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THE Saints Trust chairman has renewed his call for a member of the organisation to be on the Saints' board.
Nick Illingsworth thinks that by having a fan on the top table at St. Mary's, the club and supporters will benefit.
He said: "As the largest Saints supporters group -
and backed by Supporters Direct - it has the
constitution and the infrastructure to
undertake what is no little task.
"This act would show supporters that the
major shareholders do care about the club
and are determined to be transparent and
show the fans that they have the best interests
of the club at heart.
"And, from the fans
point of view, that there are no hidden agendas.
The road back to prosperity will be hard
and long.
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"If those in the boardroom, whoever
they may be after the EGM, want the support
of the fans, then surely it is not wrong
to seek fans' representation in the boardroom."
So for the latest Question of the Week, we're asking:
Should Saints Trust have a place on
the board and a say in what goes on at
the club?
Posted by: Golac's Right Foot, New Forest on 2:16pm Mon 14 Apr 08
No,well at least not yet.
The last time this was raised was during the 'Saints go Wilde' era.....
What a success that was eh?
First, sort out the boardroom - one way or another the three biggest shareholders need to be shipped out.
TBF Crouch is doing what Pearson is, making the best of what he has at the moment.
Lowe and Wilde? Let's have them declare what their TRUE intentions are regarding the club and the PLC.
[bold]Come on boys, where's the manifesto???[/bold]
No,well at least not yet.
The last time this was raised was during the 'Saints go Wilde' era.....
What a success that was eh?
First, sort out the boardroom - one way or another the three biggest shareholders need to be shipped out.
TBF Crouch is doing what Pearson is, making the best of what he has at the moment.
Lowe and Wilde? Let's have them declare what their TRUE intentions are regarding the club and the PLC.
You do not repersent me Nick and I guess most Saints fans!
Get off your ego horse!!
The board do not need any other children on the board, they have enough dealing with the squabbles kiddies already!
Such a bad idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do not repersent me Nick and I guess most Saints fans!
Get off your ego horse!!
The board do not need any other children on the board, they have enough dealing with the squabbles kiddies already!
And what would this FOTB actually do? He (because it's bound to be a he, we men have got the biggest mouths) wouldn't have a say on any signings, wouldn't have a say on any sackings, wouldn't have a say on tactics, wouldn't have a say on team selection, rightly so as well, so what would be the point? The point would be that one of the so called "superfans" like the aforementioned Mr Illingsworth could stroke their ego and the club could say "we listen to the fans" when, in fact, doing the opposite. If the club want to listen to the fans they should start talking to us much ignored season ticket holders, not a bunch of people who paid a fiver for "membership" two years ago, a fiver that never went anywhere near the club. Can someone please tell me what the trust has done apart from getting our club back with Mr Wilde!
And what would this FOTB actually do? He (because it's bound to be a he, we men have got the biggest mouths) wouldn't have a say on any signings, wouldn't have a say on any sackings, wouldn't have a say on tactics, wouldn't have a say on team selection, rightly so as well, so what would be the point? The point would be that one of the so called "superfans" like the aforementioned Mr Illingsworth could stroke their ego and the club could say "we listen to the fans" when, in fact, doing the opposite. If the club want to listen to the fans they should start talking to us much ignored season ticket holders, not a bunch of people who paid a fiver for "membership" two years ago, a fiver that never went anywhere near the club. Can someone please tell me what the trust has done apart from getting our club back with Mr Wilde!
Posted by: Dave, Lordswood on 3:03pm Mon 14 Apr 08
Who the hell do the Trust represent but a small clique ? They have very few members and most of them were automatically reinstated for free to boost the figures.
What is thier track record ?
They supported the Wilde takeover and look where that has led us.
They were responsible for the Ted Bates statue fiasco.
They cant even keep thier website up to date.
I cant think of anything they have acheived since they started.
They dont represent me and most fans I know think they are a joke.
Oh yeah didnt they organise a quiz night once !
Whoopee !
Who the hell do the Trust represent but a small clique ? They have very few members and most of them were automatically reinstated for free to boost the figures.
What is thier track record ?
They supported the Wilde takeover and look where that has led us.
They were responsible for the Ted Bates statue fiasco.
They cant even keep thier website up to date.
I cant think of anything they have acheived since they started.
They dont represent me and most fans I know think they are a joke.
Oh yeah didnt they organise a quiz night once !
Whoopee !
If the Trust want a seat on the board, surely the answer would be for them to buy more shares!
What percentage of the shares do they hold?
If only a very small percentage, then surely they can make their voices heard at the AGM, the same as other shareholders!
If the Trust want a seat on the board, surely the answer would be for them to buy more shares!
What percentage of the shares do they hold?
If only a very small percentage, then surely they can make their voices heard at the AGM, the same as other shareholders!
There are enough incompetents on the board already, without the additon of Nick Illingsworthless!
There are enough board members already who are only interested in preserving their own positions, rather than improving the position of the team, without letting another freeloading snout into the trough!
There are enough incompetents on the board already, without the additon of Nick Illingsworthless!
There are enough board members already who are only interested in preserving their own positions, rather than improving the position of the team, without letting another freeloading snout into the trough!
All the comments I've seen so far are exactly what most football chairmen and directors want - fans who turn up and pay entrance money and buy replica kit for 50 years and in all that time have bugger all influence in how their club is run. Carry on guys - you're as gullible as you sound!
All the comments I've seen so far are exactly what most football chairmen and directors want - fans who turn up and pay entrance money and buy replica kit for 50 years and in all that time have bugger all influence in how their club is run. Carry on guys - you're as gullible as you sound!
To all those people whinging about Nick Illingsworth and the Saints Trust, why don't you join the Trust and change things if they are so dreadful and don't represent the views of the majority? It would be easy as apparently there are so few members a couple of dozen could do it.
Oh no, of course it is much easier to anonymously complain on an internet message board......
To all those people whinging about Nick Illingsworth and the Saints Trust, why don't you join the Trust and change things if they are so dreadful and don't represent the views of the majority? It would be easy as apparently there are so few members a couple of dozen could do it.
Oh no, of course it is much easier to anonymously complain on an internet message board......
I'm hardly going to join the "Stark Raving Looney Party" if I disagree with their views. The trust have been naive in the past and I would have no problem with them having a place on the board if they spoke for enough shareholders to warrant a place on the board.
The solution to the problems at Saints FC is the lack of funds. Wouldn't it be a better use of the trusts time bringing potential investors to the table.
I'm hardly going to join the "Stark Raving Looney Party" if I disagree with their views. The trust have been naive in the past and I would have no problem with them having a place on the board if they spoke for enough shareholders to warrant a place on the board.
The solution to the problems at Saints FC is the lack of funds. Wouldn't it be a better use of the trusts time bringing potential investors to the table.
I'm hardly going to join the "Stark Raving Looney Party" if I disagree with their views. The trust have been naive in the past and I would have no problem with them having a place on the board if they spoke for enough shareholders to warrant a place on the board.
The solution to the problems at Saints FC is the lack of funds. Wouldn't it be a better use of the trusts time bringing potential investors to the table.
I'm hardly going to join the "Stark Raving Looney Party" if I disagree with their views. The trust have been naive in the past and I would have no problem with them having a place on the board if they spoke for enough shareholders to warrant a place on the board.
The solution to the problems at Saints FC is the lack of funds. Wouldn't it be a better use of the trusts time bringing potential investors to the table.
[quote][bold]hugh[/bold] wrote:
To all those people whinging about Nick Illingsworth and the Saints Trust, why don't you join the Trust and change things if they are so dreadful and don't represent the views of the majority? It would be easy as apparently there are so few members a couple of dozen could do it. Oh no, of course it is much easier to anonymously complain on an internet message board...... [/quote] But that is just it, [bold]NOBODY[/bold] will ever represent the views of every fan so why bother trying.
People like Nick Illingsworth and John P**pey Westwood are fanatical to the extreme and probably still get tucked up each night dreaming of scoring the winning goal for their clubs. They know in reality this will never happen but this is the nearest they will ever get. When they wake up and realise they are actually just paying customers like the rest of us perhaps we can all move on.
hugh wrote:
To all those people whinging about Nick Illingsworth and the Saints Trust, why don't you join the Trust and change things if they are so dreadful and don't represent the views of the majority? It would be easy as apparently there are so few members a couple of dozen could do it. Oh no, of course it is much easier to anonymously complain on an internet message board......
But that is just it, NOBODY will ever represent the views of every fan so why bother trying.
People like Nick Illingsworth and John P**pey Westwood are fanatical to the extreme and probably still get tucked up each night dreaming of scoring the winning goal for their clubs. They know in reality this will never happen but this is the nearest they will ever get. When they wake up and realise they are actually just paying customers like the rest of us perhaps we can all move on.
Posted by: Reg, Southampton on 4:18pm Mon 14 Apr 08
[quote][bold]hugh[/bold] wrote:
To all those people whinging about Nick Illingsworth and the Saints Trust, why don\'t you join the Trust and change things if they are so dreadful and don\'t represent the views of the majority? It would be easy as apparently there are so few members a couple of dozen could do it.
Oh no, of course it is much easier to anonymously complain on an internet message board......
[/quote] Why would you join a little cliquey club that has acheived nothing ?
I can go to my local boozer for a quiz night anyway!!!!!!!
hugh wrote:
To all those people whinging about Nick Illingsworth and the Saints Trust, why don\'t you join the Trust and change things if they are so dreadful and don\'t represent the views of the majority? It would be easy as apparently there are so few members a couple of dozen could do it.
Oh no, of course it is much easier to anonymously complain on an internet message board......
Why would you join a little cliquey club that has acheived nothing ?
I can go to my local boozer for a quiz night anyway!!!!!!!
Posted by: Gazza, Southampton on 4:51pm Mon 14 Apr 08
I would say a resounding 'No' based on the rubbish I regularly read on here posted by 'fans' and 2 key decisions that fans have influenced. Firstly, the decision to stop Glenn Hoddle replacing Gordon Strachan as manager and secondly, the campaign that resulted in the current board that have done nothing except take us to the brink of Div 1 and financial meltdown!
I would say a resounding 'No' based on the rubbish I regularly read on here posted by 'fans' and 2 key decisions that fans have influenced. Firstly, the decision to stop Glenn Hoddle replacing Gordon Strachan as manager and secondly, the campaign that resulted in the current board that have done nothing except take us to the brink of Div 1 and financial meltdown!
[bold]bold[/bold] I think that it would be a very good idea to have a trust member on the Saint's Board. However it should be made clear that the member selected, say by a committee, is a person that would do a good job and report back to the Trust after each board meeting.[bold]bold[/bold]
I think that it would be a very good idea to have a trust member on the Saint's Board. However it should be made clear that the member selected, say by a committee, is a person that would do a good job and report back to the Trust after each board meeting.
[quote][bold]Derek Boulter[/bold] wrote:
[bold]bold[/bold] I think that it would be a very good idea to have a trust member on the Saint's Board. However it should be made clear that the member selected, say by a committee, is a person that would do a good job and report back to the Trust after each board meeting.[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] Yeah, very funny mate. We don't need any more trolls on here thank you very much.
Derek Boulter wrote:
I think that it would be a very good idea to have a trust member on the Saint's Board. However it should be made clear that the member selected, say by a committee, is a person that would do a good job and report back to the Trust after each board meeting.
Yeah, very funny mate. We don't need any more trolls on here thank you very much.
Utterly pointless article...
I cant stand this egotistical idiot.
I cant give any more concern or time to matters of our boardroom.
I wish that the club, the echo, the 'official supporters club' would all leave these topics out of the press now until Mr Abramovich's long lost brother comes to England and decides he likes football and has a desire to fund Nigel Pearson to the tue of £200m!...
Anyway, I am now off to watch the piglets lift off!
COYR!
Utterly pointless article...
I cant stand this egotistical idiot.
I cant give any more concern or time to matters of our boardroom.
I wish that the club, the echo, the 'official supporters club' would all leave these topics out of the press now until Mr Abramovich's long lost brother comes to England and decides he likes football and has a desire to fund Nigel Pearson to the tue of £200m!...
Anyway, I am now off to watch the piglets lift off!
Posted by: Former Northam Ranter, RINGWOOD on 5:24pm Mon 14 Apr 08
I am a Director of several companies. There are serious corporate obligations and responsibilities in being a company director and it is not something to be entered into lightly.A new board would wish to see what added value a new director could contribute.Being a channel of communication is not sufficient-- there are better ways of achieving communication and consultation with stakeholders. By all means ask the new board for a 'Fans' Director but do not for one minute think that it is an easy ride.Further they will need to a person who is adequately qualified for that role,not some one who's only contribution would be ranting,dogma or unconstructive comment. From what I have seen posted on this site there has been some people with these qualities but sadly there has not been much intellectual thinking or common sense coming from Trust Members.
I am a Director of several companies. There are serious corporate obligations and responsibilities in being a company director and it is not something to be entered into lightly.A new board would wish to see what added value a new director could contribute.Being a channel of communication is not sufficient-- there are better ways of achieving communication and consultation with stakeholders. By all means ask the new board for a 'Fans' Director but do not for one minute think that it is an easy ride.Further they will need to a person who is adequately qualified for that role,not some one who's only contribution would be ranting,dogma or unconstructive comment. From what I have seen posted on this site there has been some people with these qualities but sadly there has not been much intellectual thinking or common sense coming from Trust Members.
Posted by: The grim reaper on 5:38pm Mon 14 Apr 08
Whats the point...when wilde and lowe retake control...which will happen..then that self obsessed rugby lover won't listen to the fans any way let alone one on the board!!
Whats the point...when wilde and lowe retake control...which will happen..then that self obsessed rugby lover won't listen to the fans any way let alone one on the board!!
Posted by: Fan first, Shareholder second, New Forest on 5:43pm Mon 14 Apr 08
In common with the majority of posters here, I will not support The Saints Trust or SISA in their ambitions. Messrs Illingsworth and Chorley along with their acolytes and camp followers represent the lunatic fringe,(yes, you Perry!) themselves and no-one else. They will not be entertained by the new Board,particularly if that consists of Lowe, Cowen and Wilde. These individuals have no credibility and should not be given a platform to air their invidious views.
In common with the majority of posters here, I will not support The Saints Trust or SISA in their ambitions. Messrs Illingsworth and Chorley along with their acolytes and camp followers represent the lunatic fringe,(yes, you Perry!) themselves and no-one else. They will not be entertained by the new Board,particularly if that consists of Lowe, Cowen and Wilde. These individuals have no credibility and should not be given a platform to air their invidious views.
The only way to put a fan on the board is the way Charlton did it. Have an election where season ticket holders can stand and are the only ones to vote. They are the people that keep the club going and the ones who deserve to choose.
The only way to put a fan on the board is the way Charlton did it. Have an election where season ticket holders can stand and are the only ones to vote. They are the people that keep the club going and the ones who deserve to choose.
Posted by: SaintBobby, London on 6:47pm Mon 14 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Plumstead[/bold] wrote:
The only way to put a fan on the board is the way Charlton did it. Have an election where season ticket holders can stand and are the only ones to vote. They are the people that keep the club going and the ones who deserve to choose.[/quote] Nail on the head.
If there is to be a fan on the board (and I'm not convinved it's much more than a gimmick), the person should be elected by the entire season ticket base (possibly give members the vote as well). This would be far more likely to result in a qualified, mainstream, genuinely representative fan being elected.
I'm very sceptical about groups such as SISA and the Saints Trust. Their membership is - I believe - tiny and they are tend to reflect only one starnd of very hardcore, often politicised, fan opinion. And there isn't much point in trying to change these organisations from the inside. They are best ignored.
Plumstead wrote:
The only way to put a fan on the board is the way Charlton did it. Have an election where season ticket holders can stand and are the only ones to vote. They are the people that keep the club going and the ones who deserve to choose.
Nail on the head.
If there is to be a fan on the board (and I'm not convinved it's much more than a gimmick), the person should be elected by the entire season ticket base (possibly give members the vote as well). This would be far more likely to result in a qualified, mainstream, genuinely representative fan being elected.
I'm very sceptical about groups such as SISA and the Saints Trust. Their membership is - I believe - tiny and they are tend to reflect only one starnd of very hardcore, often politicised, fan opinion. And there isn't much point in trying to change these organisations from the inside. They are best ignored.
[bold]I'm very sceptical about groups such as SISA and the Saints Trust. Their membership is - I believe - tiny and they are tend to reflect only one starnd of very hardcore, often politicised, fan opinion.[/bold]
Dead right Bob, SISA has 1 or 2 people (just Richard Chorley and anybody currently talking to him really) and The Saints Trust only made any headway during the "Lowe out" campaign, after that people lost interest.
I'm very sceptical about groups such as SISA and the Saints Trust. Their membership is - I believe - tiny and they are tend to reflect only one starnd of very hardcore, often politicised, fan opinion.
Dead right Bob, SISA has 1 or 2 people (just Richard Chorley and anybody currently talking to him really) and The Saints Trust only made any headway during the "Lowe out" campaign, after that people lost interest.
[quote][bold]Realist[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]hugh[/bold] wrote: To all those people whinging about Nick Illingsworth and the Saints Trust, why don't you join the Trust and change things if they are so dreadful and don't represent the views of the majority? It would be easy as apparently there are so few members a couple of dozen could do it. Oh no, of course it is much easier to anonymously complain on an internet message board...... [/quote] But that is just it, [bold]NOBODY[/bold] will ever represent the views of every fan so why bother trying. People like Nick Illingsworth and John P**pey Westwood are fanatical to the extreme and probably still get tucked up each night dreaming of scoring the winning goal for their clubs. They know in reality this will never happen but this is the nearest they will ever get. When they wake up and realise they are actually just paying customers like the rest of us perhaps we can all move on.[/quote] The big difference between John PFC Westwood and Nick Illingsworth is that Westwood has never sought for a position at Portsmouth FC other than as a supporter.
To the best of my knowledge, he has never sought to influence the the board of Portmouth FC, other than for the removal of an incompetent chairman, and in that campaign, he was a follower not a leader.
I cannot recall him seeking press time, but is often approached by the press and media for his opinion.
He has not, and never has had, a column in the local newspaper!
Quite a difference between him and publicity SEEKING Nick!
Realist wrote:
hugh wrote: To all those people whinging about Nick Illingsworth and the Saints Trust, why don't you join the Trust and change things if they are so dreadful and don't represent the views of the majority? It would be easy as apparently there are so few members a couple of dozen could do it. Oh no, of course it is much easier to anonymously complain on an internet message board......
But that is just it, NOBODY will ever represent the views of every fan so why bother trying. People like Nick Illingsworth and John P**pey Westwood are fanatical to the extreme and probably still get tucked up each night dreaming of scoring the winning goal for their clubs. They know in reality this will never happen but this is the nearest they will ever get. When they wake up and realise they are actually just paying customers like the rest of us perhaps we can all move on.
The big difference between John PFC Westwood and Nick Illingsworth is that Westwood has never sought for a position at Portsmouth FC other than as a supporter.
To the best of my knowledge, he has never sought to influence the the board of Portmouth FC, other than for the removal of an incompetent chairman, and in that campaign, he was a follower not a leader.
I cannot recall him seeking press time, but is often approached by the press and media for his opinion.
He has not, and never has had, a column in the local newspaper!
Quite a difference between him and publicity SEEKING Nick!
Posted by: pugwash, southampton on 10:26pm Mon 14 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Gazza[/bold] wrote:
I would say a resounding 'No' based on the rubbish I regularly read on here posted by 'fans' and 2 key decisions that fans have influenced. Firstly, the decision to stop Glenn Hoddle replacing Gordon Strachan as manager and secondly, the campaign that resulted in the current board that have done nothing except take us to the brink of Div 1 and financial meltdown! [/quote] SPOT ON GAZZA,WHAT DO THESE 'GROUP LEADERS' KNOW ABOUT RUNNING A FOOTBALL CLUB.ABOUT THE ONLY THING THEY COULD ORGANISE IS A BRAWL IN A TELEPHONE BOX.
Gazza wrote:
I would say a resounding 'No' based on the rubbish I regularly read on here posted by 'fans' and 2 key decisions that fans have influenced. Firstly, the decision to stop Glenn Hoddle replacing Gordon Strachan as manager and secondly, the campaign that resulted in the current board that have done nothing except take us to the brink of Div 1 and financial meltdown!
SPOT ON GAZZA,WHAT DO THESE 'GROUP LEADERS' KNOW ABOUT RUNNING A FOOTBALL CLUB.ABOUT THE ONLY THING THEY COULD ORGANISE IS A BRAWL IN A TELEPHONE BOX.
In a word, "No". And especially not if it's Mr Illingsworth. He hasn't got the necessary qualifications or experience. Back in your box, son. You don't represent me.
In a word, "No". And especially not if it's Mr Illingsworth. He hasn't got the necessary qualifications or experience. Back in your box, son. You don't represent me.
[quote][bold]Filthy Custard[/bold] wrote:
Quite right! But then what on earth did Rupert Lowe know? Or Leon Crouch? Erm, nothing. What do you think qualifies someone to run a football club?[/quote] Crouch and Lowe at least have previous business experience.
I'd hazard a guess that if you are looking election to the board of a multi-million pound company, you're going to need something more than a keen interest...
Filthy Custard wrote:
Quite right! But then what on earth did Rupert Lowe know? Or Leon Crouch? Erm, nothing. What do you think qualifies someone to run a football club?
Crouch and Lowe at least have previous business experience.
I'd hazard a guess that if you are looking election to the board of a multi-million pound company, you're going to need something more than a keen interest...
Posted by: dave, southampton on 3:50pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Realist[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]hugh[/bold] wrote: To all those people whinging about Nick Illingsworth and the Saints Trust, why don\'t you join the Trust and change things if they are so dreadful and don\'t represent the views of the majority? It would be easy as apparently there are so few members a couple of dozen could do it. Oh no, of course it is much easier to anonymously complain on an internet message board...... [/quote] But that is just it, [bold]NOBODY[/bold] will ever represent the views of every fan so why bother trying. People like Nick Illingsworth and John P**pey Westwood are fanatical to the extreme and probably still get tucked up each night dreaming of scoring the winning goal for their clubs. They know in reality this will never happen but this is the nearest they will ever get. When they wake up and realise they are actually just paying customers like the rest of us perhaps we can all move on.[/quote] The big difference between John PFC Westwood and Nick Illingsworth is that Westwood has never sought for a position at Portsmouth FC other than as a supporter. To the best of my knowledge, he has never sought to influence the the board of Portmouth FC, other than for the removal of an incompetent chairman, and in that campaign, he was a follower not a leader. I cannot recall him seeking press time, but is often approached by the press and media for his opinion. He has not, and never has had, a column in the local newspaper! Quite a difference between him and publicity SEEKING Nick! [/quote] the difference between nick and john westwood is one isn't a bad bloke and has his heart in the right place.
The other is an absolute cretin (yes i am talking about the drunken retard westwood that even skates are ashamed of).
if you were the editor of a local paper would you give a column to the rantings of westwood?
you can never be a spokesman for the whole of a fanbase with many differing views - but if there was a fan on the board who could speak up for even a sizeable minority then surely it can be no bad thing.
sailor sam wrote:
Realist wrote:
hugh wrote: To all those people whinging about Nick Illingsworth and the Saints Trust, why don\'t you join the Trust and change things if they are so dreadful and don\'t represent the views of the majority? It would be easy as apparently there are so few members a couple of dozen could do it. Oh no, of course it is much easier to anonymously complain on an internet message board......
But that is just it, NOBODY will ever represent the views of every fan so why bother trying. People like Nick Illingsworth and John P**pey Westwood are fanatical to the extreme and probably still get tucked up each night dreaming of scoring the winning goal for their clubs. They know in reality this will never happen but this is the nearest they will ever get. When they wake up and realise they are actually just paying customers like the rest of us perhaps we can all move on.
The big difference between John PFC Westwood and Nick Illingsworth is that Westwood has never sought for a position at Portsmouth FC other than as a supporter. To the best of my knowledge, he has never sought to influence the the board of Portmouth FC, other than for the removal of an incompetent chairman, and in that campaign, he was a follower not a leader. I cannot recall him seeking press time, but is often approached by the press and media for his opinion. He has not, and never has had, a column in the local newspaper! Quite a difference between him and publicity SEEKING Nick!
the difference between nick and john westwood is one isn't a bad bloke and has his heart in the right place.
The other is an absolute cretin (yes i am talking about the drunken retard westwood that even skates are ashamed of).
if you were the editor of a local paper would you give a column to the rantings of westwood?
you can never be a spokesman for the whole of a fanbase with many differing views - but if there was a fan on the board who could speak up for even a sizeable minority then surely it can be no bad thing.
Posted by: Bi Al, Winchester on 5:06pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
One word 'NO'[/quote] Actually, three words "NO" "NO" "NO". Saints Trust my ar**. These guys are just another support group and should go away!!
Anon wrote:
One word 'NO'
Actually, three words "NO" "NO" "NO". Saints Trust my ar**. These guys are just another support group and should go away!!
Posted by: Bi Al, Winchester on 5:06pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
One word 'NO'[/quote] Actually, three words "NO" "NO" "NO". Saints Trust my ar**. These guys are just another support group and should go away!!
Anon wrote:
One word 'NO'
Actually, three words "NO" "NO" "NO". Saints Trust my ar**. These guys are just another support group and should go away!!
[quote][bold]crew 657[/bold] wrote:
scum have a fans group...i didnt know they had any fans!!!! I suggest that it would be a bad move as scummers havnt the intelligence to run a business[/quote] No fans? Saints? You're having a laugh my son, we are averaging more per game than pimply. Even though we are struggling at the wrong end of the 2nd division table we are still the biggest club on the south coast, if pimply were a big club they'd have a big ground not a toilet.
crew 657 wrote:
scum have a fans group...i didnt know they had any fans!!!! I suggest that it would be a bad move as scummers havnt the intelligence to run a business
No fans? Saints? You're having a laugh my son, we are averaging more per game than pimply. Even though we are struggling at the wrong end of the 2nd division table we are still the biggest club on the south coast, if pimply were a big club they'd have a big ground not a toilet.
Posted by: crew 657, new forest on 7:17pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Portswood Pete[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]crew 657[/bold] wrote:
scum have a fans group...i didnt know they had any fans!!!! I suggest that it would be a bad move as scummers havnt the intelligence to run a business[/quote] No fans? Saints? You're having a laugh my son, we are averaging more per game than pimply. Even though we are struggling at the wrong end of the 2nd division table we are still the biggest club on the south coast, if pimply were a big club they'd have a big ground not a toilet.[/quote] ah someone from the portswood slums...shut it scummer
Portswood Pete wrote:
crew 657 wrote:
scum have a fans group...i didnt know they had any fans!!!! I suggest that it would be a bad move as scummers havnt the intelligence to run a business
No fans? Saints? You're having a laugh my son, we are averaging more per game than pimply. Even though we are struggling at the wrong end of the 2nd division table we are still the biggest club on the south coast, if pimply were a big club they'd have a big ground not a toilet.
ah someone from the portswood slums...shut it scummer
Posted by: crew 657 slapping scum, new forest on 10:23pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Portswood Pete[/bold] wrote:
[bold]shut it scummer[/bold]
Truth hurt does it?[/quote] what thats portswood is a slum ?
yes it is and full of scum sub human lifeforms
Posted by: Sotonian, Southampton on 11:13pm Tue 15 Apr 08
I read all these comments with interest and the first thing that struck me is that all these people who are standing up and saying the "saints trust dont represent me" are the root cause of why we are in the problems we find ourselvesin.
Its a typical southampton attitude, anyone who tries to stand up and do something is shouted down and ridiculed.
and the people doing the ridiculing are those that are not prepared to do anything about it, hey lets make a supporter director come from the season ticket holders and voted for by the season ticket holders, yes lets do that thats an easy option and everyone wants that dont they god help them if they have to get out from their keyboards.
But the thing that struck me most was the jealousy that came out, the hatred for someone who is trying to do something, I dont know Nick Illingsworth and i doubt if any of those making the comments do, so how can they assasinate his character, did anyone see the parralels with rupert lowe or jim hone, what has illingsworth done wrong apart from suggest something for the good of all concerned.
Luckily enough as the idiots posting on here have amply illustrated their views arent those of the majority of Saints fans only those of a dozen or so morons on here as im sure you will be the first to admit you dont speak for them do you
I read all these comments with interest and the first thing that struck me is that all these people who are standing up and saying the "saints trust dont represent me" are the root cause of why we are in the problems we find ourselvesin.
Its a typical southampton attitude, anyone who tries to stand up and do something is shouted down and ridiculed.
and the people doing the ridiculing are those that are not prepared to do anything about it, hey lets make a supporter director come from the season ticket holders and voted for by the season ticket holders, yes lets do that thats an easy option and everyone wants that dont they god help them if they have to get out from their keyboards.
But the thing that struck me most was the jealousy that came out, the hatred for someone who is trying to do something, I dont know Nick Illingsworth and i doubt if any of those making the comments do, so how can they assasinate his character, did anyone see the parralels with rupert lowe or jim hone, what has illingsworth done wrong apart from suggest something for the good of all concerned.
Luckily enough as the idiots posting on here have amply illustrated their views arent those of the majority of Saints fans only those of a dozen or so morons on here as im sure you will be the first to admit you dont speak for them do you
[quote][bold]Plumstead[/bold] wrote:
The only way to put a fan on the board is the way Charlton did it. Have an election where season ticket holders can stand and are the only ones to vote. They are the people that keep the club going and the ones who deserve to choose.[/quote] I think you will find that as at every club that has had a supporter on the board, that the supporter came from a fans group, not from a general season ticket holder base
Plumstead wrote:
The only way to put a fan on the board is the way Charlton did it. Have an election where season ticket holders can stand and are the only ones to vote. They are the people that keep the club going and the ones who deserve to choose.
I think you will find that as at every club that has had a supporter on the board, that the supporter came from a fans group, not from a general season ticket holder base
Posted by: Sotonian, Southampton on 11:24pm Tue 15 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Bi Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote: One word 'NO'[/quote] Actually, three words "NO" "NO" "NO". Saints Trust my ar**. These guys are just another support group and should go away!![/quote] Isnt it fact that at virtually every club they have supporters groups and they work together to help the supporters and the club itself, everywhere that is except here, where they have people like Bi AL who think that things are changed by individuals on message boards.
Yeah thats right Al change the world under a pseudonym from your keyboard and ignore democracy, if the saints trust only had three members they would still have more of a democratic right to represent Saints supporters than any individual on here
Bi Al wrote:
Anon wrote: One word 'NO'
Actually, three words "NO" "NO" "NO". Saints Trust my ar**. These guys are just another support group and should go away!!
Isnt it fact that at virtually every club they have supporters groups and they work together to help the supporters and the club itself, everywhere that is except here, where they have people like Bi AL who think that things are changed by individuals on message boards.
Yeah thats right Al change the world under a pseudonym from your keyboard and ignore democracy, if the saints trust only had three members they would still have more of a democratic right to represent Saints supporters than any individual on here
[quote][bold]Sotonian[/bold] wrote:
I read all these comments with interest and the first thing that struck me is that all these people who are standing up and saying the "saints trust dont represent me" are the root cause of why we are in the problems we find ourselvesin. Its a typical southampton attitude, anyone who tries to stand up and do something is shouted down and ridiculed. and the people doing the ridiculing are those that are not prepared to do anything about it, hey lets make a supporter director come from the season ticket holders and voted for by the season ticket holders, yes lets do that thats an easy option and everyone wants that dont they god help them if they have to get out from their keyboards. But the thing that struck me most was the jealousy that came out, the hatred for someone who is trying to do something, I dont know Nick Illingsworth and i doubt if any of those making the comments do, so how can they assasinate his character, did anyone see the parralels with rupert lowe or jim hone, what has illingsworth done wrong apart from suggest something for the good of all concerned. Luckily enough as the idiots posting on here have amply illustrated their views arent those of the majority of Saints fans only those of a dozen or so morons on here as im sure you will be the first to admit you dont speak for them do you [/quote] What total bull!
People like Nick and Richard Chorley, are a embarrassment to Saints fans!!!
Personally they make me cringe when they pipe up in the media limelght! Moreover I do not have to know them, because if you ( if you are not Nick himself) only have to hear the embarrasing crap that comes out of their mouths pretending to speak on Saints fans behalf. THEY DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME AND I AM SURE MEDIA LIKE SKY PUT THEM ON FOR A LAUGH AT OUR EXPENSE!
Lastly if your going to make a point, please have point to make! ( Nick )
Sotonian wrote:
I read all these comments with interest and the first thing that struck me is that all these people who are standing up and saying the "saints trust dont represent me" are the root cause of why we are in the problems we find ourselvesin. Its a typical southampton attitude, anyone who tries to stand up and do something is shouted down and ridiculed. and the people doing the ridiculing are those that are not prepared to do anything about it, hey lets make a supporter director come from the season ticket holders and voted for by the season ticket holders, yes lets do that thats an easy option and everyone wants that dont they god help them if they have to get out from their keyboards. But the thing that struck me most was the jealousy that came out, the hatred for someone who is trying to do something, I dont know Nick Illingsworth and i doubt if any of those making the comments do, so how can they assasinate his character, did anyone see the parralels with rupert lowe or jim hone, what has illingsworth done wrong apart from suggest something for the good of all concerned. Luckily enough as the idiots posting on here have amply illustrated their views arent those of the majority of Saints fans only those of a dozen or so morons on here as im sure you will be the first to admit you dont speak for them do you
What total bull!
People like Nick and Richard Chorley, are a embarrassment to Saints fans!!!
Personally they make me cringe when they pipe up in the media limelght! Moreover I do not have to know them, because if you ( if you are not Nick himself) only have to hear the embarrasing crap that comes out of their mouths pretending to speak on Saints fans behalf. THEY DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME AND I AM SURE MEDIA LIKE SKY PUT THEM ON FOR A LAUGH AT OUR EXPENSE!
Lastly if your going to make a point, please have point to make! ( Nick )
[quote][bold]crew 657 slapping scum[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Portswood Pete[/bold] wrote: [bold]shut it scummer[/bold] Truth hurt does it?[/quote] what thats portswood is a slum ? yes it is and full of scum sub human lifeforms[/quote] I'm afraid to say it's true Pete, Portswood has indeed got scum sub human lifeforms in, I know 4 people in Portswood who come from Portsmouth, sorry.
crew 657 slapping scum wrote:
Portswood Pete wrote: shut it scummer Truth hurt does it?
what thats portswood is a slum ? yes it is and full of scum sub human lifeforms
I'm afraid to say it's true Pete, Portswood has indeed got scum sub human lifeforms in, I know 4 people in Portswood who come from Portsmouth, sorry.
They shouldn't have just one seat on the board, they should have all of them.
There's a sea change in football, which is gradually sweeping aside these wealthy owners of football entertainment rip-off companies, replacing them with not-for-profit supporter ownership.
As an outside observer, I predict your club will go nowhere far, and you'll pay through the nose for the privelige of being its customers.
The people on here don't seem very forward thinking and I'm sure you'll get the success you deserve (none, like).
They shouldn't have just one seat on the board, they should have all of them.
There's a sea change in football, which is gradually sweeping aside these wealthy owners of football entertainment rip-off companies, replacing them with not-for-profit supporter ownership.
As an outside observer, I predict your club will go nowhere far, and you'll pay through the nose for the privelige of being its customers.
The people on here don't seem very forward thinking and I'm sure you'll get the success you deserve (none, like).
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