ime sure he wont even understand WHY the fans have turned away. Wake up please Mr Lowe before its to late.[/quote] What he said. GTFO Rupert
saint stephen wrote:
sean wrote:
SO FAR I LIKE WHAT I SEE AND HEAR FROM PORTVILET.I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE COMING SEASON. I THINK WITH A BIT OF TIME,PATIENCE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERBODY WE WILL BE ALRIGHT COME ON YOU SAINTS
Fans will not be at the game, another poor turn out my guess about 12500. This is NOT AT THE TEAM but at Lowe, he will not get any more of my money. Do not have a go at me as thousands of true fans feel the same I am NOT the only one that wont be their. Lowe out and I sure thousands will return. He has split our fan base and Ime sure he wont even understand WHY the fans have turned away. Wake up please Mr Lowe before its to late.
Posted by: True Blue, Fareham on 1:30pm Fri 1 Aug 08
Saints played in a few five goal thrillers last season, and I have a feeling Cardiff will be another.
Very open and end to end.
My prediction is Saints will win 3-2!
A good start to a reasonable season.
Top 8 upwards?
Come on you saints, I'll be right behind you next season.
Saints played in a few five goal thrillers last season, and I have a feeling Cardiff will be another.
Very open and end to end.
My prediction is Saints will win 3-2!
A good start to a reasonable season.
Top 8 upwards?
Come on you saints, I'll be right behind you next season.
As long as we score more goals than any other team we play then we will have a great season.
It's not that hard to do in the Championship if you get together a bit of momentum and consistency.
As long as we score more goals than any other team we play then we will have a great season.
It's not that hard to do in the Championship if you get together a bit of momentum and consistency.
Looking forward to tonight. Should be interesting if he does put his first team out. Poortvliet talks a good game but has he got the quality to work with? I am willing Saints to play good attacking football and for the youngsters to fly forward. Plenty of goalmouth action is what I want. Hopefully at the West Ham end! On a different tack - why can't you lot try to build some bridges instead of slagging each other off about Lowe? Lowe coming back has divided us - no doubt about it. Why can't we concentrate on what we have in common rather than slag each other off over our differences (or is that the reasons some of you come on here - to slagg people off?). Tell Lowe what you think of him tonight if you must but lets all cheer the team on and show the players they have our full support.
Looking forward to tonight. Should be interesting if he does put his first team out. Poortvliet talks a good game but has he got the quality to work with? I am willing Saints to play good attacking football and for the youngsters to fly forward. Plenty of goalmouth action is what I want. Hopefully at the West Ham end! On a different tack - why can't you lot try to build some bridges instead of slagging each other off about Lowe? Lowe coming back has divided us - no doubt about it. Why can't we concentrate on what we have in common rather than slag each other off over our differences (or is that the reasons some of you come on here - to slagg people off?). Tell Lowe what you think of him tonight if you must but lets all cheer the team on and show the players they have our full support.
Posted by: Ollie, Eastleigh on 2:07pm Fri 1 Aug 08
You lot above who keep on and on about not supporting the team because of Rupert Lowe are pathetic. You either support the team or you don’t!!! The team will need all the support it can get this season to at least have a chance of getting anywhere. Get behind the team or f*ck off and support another team like those pathetic t*ats down the road. A true fan supports the team what ever happens to it!!!! Up the Saints and good luck boys.
You lot above who keep on and on about not supporting the team because of Rupert Lowe are pathetic. You either support the team or you don’t!!! The team will need all the support it can get this season to at least have a chance of getting anywhere. Get behind the team or f*ck off and support another team like those pathetic t*ats down the road. A true fan supports the team what ever happens to it!!!! Up the Saints and good luck boys.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 2:11pm Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]True Blue[/bold] wrote:
Saints played in a few five goal thrillers last season, and I have a feeling Cardiff will be another. Very open and end to end. My prediction is Saints will win 3-2! A good start to a reasonable season. Top 8 upwards? Come on you saints, I'll be right behind you next season.[/quote] I agree with you True Blue.
Come on You Saints.
True Blue wrote:
Saints played in a few five goal thrillers last season, and I have a feeling Cardiff will be another. Very open and end to end. My prediction is Saints will win 3-2! A good start to a reasonable season. Top 8 upwards? Come on you saints, I'll be right behind you next season.
Posted by: Boys Vs Men, The Northam Stand on 2:37pm Fri 1 Aug 08
Will be at the match tonight, but to be honest im expecting a mauling as has been evident in the last 2 freindly games we cannot beat lower league opposition with our best players, thats because most of em are kids and need to show some empahasis on cloaing out games and gile and determination to score at least, TAKE NOTE BRADLEY, SAGA, JOHN and RASIAK all of you need to perform tonight!!, hope also to see KILLER back tonight also!!
Will be at the match tonight, but to be honest im expecting a mauling as has been evident in the last 2 freindly games we cannot beat lower league opposition with our best players, thats because most of em are kids and need to show some empahasis on cloaing out games and gile and determination to score at least, TAKE NOTE BRADLEY, SAGA, JOHN and RASIAK all of you need to perform tonight!!, hope also to see KILLER back tonight also!!
Posted by: tata choos, Soho Square on 2:38pm Fri 1 Aug 08
I hate it when people go on about I would support them even if they shut down or moved to timbuktu or in the ladies league or if they have to play behind closed doors. Face it and use the money on your family or top up for gas meter. The game has always been about entertainment so go mogaritas or something get yourself some scat has to be better than seeing dribble saints drag out a nil nil three weeks in a row followed by a 96th minute loss 1-0. Smyaaart. Now get behind the team.
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